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No Deal: How Does Trump Plan to Reform America's Healthcare System?
National Review ^ | 02/08/2016

Posted on 02/08/2016 7:27:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: knarf

You’re not wrong, and neither is the adage “a rising tide floats all boats”. We used to take 3-4% GDP growth for granted, before the punishing regulations and nationalization that has occurred in the Obamanation.

Start by revoking all Executive Orders passed by Obama. ALL of them. If something is important it can be reviewed after the case is made. Then review all congressional legislation that Obama put in place and start the work to repeal it, beginning with Obamacare. Some things can’t be undone by a President alone, no matter what candidates claim - Congress made these laws and Congress is the only one that can un-make them, but President Trump will hasten to make that deal, while the R majority (hopefully) still exists.

Stop giving money to people who are our enemies.

Stop subsidizing things that don’t need to be subsidized, whether it’s an industry, an energy source, a program that isn’t needed or doesn’t produce results, or people who are just leeches on society.

Whoever he picks as VP should have a lot of administrative and executive experience, because if I were Trump I’d put my VP in charge of Government Demolition. Just as “demo” is the first phase of a construction project, he needs to start tearing out the old government that doesn’t work. Replace what might be needed with a “beautiful new government” that does, or put some nice green space in its place (i.e. green money in taxpayers pockets).

If I can see how to do this, you can bet the great advisors Trump has see it. The issue is putting man in charge who will DO it rather than lawyers, politicians, (or both) who will be constrained by the political system they have worked in all their lives.


21 posted on 02/08/2016 7:53:31 AM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: SubMareener

“If I’m negotiating for health insurance for my people in New York or California or Texas, I usually have one bidder in each state. Competition brings down prices, and the way the law is now, it discourages real competition between insurance companies for customers. They have virtual monopolies within the states.”

Nonsense. Almost all the large insurers are available in just about every state. If Trump was negotiating in New York, then Kaiser, United, Cigna, Aetna and probably all the other major insurers are available.


22 posted on 02/08/2016 7:53:36 AM PST by FewsOrange
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To: SeekAndFind

There is simply no hope for people who don’t want things to get better. It is clear that you are happier complaining than working to improve things, or supporting someone who actually has a record of improving things, and has written down actual plans for improving things.

I want to assure you that when Donald Trump is elected President you will be able to complain about something he does or something he doesn’t do.


23 posted on 02/08/2016 7:56:23 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cruz is going to fix it? he tried already. No one followed him. He let everyone else define what he did, even late night talk show hosts

Show where n review has been intellectual on trump

None of those people are going to fix health care. They would not exert constitutional power to fix this system which is now run by huge corporate money which rules over the government


24 posted on 02/08/2016 7:57:20 AM PST by stanne
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To: YukonGreen

RE: First of all don’t let National Review know any of your plans until after the election.

How much different is this compared to “We have to vote for it to see what’s in it”?


25 posted on 02/08/2016 7:57:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Where is your boy’s ‘detailed’ health plan?

Giving us John Roberts to insure we are stuck with Obamacare was enough.


26 posted on 02/08/2016 7:59:18 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SeekAndFind
If Trump disclosed his plan/idea Ted Cruz would be shouting it as his from the roof tops and his dimwit supporters would find something related that he uttered 10 yrs ago as proof.

People ask these kinds of questions for you idiots that think just because you can't think of a way something can be done...it can't be done.

27 posted on 02/08/2016 8:00:08 AM PST by lewislynn
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To: SeekAndFind

Have any other candidates been asked to explain what they plan to replace obamacare with? Or just Trump


28 posted on 02/08/2016 8:00:59 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: stanne

Cruz’s ONE and only legislative accomplishment during his BRIEF career in the US Senate was a bill to stop Iran’s proposed U.N. envoy Hamid Aboutalebi from entering the United States. Since becoming a member of the Most Exclusive Club in the World, Cruz has accomplished little, other than grandstanding speeches to elevate his profile to enable him to run for President, his lifelong ambition.

Sounds familiar doesn’t it?


29 posted on 02/08/2016 8:03:52 AM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: SeekAndFind

After National Review’s anti-Trump issue... they basically lost all credibility because they basically announced that every piece they publish will be anti-Trump. That said... I do wish that Trump would come out with more specifics about what he wants to do after repealing Obamacare.

My understanding is that he wants to make it easier for insurance companies to offer plans in multiple states so that more choices will be available and completion may be increased. He also says he wants to encourage “health care savings plans” something that my wife and I have and appreciate. That combined with our Christian Healthcare Ministries “coverage”, is a good solution for us to get around the huge expense of Obamacare both to the government and to individuals.

Unfortunately, our “healthcare savings plan” which was set up by my employer when I retired, has funds added to it every month until I reach Medicare age that were intended to help partially offset our health insurance expenses. Currently, the IRS does not allow these funds to be used to pay the “premiums” of a Healthcare Ministry because they are not considered insurance despite the fact that they serve the identical function. I would like to see this changed, but none of the candidates seem to be aware of the existence of Healthcare Ministries let alone the way Obama stooges in the IRS do everything in their power to make it difficult for those of us who choose the option.

One of the biggest problems with Obama care is that it not only mandates that people buy a plan; it also mandates what coverage must be included in those plans... a bunch of left wing nonsense like forcing all of us to pay for abortions, sex change counseling and surgeries, drug treatment programs, etc. etc. etc... It all sounds good to them, but if you are not a drug abuser why should you be forced to pay for their treatment? If you are not a sexually “confused” pervert why should you be forced to pay for their counseling and treatment?

I wish all the candidates would articulate more specifics on health care... more specifically that the government for the most part needs to get out of the way and let the free market do what it does best... let people and providers work out the most efficient means of delivering the services that are desired.


30 posted on 02/08/2016 8:05:57 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: FewsOrange

Right now, every insurance company must meet the requirements of an individual state’s insurance commission. That is a fact. Some of the companies are in multiple states, but the plans will not be the same. If there is a plan in a neighboring state, you can’t buy it.

It is worse now with Obamacare. They have moved the lines down to the COUNTY level. What is available in Tucson is not available in Phoenix.


31 posted on 02/08/2016 8:06:04 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: SeekAndFind
He has been a periodic advocate of a United Kingdom–style monopoly system

The lies start in the second sentence. Britain has National Healthcare for the peasants. If you have the money, you can see doctors on your own dime. Britain is not like Cuba, North Korea, or Canada where there is a government monopoly.

If anyone wants to see what a government run health system would look like, go to your local VA.

32 posted on 02/08/2016 8:06:32 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (behind enemy lines)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Donald Trump doesn’t know what he thinks about health care.”

Guess the writer didn’t watch the debate. Trump gave a well-thought-out response. Free market. Portability. Shopping across state borders. HSAs.

But he “doesn’t know”?


33 posted on 02/08/2016 8:07:05 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Romans 8:38-39)
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To: Red Badger

“Get rid of ObozoCare”

Correct. That is the first and most important step.

I wish one of these “expert” fools who writes these Trump hit pieces would take a stop watch and give himself 60 seconds to completely and ultimately explain to everyone’ satisfaction how to correct the nation’s health care system.

Carson, who is a doctor, stepped into the weeds a little too deeply, and pointed out that it cannot be done on a stage such as they had.

I thought Trump did okay using his time allotment.


34 posted on 02/08/2016 8:07:35 AM PST by odawg
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To: RC one

A year ago I broke my left foot and in every room in ER was a sign saying you would not be refused service due to inability to pay. My co pay of $60 was actually reduced to $45 because we paid at the time of service. The hospital clerk said almost no one pays so this was a way they hope to encourage some payment. Sad that people feel so little self responsibility.


35 posted on 02/08/2016 8:07:50 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: bigbob
Thanx ... the more I meditate on our true state of the union, the more I remember MY halcyon carefree days of the late 60's / early 70's as a young man with a new car ('68 Firebird, tach on the hood, ageanta teal blue ... ass end too light, but a chick magnet) ... working AND evolving into hip eye ... I had the world by the balls

Why?

'cause I was educated (REALLY educated) and had a job

36 posted on 02/08/2016 8:08:48 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another NR hit piece. The reality is that no one really has a plan to replace Obamacare. It will be up to Congress to fight it out first to repeal Obamacare (doubtful) and even if successful, there will be a fight about how to replace it with the special interests and lobbyists getting involved. There will be compromises and deals. So this is all a tempest in a teapot.


37 posted on 02/08/2016 8:09:06 AM PST by kabar
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To: AuntB
Giving us John Roberts to insure we are stuck with Obamacare was enough.

THAT nonsense again?

Let's begin with the claim that Senator Cruz "approved" Roberts and therefore put him on the Supreme Court. The cheering Trumpkins at the rally apparently didn't know that only members of the U.S. Senate get to approve the nomination of a Supreme Court justice. When Roberts was confirmed in 2005, Cruz was the Solicitor General of Texas. He didn't become a U.S. Senator until 2013. To put it in terms that even a Trump supporter can comprehend, Cruz can't possibly be "the one that got Justice Roberts onto the United States Supreme Court" because he didn't arrive in the Senate until 8 years after the man was confirmed.

It is true that Cruz was supportive of Roberts, as were most Republicans at the time of his nomination. He realized that this was a mistake after the Chief Justice joined the Court's liberals at the eleventh hour to save Obamacare's individual mandate. In fact, Cruz consistently denounced that outrageous ruling during his 2012 Senate campaign. As he put it just after the decision: "This is a sad day for liberty. The Supreme Court has abdicated its responsibility to safeguard the Constitution, and it has rewritten Obamacare in an ill-advised attempt to save it." And Cruz has since bucked the GOP establishment over the funding of the law.

38 posted on 02/08/2016 8:11:43 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Don Corleone
The best thing to replace it with is NOTHING! Just get the hell out of the way and watch the American free enterprise system take over and return it to the pinnacle of international health service that it was before the political fixers got their grubby payola stained hands on it.

agree! There has not been a true free enterprise healthcare system since Healthcare benefits were tied to employment by FDR tax policy.
39 posted on 02/08/2016 8:13:21 AM PST by MyDogAteMyBallot
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump has said, since the day he announced (and even before) that 0care is a disaster, that he’ll repeal and replace with private plans available for purchase across state lines (something we screamed about, thread after thread here, before and during 0care betrayal). He’s also said he’ll clean up all of the MANY levels of red tape between hospitals and insurance companies.


40 posted on 02/08/2016 8:15:24 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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