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30 minutes of chaos: Witness details events of Finicum shooting
OregonLive ^ | 2/6/2016 | Les Zaitz

Posted on 02/07/2016 5:53:27 AM PST by Nextrush

BURNS-The line of police SUVs and tactical rigs tucked back in the woods on a side road alarmed Robert "LaVoy" Finicum as he drove by on the highway to John Day.

"It's a set up," he declared to those in the pickup with him.

In less than a half-hour, Finicum would lie dead in the snow and others in the truck would be in handcuffs, held for hourse on the blockaded road north of Burns.

Shawna Cox, 59, a mother of 13 from Utah was one of those in the truck with Finicum......

And then she saw Finicum. She was struck by one detail given that he had fallen backward in the snow: "He still had his hat on and his glasses."

She looked for his wounds. "I saw no blood. I saw no injuries. I could see his face," she said.

Meanwhile, police demanded to know whether anyone remained in the truck.

"Nobody," she told them.

Cox was handcuffed and placed on the road next to Sharp, coatless and shivering. Cox leaned into her, trying to share some warmth. Police soon let the two perch on the edge of a van's open doorway. Cox said law enforcement by now had moved to Finicum's body.

"You killed him," she told them. "You murdered him."

She said she shifted her focus on trying to calm Sharp. She engaged Sharp in prayer.

"Then she (Sharp) yells out, 'I forgive you.' And I said, 'We hope God forgives you,'" Cox said.

She continued trying to settle Sharp. "You will remember this for the rest of your life. You must testify and tell the truth of what you saw today," Cox told her.

The two began singing, including the nation's anthem, "The Star Spangled Banner.".....

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


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Shawna Cox's account of what happened when "LaVoy" Finicum was killed.

Its a long story that the "Portland Oregonian" is running in print for the weekend, no doubt. Its also posted in this story online for "OregonLive".

You can read the "guts" of it at the link.

1 posted on 02/07/2016 5:53:28 AM PST by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

God bless those women. They have no reason to lie. The FBI and Oregon State Police have plenty to lie about.


2 posted on 02/07/2016 6:08:31 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Nextrush

Feb 4
4 holdout occupiers at Oregon wildlife refuge are indicted

http://news.yahoo.com/security-beefed-national-wildlife-refuges-3-states-040241397.html?nf=1

The four remaining occupiers at an Oregon wildlife refuge are facing charges, according to court documents released Thursday
[ ]
A newly unsealed indictment names 16 defendants, including the holdouts, standoff leader Ammon Bundy and other occupiers arrested last week. Also named is Kenneth Medenbach, who was arrested after being caught driving a government vehicle to a supermarket.
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The holdouts have said they are not leaving without a guarantee they won’t be arrested. If they stay true to their word, the indictment buries any chance they will surrender on their own.


3 posted on 02/07/2016 6:19:50 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Nextrush

The government authorized the killing of peacefull citizens conducting an act of civil disobedience to bring attention to government over-reach.
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Some one, some where, had the authority to tell the agents on the ground to lie and deceive this group and lure them into the open. Once that was accomplished they let freedom take its short course then shot and killed it as soon as it was exercised.


4 posted on 02/07/2016 6:20:52 AM PST by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Nextrush

There has been some talk that McConnell was an FBI plant and that is why his video of events was released. Wasn’t he “arrested”?


5 posted on 02/07/2016 6:22:21 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Nextrush
These guys don't look like ordinary cops.

Who Killed Lavoy? This is what I see.

6 posted on 02/07/2016 6:25:41 AM PST by Chunga85 (Don't complain, my account is already suspended.)
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To: Nextrush
The FBI released video has some serious issues with it's authenticity.

The date is wrong. If it was a drone then it could of been piloted from anywhere on Earth and that could be the “local” time the drone is based in. If it was a helo then it raises some questions. There is a strange lack of muzzle flashes on the video.

The whole video has a wrong feel to it. Almost like it was an exercise.

After watching the video numerous times I am struck by the following:

The shooter on the left was not wearing a jacket. Odd considering the weather was cool.
Where is the blood? I know Cox commented on that but it is an excellent question.
Why is the family withholding the private autopsy details?

I now believe Finicum was shot by LEO’s not in the frame of the video - IF the video is genuine.

I had hoped that the autopsy was available by now.

Also, very odd behavior by the PPN. Not sure what that indicates.

7 posted on 02/07/2016 6:41:12 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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It’s really strange that she said she saw no wounds or blood. You don’t need an expert autopsy to just look for bullet holes in his hips right?

The family should know that already. My tin foil hat wonders if he got shot by something out of a Tom Clancy novel.


8 posted on 02/07/2016 6:55:20 AM PST by Chunga85 (Don't complain, my account is already suspended.)
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The autopsy will tell. There is a thing going around - even on FR - that he was shot 9 times. If that is true then it wasn’t by the LEO on the right. No muzzle flashes.


9 posted on 02/07/2016 7:00:46 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Texas Eagle

At this time I believe McConnell is/was an FBI informant. he was released after questioning.

“Mark McConnell, who was with the Bundys at the time of their arrest and later released, disputed this account in a video on Facebook. He said that Finicum “charged at law enforcement” and ended up getting shot — and that the stuff about Finicum being shot while his hands were up was “nonsense.””
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/

Thing is McConnell wasn’t even near the shooting scene with Finicum.


10 posted on 02/07/2016 7:08:10 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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I noticed that in his video. First he says he saw the whole thing and then in the same breath he says he didn't see everything.

He had stopped at the first roadblock. Unless he had Superman-like vision and hearing, he couldn't have seen and heard what happened a mile up the road.

Questioned and released. Just like that.

11 posted on 02/07/2016 7:24:52 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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he couldn’t have seen and heard what happened a mile up the road.
= = =

But he knew that Finicum’s pickup truck’s tires were still spinning in the snow after he got out.

I say some cop told him this ‘tidbit’ and he threw it in for authenticity.


12 posted on 02/07/2016 7:28:41 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

+1.


13 posted on 02/07/2016 7:53:05 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Nextrush; goodnesswins; PROCON; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

I lost my Oregon list when my computer crashed last year, so please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.

14 posted on 02/07/2016 7:54:07 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Texas Eagle

The Sheriff of that county has a complete Conflict of Interest. He was a former BLM employee.


15 posted on 02/07/2016 8:17:17 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Texas Eagle

No, he was not.

If you read into the details of Shawna Cox’s account in this article, she spoke of a convoy of separate vehicles leaving every 15 minutes and staying apart, but the vehicle behind the one LaVoy Fincium was driving, the one driven by McConnell was up close when the FBI Hostage Rescue Team came roaring out from the side road sirens blaring, lights flashing using flash bangs on the truck to get Finicum to stop.

Was McConnell driving in a way to keep everyone together for the FBI trap?


16 posted on 02/07/2016 8:47:27 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS: REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

bkmk


17 posted on 02/07/2016 10:51:26 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Nextrush

What was the timing of the van that was ahead of everyone else? How far ahead?

Was it stopped, questioned, searched?

Why or why not?

Did they encounter the roadblock? Was it set up later?

Seems like Fincium and Bundy were the targets, and were ratted on by an insider, enabling the selective trap.


18 posted on 02/07/2016 11:20:02 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
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The planned timing was 15 minutes ahead. The first van containted a woman who along with her seven children who were going to sing gospel songs at the meeting in John Day.

The presence of police, law enforcement activity wasn’t detected from that vehicle until they reached a point in southern Grant County, next to Harney County and close to John Day, dozens of miles north of the deadly action.

An actual roadblock was reported set up at that point.

A cell phone call was made from the first vehicle to those coming up from the south but spotty cell phone service mean’t the call didn’t get through to those other vehicles dozens of miles south in Harney County.

The ‘operation’ may have already begun by that point.

No one in the first vehicle was on their arrest list and neither was the 18 year old girl (Victoria Sharp) who was part of the gospel singing family in Finicum’s vehicle nor Mark McConnell in the third.


19 posted on 02/07/2016 1:55:46 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS: REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Texas Eagle
There has been some talk that McConnell was an FBI plant and that is why his video of events was released. Wasn’t he “arrested”?

The CI is usually the first to be arrested and hauled away from the others. McConnell was one of the first.

20 posted on 02/07/2016 3:47:30 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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