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Ted Cruz Not Eligible To Be POTUS, According to Most Plausible Interpretation of Constitution
Hot Air ^ | 2/10/16

Posted on 02/10/2016 1:55:32 PM PST by drewh

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To: Lower55

Keep dreaming.....

You are only reading part of it and stopping right there.

You have to read the entire part and not only half of it and stopping. Haha!

Intentionally ignoring the military and diplomatic part hoping it will just go away will not work.

Just admit it you know I’m right. I know you do deep down inside.

It’s just like you keep thinking that the DNC along with GOPe will not shop a federal judge to disqualify Cruz. Even though they said they would. You Cruzbots need to think more than 1 step ahead.


221 posted on 02/10/2016 5:18:44 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yawn....neither Dem nor Repub Party leaders cared about electing an Ethiopian with a forged birth certificate...so why start caring now? The people dumping on Cruz have been fine with Obama as even less eligible. Hypocrites!


222 posted on 02/10/2016 5:19:09 PM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: AmericanVictory

You are still missing the point of Article 1 Section 8. There is NO LIMIT ON THIS AUTHORITY other than Article 4 Section 2 and the 14th Amendment which was pass long after the founders wrote the Constitution.

If you believe other wise, then show via the Constitution where this authority is limited.


223 posted on 02/10/2016 5:21:46 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: Enlightened1

“You have to read the entire part “

I read the requirements in the Constitution. Anything after that, is moot.


224 posted on 02/10/2016 5:24:55 PM PST by Lower55
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To: Lower55

So you agree that it would be up to the Supreme Court to decide the question of the eligibility of Senator Cruz to be President but that, unless it were a unanimous opinion, it would be “political.” How does that make Senator Cruz a good choice for the Republican nomination? From what you say if a split decision found him not eligible it would be “political” but he would still have to obey it.


225 posted on 02/10/2016 5:25:23 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Lower55

No it’s the law, and the law says his mother had to be in the U.S Military or a Diplomat in order for Cruz to be a Citizen.

She was neither. You can pretend all you want, but that’s not what the law reads or the facts. Dream on....


226 posted on 02/10/2016 5:30:47 PM PST by Enlightened1
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227 posted on 02/10/2016 5:31:34 PM PST by bushpilot2
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To: taxcontrol
Article II, Section 8 enumerates the specific powers entrusted to Congress. They include, and I quote, the power to: "...to establish an uniform rule of ..."

Neither that clause nor the 14th Amendment have anything to do with the Article II presidential eligibility phrasing. You are exhibiting complete inexperience with and knowledge of these matters.

228 posted on 02/10/2016 5:33:13 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: taxcontrol
Article II, Section 8 enumerates the specific powers entrusted to Congress. They include, and I quote, the power to: "...to establish an uniform rule of naturalization..."

Neither that clause nor the 14th Amendment have anything to do with the Article II presidential eligibility phrasing. "[N]aturalization" in Article I is a process completely unconnected with the "natural born citizen" presidential eligibility clause in Article II. You are exhibiting complete inexperience with and a lack of knowledge of these matters.

229 posted on 02/10/2016 5:36:36 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: taxcontrol
-- There is NO LIMIT ON THIS AUTHORITY other than Article 4 Section 2 and the 14th Amendment --

Congress' power to naturalize is unlimited, period.

The naturalization power is referred to in the second part of the first sentence of the 14th amendment, but the power to naturalize is not conferred there.

Art IV, Sec. 2 (citizen of a state) is not about naturalization - those persons are citizens without being naturalized.

The first part of the first sentence of the 14th amendment recites, in part, "born in the US ... and subject to the jurisdiction." Those persons are not naturalized either.

230 posted on 02/10/2016 5:36:44 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: AmericanVictory

“So you agree that it would be up to the Supreme Court to decide the question of the eligibility of Senator Cruz to be President”

No, I assume the Supreme Court should attempt to define a Natural Born Citizen. Then the question wouldn’t be revisited with every foreign candidate that comes along. But, if the decision is not 9-0, then it becomes a political decision and the question will still not be settled.


231 posted on 02/10/2016 5:40:35 PM PST by Lower55
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To: samtheman
You're correct about not being interested in "nominating sure losers." Dole, McCain, Romney....."

You might be interested in learning that all three of these "sure losers," to a man, all loathe and dislike Cruz, claiming he's the "sure loser! "

Very interesting indeed, three GOP former primary "winners" who were themselves,"sure losers," warn us away from Cruz.

Not only that, but another "sure loser," former Democrat President Jimmy Carter, also warns us against Cruz!

232 posted on 02/10/2016 5:42:31 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: AmericanVictory
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233 posted on 02/10/2016 5:42:53 PM PST by bushpilot2
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To: Enlightened1

“She was neither. You can pretend all you want”

You must be answering someone else. I know what a Natural Born Citizen is, and Cruz and Rubio are not one of them.


234 posted on 02/10/2016 5:47:15 PM PST by Lower55
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To: bushpilot2

Yes, of course, such are citizens, but not “natural born citizens” within the intendment of the Article II eligibility phrasing. The 1802 act followed on from the 1795 act in this matter.


235 posted on 02/10/2016 5:47:19 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: drewh

Bullshit. By your “logic” children born to US military stationed overseas are not “natural born citizens.”


236 posted on 02/10/2016 5:48:14 PM PST by LouD
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To: drewh

Oh really...Hot Air thinks it and it alones knows what it “most plausible”??

Arrogant, ain’t they?


237 posted on 02/10/2016 5:49:54 PM PST by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: SubMareener

Even if Cruz was born in Mars and raised in deep space, he would STILL be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States! The only way to prove he is not a Natural Born citizen is to prove that his mother was not born in the US.

Ironically, Trump’s mother was not born in the US. It is okay, however, Trump is a NBC because (among other things), his pa was born in the US.


238 posted on 02/10/2016 5:55:36 PM PST by sagar (3 way race; cranky populist - Trump/Sanders, establishment - Hillary/Kaysick, conservative - Cruz!)
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To: for-q-clinton

That’s what I believe too.


239 posted on 02/10/2016 5:55:52 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: bushpilot2

Applies to those only whose parents were citizens....

How can Cruz claim his mother...and the father....doesn’t matter.


240 posted on 02/10/2016 6:00:56 PM PST by bushpilot2
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