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What About Ted Cruz?
The New York Times ^ | February 9, 2016 | Thomas B. Edsall

Posted on 02/09/2016 11:29:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Despite Donald Trump's victory in New Hampshire, what is the chance that Republicans will nominate Ted Cruz and that he will go on to win the presidency?

The website ElectionBettingOdds gives Cruz a 14.5 percent chance of winning the nomination -- his victory in the Iowa caucuses and what looks like a third place showing in New Hampshire notwithstanding. It puts his chances of actually winning the presidency at 4.3 percent.

But let's say Cruz beats the odds and wins the nomination. One of the most conservative members of the Senate, Cruz would test the argument made by leaders of the hard right that Republicans have lost four of the last six presidential elections because their candidates -- George H. W. Bush of 1992, Robert Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney -- were insufficiently conservative.

For more than 50 years, Phyllis Schlafly, the right-wing icon and founder of the Eagle Forum, has been a relentless proponent of the nomination of far-right candidates like Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan.

In an Oct. 7, 2015, column, Schlafly wrote:

Establishment candidates have been unable to win the popular vote in five out of the last six elections, and that outcome is not something any Republican should want to repeat.

There is an unusual degree of consensus on the intensity of Cruz's conservatism among experts in campaigns, elections and partisan polarization....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; canadian; cruz; election2016; ineligible; newhampshire; putdownthecrackpipe; rubio; tedcruz; texas; trump
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To: Slyfox

If you find them acceptable feel free to use them and pass em along.


81 posted on 02/10/2016 2:19:49 AM PST by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's becaus e of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rubio spent around 30 times as much in New Hampshire as Ted Cruz; Cruz beat him anyway.
82 posted on 02/10/2016 2:49:59 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Slyfox

Great post Slyfox. Thank you for your observations and commentary.

sneaks


83 posted on 02/10/2016 3:20:25 AM PST by sneakers
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I guess I've just got to get used to Freeper flame wars another few weeks, but this year it's particularly painful to watch.


84 posted on 02/10/2016 3:41:59 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: nopardons; 2ndDivisionVet
Cruz can't win the general election.

That is my honest concern. I have to consider how popular this man is in the senate. He has very few allies there and while I am fine with him, others seem to believe he's singularly unlikable. Trump has not helped with this perception and used it effectively as a weapon.

However my gratitude to Trump was initially based on the fact, and yes, it's a fact, that he acted as a "flame shield" for Ted Cruz from the assaults of the leftist media. They were so focused on Trump that Cruz was able to make it this far. Trump just shrugged off attacks where I believe the left could have taken Cruz out by now.

Later, I felt I could support Trump as well. If for no other reason than a Trump/Cruz ticket could bring in Trump to break the back of the uni-party, and Ted Cruz could remain another 8 years to clean up the mess.

I still believe Cruz can make a close race and could even win the nomination, but I'm not opposed to Trump winning, build a wall and driving a stake through the heart of political correctness while the left goes nuts. That is a reality show I'd watch for 8 seasons.

But man, I hate watching people I value and respect go at each other this year, it's been really touch to read some of the flame wars.

85 posted on 02/10/2016 3:50:35 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Great point.

I agree, without any snark.

86 posted on 02/10/2016 3:55:27 AM PST by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: stanne

Time for a photoshop of either of them smiling and holding up a picture of an aborted fetus. Gross and shocking but probably effective.


87 posted on 02/10/2016 4:56:54 AM PST by Suz in AZ
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To: TigerClaws

88 posted on 02/10/2016 5:02:03 AM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Trump or Cruz, if you don't vote then STFU and leave the country, non-voters =non-Republic.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Third place, I believe the Cruz campaign will take that place and the two delegates that go with it

Like the bobble heads were saying the other day a fifth place finish was a win for Cruz and I did not understand how it was a win and only first was a win. As I read more about Cruz's ground game in NH and beyond the picture becomes clearer.

So to me it is still a loss but third is good for the Cruz campaign.

89 posted on 02/10/2016 5:45:15 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Senator Cruz spending his money the way I would want my President to spend mine.


90 posted on 02/10/2016 5:46:24 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: stanne

This 76 year old woman and mom wouldn’t vote for the Hildabeast if she were the only candidate on the ballot. I raised my boys for 10 yrs on my own, when I left their abusive father the man came home from Nam a changed man and I was not about to let him beat any of us, I walked out and never looked back. Did it with out child support he wouldn’t pay and before all the safety net social programs we now have. I WORKED as a waitress and in a factory making a whopping $3.50 per hr. My parents did the baby sitting during the summer and school breaks.


91 posted on 02/10/2016 5:55:25 AM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: Persephone Kore

Guess DT’s supporters didn’t read your reply. I did and would like you to put this out there as a thread possibly under vanity or general? ALso, using your three points, please give your opinion on the strengths of the candidates within those three. If you have a thread already written and we have read it, share it again here! Thanks.


92 posted on 02/10/2016 7:34:50 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: nopardons

Lucky for Ted...you only have one vote.


93 posted on 02/10/2016 8:13:07 AM PST by proudpapa (trusTed!)
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To: Suz in AZ

Discouraging that selling baby parts gets the video taper into legal trouble and the sellers /ghouls free reign


94 posted on 02/10/2016 9:18:11 AM PST by stanne
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To: GailA

Ditto desert storm. Don’t need bribes from dems


95 posted on 02/10/2016 9:19:47 AM PST by stanne
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To: Slyfox
You posted your OPINION and call it fact.

You supplied NO facts to back up your opinion.

I compared and contrasted the FFs with Ted and you ignored my facts, as well as my own opinions.

The FFs were visionaries who were able to understand that human nature doesn't change, ergo, many wrote about "if this happens, that will follow"/"this shouldn't be done, because that will follow"; though they couldn't foretell the future ( things such as cell phones, the net, plane, etc., which makes the world "smaller", they took pains to warn about things that never change.

There is less than nothing at all like that re Cruz. He can't think on his feet, he can't speak extemporaneously, he doesn't understand human nature, he isn't an original thinker, and though he supposedly know Constitutional law, he changes what is so, to what favors himself...re NBC.

96 posted on 02/10/2016 11:03:22 AM PST by nopardons
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To: stanne

Hillary’s supporters can’t ALL be ancient “FEMINISTS” and that was my point, as well as your statement about birth control.


97 posted on 02/10/2016 11:05:08 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Slyfox

Look up the word “impugn”.


98 posted on 02/10/2016 11:05:44 AM PST by nopardons
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To: mosesdapoet
Blah..blah...blah...you aren't worth the effort to refute your rant.

You need to read more history and how your views have or have not worked previously.

99 posted on 02/10/2016 11:11:40 AM PST by nopardons
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To: jpsb

Thank you; you said in a very few words, what I attempted to say in far too many, or perhaps not enough.


100 posted on 02/10/2016 11:13:01 AM PST by nopardons
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