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Ted Cruz Not Eligible To Be POTUS, According to Most Plausible Interpretation of Constitution
Hot Air ^ | 2/10/16

Posted on 02/10/2016 1:55:32 PM PST by drewh

With Ted Cruz the victor of the first contest of the GOP nominating calendar, we can no longer avoid the question mischievously posed by Donald Trump: Is Cruz ineligible to be president? Cruz was born in Canada to an American mother and a Cuban father. The Constitution says that only a “natural born citizen” can be president. Is Cruz a natural born citizen? (You may recall that before he attacked Cruz on this front, Trump spent months flogging a ludicrous version of this critique against President Obama, who was actually born in the United States, unlike Cruz.)

The words natural born citizen, and their original meaning at the time that this constitutional clause was crafted, go a long way to answering this question. In founding-era America, like today, a person could be a citizen by virtue of birth on American territory; a citizen by virtue of a statute that granted citizenship to him at birth; a “naturalized” citizen, meaning one who entered the country as an alien but later obtained citizenship via a process determined by law; and a foreigner.

A natural born citizen cannot be a foreigner. Foreigners are not citizens. A natural born citizen cannot be a person who was naturalized. Those people are not born citizens; they’re born aliens. Most important for the purposes of the Cruz question, a natural born citizen cannot be someone whose birth entitled him to citizenship because of a statute—in this case a statute that confers citizenship on a person born abroad to an American parent. In the 18th century, as now, the word natural meant “in the regular course of things.” Then, as now, almost all Americans obtained citizenship by birth in this country, not by birth to Americans abroad. The natural way to obtain citizenship, then, was (and is) by being born in this country. Because Cruz was not “natural born”—not born in the United States—he is ineligible for the presidency, under the most plausible interpretation of the Constitution.


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: birther; birtherama; canadian; cruz; cruznbc; ericposner; ineligible; lies; tinfoilhat
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To: truth_seeker

Even “at the embassy itself” doesn’t work!


181 posted on 02/10/2016 4:23:49 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Jim Noble
Yes subject to the provision that the father had resided at some point in time in the US. Here is the text to prove it quoting DIRECTLY from the act:

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof on application to any common law Court of record in any one of the States wherein he shall have resided for the term of one year at least, and making proof to the satisfaction of such Court that he is a person of good character, and taking the oath or affirmation prescribed by law to support the Constitution of the United States, which Oath or Affirmation such Court shall administer, and the Clerk of such Court shall record such Application, and the proceedings thereon; and thereupon such person shall be considered as a Citizen of the United States. And the children of such person so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under the age of twenty one years at the time of such naturalization, shall also be considered as citizens of the United States. And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, that no person heretofore proscribed by any States, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an Act of the Legislature of the State in which such person was proscribed.

I would also point out that Sen Cruz's father DID reside within the United States prior to Sen Cruz's birth.

182 posted on 02/10/2016 4:24:46 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: QuinqueViae
Ahhh!... It's been done guy!

Trump won first


183 posted on 02/10/2016 4:25:14 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: for-q-clinton

The ruling affects much more than a presidential race. This legal question has deep historical roots, and has play in deportation cases.


184 posted on 02/10/2016 4:25:39 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: John S Mosby

Was Chester A. Arthur’s eligibility to be President ever challenged in court by anyone with standing to bring the challenge and, if it was, what was the outcome and what is the cite to the decision or decisions? Was there a Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton type around at the time to challenge his eligibility, or for that matter, a state ballot access challenger with standing by the laws of one of the states who filed a complaint or objection?


185 posted on 02/10/2016 4:26:23 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Dead Corpse

“Ergo, Ted is a US Citizen”

But, not a “natural born citizen”.


186 posted on 02/10/2016 4:26:33 PM PST by Lower55
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To: AmericanVictory

Yes, the naturalization act of 1790 was replaced by 1795, who also was exercising their enumerated constitutional authority. And that act was repealed and replace and so on and so forth until we get to the current law as expressed in Title 8 section 1401 - Citizens at birth.


187 posted on 02/10/2016 4:27:49 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: Enlightened1
Nope his mom was not in the military or a diplomat.

But she was a U.S. citizen who had met the residency requirements the law required. The law does not say that she must be military or diplomat.

188 posted on 02/10/2016 4:28:32 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: deport

“Or is Rubio a natural born citizen regardless of parentage citizenship because he
was born on US soil?”

Defines “Anchor baby to the T”. Not a “natural born citizen”.


189 posted on 02/10/2016 4:31:06 PM PST by Lower55
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To: Enlightened1

Missed this part did you?

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

It’s also why Ted is a Citizen from birth where Obama isn’t. Ted’s Mom was old enough to meet the residency requirement where Barrack’s Mother literally wasn’t old enough...


190 posted on 02/10/2016 4:33:50 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: drewh
...President Obama, who was actually born in the United States, unlike Cruz.

There is no proof of this.

191 posted on 02/10/2016 4:36:07 PM PST by depressed in 06 (If you like your part-time job, you can keep your part-time job. Vote Bolshecrat.)
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To: Lower55

Yes. He is.

Not “native” born, but then that isn’t what the law stipulates. His Mother meets the residency requirements which is why Ted never needed to be Naturalized.

Further, Ted spent more time growing up in Texas than either McCain or Obama did up to Ted’s current age...

My Dad was born in Munich to Ukrainian immigrants. He is inelligible to run. He was naturailized beofre I was born and married to a US Citizen. If i had been born to them while travelling abroad, I would still be elligible to run for POTUS. I wasn’t though... St. Mary’s in Minneapolis.


192 posted on 02/10/2016 4:37:59 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse

Nope Teds mom was not in the military or a diplomat. Sorry...


193 posted on 02/10/2016 4:38:17 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Only says that military or diplomatic service count towards residency...

Wrong again.


194 posted on 02/10/2016 4:40:57 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: drewh
Is Cruz a natural born citizen?

He's a natural-born Cubanadian.

195 posted on 02/10/2016 4:41:23 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: DoodleDawg

Yes but you have to be with either in the military or a diplomat too.

If it only required the citizenship then it would end with a period. It would not have the additional lines. Sorry....


196 posted on 02/10/2016 4:41:27 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: AmericanVictory

No court challenge mounted, or would have succeeded if it had. The Harvard Law Review should cover the current status— since 1790, and it would have covered Arthur, also.


197 posted on 02/10/2016 4:43:26 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: drewh

Says a CHICAGO LAW PROFESSOR.

give it a rest.

You’re too obsessed.


198 posted on 02/10/2016 4:44:08 PM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Strange way of going about it— questioning his legal status to be VP who would become President... if.


199 posted on 02/10/2016 4:44:48 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: taxcontrol

You seem to be going out of your way to avoid the central point. Congress has no authority to define the intent of the Framers in choosing language in the Constitution. Further, after the enactment of the 1795 act because of the constitutional questions raised by the 1790 act, Congress never again used the precise Article II presidential eligibility phrase: “natural born citizen.”


200 posted on 02/10/2016 4:46:01 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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