Posted on 02/10/2016 1:30:15 PM PST by SeekAndFind
This is not one of those stupid, contrarian takes where I'm saying something just for shock value just to get clicks. Make no mistakes – Hillary Clinton may have lost by about 20 points last night, but she emerged from New Hampshire as the biggest winner of the night, and it was not close.
Let's make one thing clear: Hillary Clinton does not give a crap about Bernie Sanders, or about losing this election tonight. Bernie Sanders wins one group of voters in the Democrat party: white liberals. Moving forward through Super Tuesday, those voters will be extremely hard to find. Clinton is going to beat Sanders by 30 points in South Carolina and probably by about as much in Nevada. Super Tuesday will feature a bunch of Southern states that Bernie Sanders is going to lose his shirt in. This was the first, and last, primary that Bernie Sanders will win (or even come close to winning).
Hillary Clinton is already looking forward to the general election, as she should. She knows good and well that she will likely lose that contest against any contestant not named Donald Trump. It's not just that Trump polls the weakest against her out of anyone in the field (although he does) – it's the more important metric (at this point of the race) of favorability.
Hillary Clinton's unfavorability rating right now is at 52%, which is absolutely unprecedented for an expected nominee of one of the two major parties. There is no chance that someone with those kinds of ratings has any chance of winning in the general, if they are not an incumbent. The one and only exception to that rule would be if the nominee in question was running against someone who's unfavorability rating of a whopping 60%, as Donald Trump is. There is absolutely no one Hillary wants to face more – including Ben Carson – than Donald Trump.
And what happened in New Hampshire was the best possible result for Donald Trump. Not only did Trump win comfortably, but Jeb Bush and John Kasich have emerged believing that they can win, even though Jeb finished basically tied with Ted Cruz in Ted Cruz's worst state. The end result of this is that Trump now faces a field of five, rather than a field of three going forward.
In a field of five, Trump can continue to basically dominate primaries going forward with his 30-35% level of support. The longer that he keeps this up, the more fence sitters will become resigned to him as an inevitable front-runner – a psychological force that has been nearly irresistible in past Republican primaries.
Tonight's results in New Hampshire were the best possible result for Donald Trump. And that's the best possible result for Hillary Clinton, for whom her loss to Bernie Sanders was completely irrelevant. And that makes her the biggest winner of the night.
No one wonder under her grandma cohort wants her.
Who is this wolf POS butt hole?
Let’s have a sports analogy here. The New York Jets just got beat by the New England Patriots by a score of 35-10. The Jets were humiliated in every phase of the game. However, the Jets play their next three at home against the winless Jacksonville Jaguars, the Detroit Lions and the St. Louis (now Los Angeles) Rams, all three of which games they should win.
So that means the Jets, despite losing, really won big last night.
Pretty laughable sports writing. Except I have seen idiots on ESPN say something like it. And then they say America is racist.
No, because she wound up with more delegates, because of the unpledged delegates (there were 8), six declared for her, and two stayed undeclared. So, she has more delegates than the Bern, despite her miserable showing.
really?!?!
never followed a primary before and it’s confusing the hell out of me.
The Democratic Party is corrupt.
It doesn’t matter if Hillary loses.
She has the superdelegates all pledged to her.
NH loss? What NH loss.
While there is some merit in the other primaries not being as friendly to Bernie Sanders as NH, it is Bernie with all the momentum and no matter where you hold the election, he is going to do very well with the young and naive under 30-crowd. In both New Hampshire AND Iowa, Bernie won over 80% of this demographic. We will soon see if this NH blowout translates to national momentum. I think it will.
Fact is, Shrillary is damaged goods and while she might still salvage the nomination with super-delegates and backroom maneuvering, those under 30 people are not going to be happy if she does and they are not going to meekly come into the fold and pull the lever for her in November.
No matter who the GOP nominates, I think that candidate will get support of the party. Not so for the Democrats. The are so bitterly divided between Shrillary and Bernie that we are likely looking at a third-party option.
When you have the deck stacked in your favour, a simple thing such as a primairy, in NH in less, is not something to worry about. If someone said the vote counting was more of a problem for her, she would definitely be concerned since she has all the voting machines rigged in her favour as well. She is a pro at rigged elections so why should she worry?????????????????
That's a really big "if." Besides "everything else" in New Hampshire is different from "everything else" in South Carolina or Tennessee.
The closer voters live to Brooklyn, the easier it is for Democrats to see Bernie as their kooky uncle -- or even as something more positive.
Get far enough from New York and a lot of Democrats may look on him as something from another planet. Fewer than in the past, but still, regionalism has to count for something.
I'd agree that spinning this as a Hillary win, though, is perverse.
I think there are still a lot of hard feelings from the black community regarding Shrillary and her treatment of Obama in 2008. Bernie would do well to tap into that. However, should she become the nominee, I think Trump will do surprisingly well in this demographic.
I think the same could apply to the general election. Trump becoming 'inevitable', and Clinton sinking under the weight of scandal and dislike.
Hillary’s go-to strategy will be buying off super-delegates and trying not to anger the Bern voters enough that they stay home in the general.
If all college is free, who decides who gets to go to Harvard?
BULLCRAP!!!
That’s true... but if that happens I’m betting the Bern’s followers might get a bit miffed..
Leon Wolfe is so obsessed with hatred for Donald Trump that he has become delusional.
>>> .... It doesn’t matter if Hillary loses. She has the superdelegates all pledged to her. ..... <<<
This is what I heard, also.
But if Sanders keep winning, yet Hillary is the nominee, boy oh boy, it will be a WARY WARY interesting convention in Philadelphia. (I think)
"If all college is free, who decides who gets to go to Harvard?"
The Government.
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