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McGrath: Ted Cruz Stands Alone On a Female Draft
Conservative Review ^ | February 8, 2016 | Art McGrath

Posted on 02/08/2016 2:12:12 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

After last week's surprise statements by two top generals that women should sign up for the draft just like men, Sen. Ted Cruz has set himself apart from his Republican rivals in the race for president by saying unequivocally that the idea is "nuts."

When questioned at a Senate committee hearing last week, the Commandant of the Marine Corps. Gen. Robert Neller and Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley both said they thought women should have to register for Selective Service when they turn eighteen, just like men.

During Saturday's presidential candidate debate in Manchester, N.H., everyone on stage who spoke seemed to be in favor of it.

"I have to admit, as I was sitting there listening to that conversation, my reaction was, 'Are you guys nuts?'" Cruz said of his rivals at a town hall style gathering in New Hampshire the next day. At a later campaign event he addressed the issue again, saying:...

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To: Bringbackthedraft

I think the point the generals were trying to make is that if a select, vocal, and WRONG group of women want to be in combat roles, and force the issue, fine.

Conscript them all. When the majority decide life was better not having to think about mandatory conscription or having to kill another person, or possibly being raped while either being captured, or simply serving on a base somewhere in nowhere, they’ll tell the vocal minority to shove it.


81 posted on 02/08/2016 4:46:14 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs
I agree - I think that was exactly the reason they did it. To raise it as an issue during the political season so the underlying policy could be challenged.

I don't think they counted on most of the GOP candidates rolling over on the issue, though.

82 posted on 02/08/2016 4:49:02 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: The Final Harvest

His dad was a Representative, not a Senator.


83 posted on 02/08/2016 5:09:22 PM PST by Darth Reardon (During the Great Depression, World War I was referred to as the Great War)
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To: unixfox

“I agree with Ted on this, however...if women want to be treated equally they should have to bear the same burdens.”

I think a screaming contingent of fat ugly lesbians has asked for (DEMANDED?) this, not “women” in general.


84 posted on 02/08/2016 5:25:31 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

This retired military father of a little girl agrees with Ted on this issue. If she wants to join I will support her completely. But I cannot abide a government claim on my daughter (or anyone’s daughter) for the battlefield.


85 posted on 02/08/2016 6:40:13 PM PST by Support_and_Defend (Follow the money.)
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To: jwalsh07
Of the 2 million plus men who served in Vietnam

You really need to compare that to all the people who served in the military during the Vietnam war, not just those in the war zone. Millions served inside the USA, and other bases around the world during that time. But I'm against the draft in general because it's bad for the military, and an unnecessary attack on individual liberty. It also makes fighting wars more politically unpopular, which is why some Democrats love the idea. They also love the idea that the government has the right to conscript citizens for the military and non-military service. IMHO there should have to be a direct threat to the survival of the country with a DOW before we resort to it. I guess we could always put those women down on the border.

86 posted on 02/08/2016 6:46:28 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man St anding.)
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To: upsdriver; RitaOK

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Face it,Cruz should be president.

He is absolutely the only honest man in the race.

Rita trying to turn the truth on its head changes nothing.

Trump and Rubio are sniveling liars and tricksters, and the rest behind them can’t even rise that high.


87 posted on 02/08/2016 7:10:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Personally, I don't want them being drafted in any way shape or form. I want them at home raising the children while daddy goes off to war if necessary.

But what about the lesbians?

88 posted on 02/08/2016 7:56:11 PM PST by Go_Trump_2016
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To: jwalsh07
Conscription happens because the Army and Marine Corps are short on fighters. Not to fill the rear echelon ranks.

Waste of time and money when half the draftees can not be fighters.

Tell that to the female soldiers in the IDF's Caracal Battalion and see what happens next! ;-)

89 posted on 02/08/2016 7:56:12 PM PST by Go_Trump_2016
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To: Support_and_Defend
I won't vote for any candidate in the general election who continues Obama's policy on women in ground combat units, volunteers or not.

The idea that candidates are discussing this as an issue of "choice" or "rights", rather than military effectiveness, makes me ill.

By publicly opposing putting women in ground combat units, and backing it up with a comprehensive study, the Commandant of the Marine Corps gave conservative politicians the ammo to oppose Obama. It appears most of them are simply rolling over for the sake of political correctness/expediency.

Might as well elect Hillary or Bernie and just get it over with.

90 posted on 02/08/2016 8:03:42 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: editor-surveyor

<< “ Rita trying to turn the truth on its head changes nothing. “ >>

You mean honest, and truthful, like:

” Carson is not going to New Hampshire or South Carolina.”

” Carson is SUSPENDING his campaign. “

” ...so move the votes to Cruz. “????


91 posted on 02/08/2016 8:38:00 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I voted for Hunter in the primaries in ‘08. He was by far my favorite candidate in that election. Too bad most primary voters instead opted for a RINO who kissed Hussein’s ass and looked like he wanted no part of winning. Same as in ‘12.


92 posted on 02/08/2016 8:43:14 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: RitaOK

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Most of Carson’s original support did go to Cruz.

What is causing your insanity?


93 posted on 02/08/2016 9:24:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mr. Mojo

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Mindless morons, much like Trump’s supporters now.


94 posted on 02/08/2016 9:26:11 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: glorgau

True. I was one of those men who didn’t ask to be drafted, but I was, in 1969.


95 posted on 02/08/2016 9:33:00 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: editor-surveyor

Most of the “original” caucus vote sure went to Cruz too, given the IOWA outcome.


96 posted on 02/08/2016 9:42:48 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Mollypitcher1

In my decades of experience, the best female pilots were. . . good. . .not excellent, not superb, just good.

This brings us to the discussion of natural warrior aggression in males versus merely acting aggressive. Meaning, the oft-mocked testosterone-driven aggression in males, this aggression is essential to “win,” to achieve, to dominate a thing or mission. In my experience, females when in a warrior environment act like they feel they should act, based on what they observe, and this is forced behavior, not natural, and is reflected in a certain “meanness” which is a far different thing than aggression and performance level is never really equal.

Male testosterone-driven behavior is seen in real life, and in popular media. Whenever a female is placed in a warrior environment they affect the rough language and behavior. . .even in popular media. This is tacit acknowledgement of my point—testosterone IS essential to being a warrior

There is a world of difference between natural aggression and meanness.

And then there is the media and their “Buffy” lie. Buffy can kick the poo out of any male of any size, even if Buffy is 100lbs. This lie permeates popular media and little females/girls are influenced and come to believe this is reality, not fiction. When the real world hits them back it is a shock (”I demand equality but you can’t hit me because I’m a girl!”).

But that is another discussion.

Rear-area ferry pilots, okay. Front line, not okay.

That is all I have to say as I am too tired to get into a more detailed debate at this time. . .wrong thread.

Cheers.


97 posted on 02/09/2016 5:48:45 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Go_Trump_2016

Ah yes, the myth of the Israeli Warrior Princess. Reason enough to draft 5’2” 120 pound fire breathers from Podunk High.


98 posted on 02/09/2016 6:23:08 AM PST by jwalsh07 (On)
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To: Hulka
You are exactly right. I spent a couple of years at The Basic School in Quantico, training newly commissioned male and female officers in weapns and tactics.

Suffice it to say that the differences are enormous. I'll never forget when an entire platoon of women refused to move through a swampy area. Directly ordered, and the response was "I'm not going in there." We were dumbfounded, but what are you going to do?

Fortunately, we had no inkling that women would be in the infantry, so we could just chalk it up as "one of those things."

And not only are injury rates higher among women who go through intense training, but there is the whole issue of pregnancy. Just on a raw numbers/staffing level, it's an asinine idea.

99 posted on 02/09/2016 6:37:30 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: RitaOK

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Why are you overlooking the fact that it was Carson’s manager that spread all of those rumors?
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100 posted on 02/09/2016 8:21:13 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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