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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 7 February 2016
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 7 February 2016 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 02/07/2016 4:30:28 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



February 7th, 2016

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Republican presidential candidates Gov. John Kasich, R-OH, Gov Chris Christie, R-NJ; ex-Gov Jeb Bush, R-FL.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump; Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton; Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sanders, Clinton; DeMaurice Smith, executive director of the NFL Players Association.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Republican presidential candidate Sen. Marco Rubio, R-FL; Trump; Clinton.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Sanders, Clinton, Trump; Christie; Kasich.

Sharyl Attkisson's Full Measure Events of one night, may have started a sea change in attitudes towards many refugees from the Mid-East and northern Africa. It was the New Year's Eve attacks on women in Cologne, Germany. Scott Thuman has the story, on the next episode of Full Measure.


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To: pugmama
I don't think his heart is in this anymore.

Been listening for 16 years and agree with your comments. Especially, that last one. I honestly can't figure out what's gotten into him lately. I quit lisrening a few weeks ago and now follow on the FR thread.

81 posted on 02/07/2016 7:07:10 AM PST by SMM48
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To: bray
Its very unusual and as I stated the first day he did all this bias crap I was shocked. It wasn't so much that he was shilling for cruz it was that he would shill for "anyone". It didn't really matter who it was what was important was that Rush was now biased and was not before.
Reasons why are probably his brother, who is a cruz bot and his lawyer Mark Levin whose daughter is engaged to a staffer on the cruz election staff and who knows what else.
As far as losing audience these guys are all so arrogant they never think they will lose anyone.Goes with the turf.
82 posted on 02/07/2016 7:08:56 AM PST by rodguy911 (Sarah Palin our secret weapon --Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Thanks for that report.

It is interesting about the insurance competition.

I was having a “conversation” earlier this week with a colleague who is “Progressive Leaning” as he calls himself.

The conversation was about the so called Affordable Care Act (Obamacare).

I asked him if he was aware that much of the thousands of pages of this law were written by “Big Pharma” and the “Health Care Lobby”? (I love using the Left’s terms against them (Big Tobacco/Oil, the Gun Lobby...)

He said he was aware and very against the bill. I was surprised.

I asked him if it is just possible, that dropping state medical insurance boundaries and forcing these companies to compete against each other wouldn’t have been better for us all.

Of course, he wants single payer, but he did agree that having vigorous competition would probably be a good thing but hasn’t been tried in this way ever.

Now this colleague is extremely unhappy about his taxes, because like me he is an independent training consultant. I reminded him that single payer means—not some nebulous entity that pays, but you and me—our taxes.

He had no comeback, and had to agree I was on to something. I told him, not me, Trump.


83 posted on 02/07/2016 7:13:42 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: rodguy911

This whole thing started in 1993.

HillaryCare failed in Washington, but she had buddies in the Northeast States where they completely destroyed the stable medical insurance market, elsewhere, other states, not at all. Hence the huge differences in premium from state to state.

How did they do it?

They killed underwriting and HRPs.

Insurers used to be able to ask questions about health, pre-existing conditions, age etc (underwriting) Those not qualifying for coverage (those with predictable and chronic $100,000 per year claims) would be covered under another program called a High Risk Pool. Typically around 1% of those seeking insurance need to be in the HRP. (hemophiliacs, AIDS patients, the dying)

Remembering, if people already had insurance, they would remain covered as long as they continue paying their premiums. HRPs are only for uninsured people seeking insurance (in any given state) for the first time.

The two public policy entities causing the nightmare are called Guaranteed Issue and Community Rating. The former, as implied, coverage for all comers, and the latter delivering only slightly different premium rates for all age groups. (young people have less money and are generally much healthier)


84 posted on 02/07/2016 7:15:41 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: rodguy911

Rush isn’t fooling anyone with his pro cruz schtick. What he is doing is insulting his audience and probably losing half of it. All he needs to do is be honest and endorse cruz and that would be okay. He’s losing/lost his credibility.........


85 posted on 02/07/2016 7:16:42 AM PST by hey Bean
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To: 9YearLurker

I was just about to somewhat accept that the Gang of 8 was a rookie mistake and Marco had learned a valuable life lesson and not to defy the will of the people (American people), but then I read the transcript of the Ramos interview he did for Spanish Language television.

I’ve come to a newer conclusion. Rubio is a liar.

Rush, please heed well this lesson.

After the 2014 elections and McConnell/Boehner (and now Ryan) double-cross, we hate being lied too. Worst political mistake ever, and deserves our full scorn and rejection.

Tell us the truth, no matter how it hurts your political chances, because when we found you outright lied, your career is OVER.


86 posted on 02/07/2016 7:18:57 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: JohnnyMacG

you’re now on it!


87 posted on 02/07/2016 7:21:30 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Alas Babylon!
Meanwhile in Fantasyland aka Illinois, everyone is giggly over the visit of Obama to Springfield this Wednesday to lecture the legislature on how to get things done.

And if that's not enough, four Chicago area legislators have introduced a bill to make Obamas birthday a State holiday.

88 posted on 02/07/2016 7:23:38 AM PST by hillarynot (I play in Peoria)
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To: hey Bean

What these guys do not seem to get is when they insult Trump they insult every one of his followers. He should know his people are smart and are not being fooled by anyone.

It is easier to turn the channel than to continue to be insulted, we can get that anywhere and not by someone we trust.

Same with Levin, we get they think Cruz is a conservative saint. Problem is he has his issues too and they refuse to even look while they pull the slivers from Trump’s eye.

I cannot get over his close ties to Goldman Sachs. That is just a deal killer. His wife makes $750K a year from them. Why them of all the banks in the world?


89 posted on 02/07/2016 7:29:39 AM PST by bray (Trump/Palin 2016)
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To: bray
Did you notice last night after Trump listed those solutions to Obamacare, Cruz said the exact same list?

Those have been the GOP positions for decades. Rep Tom Price MD(R-GA) has long been the champion of freemarket reform.

Here's a pretty detailed summary

90 posted on 02/07/2016 7:30:55 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: rodguy911
Topics were the poor terrorists invading Germany

Yes, the solution to the invading rapists in Europe; is to sic our now queer-military members on them, with the ROA orders being to "rape on sight"...and beat them up a bit.

91 posted on 02/07/2016 7:36:20 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Alas Babylon!

I posted this on another thread yesterday .... if you haven’t seen/read what is at the link, you should. I did post the entire Conclusion ..... pretty chilling, actually.

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Email released by Phyllis Schlafly ..... details Rubio’s record .... what he campaigned on & what he actually did when he got to the Senate ..... excellent summary with links:

Rubio Record (immigration)
http://www.eagleforum.org/immigration/rubio-record.html

From the “CONCLUSION”:

There is no single major distinguishing policy difference between Marco Rubio, John McCain or Lindsey Graham. They have the same trade policy, immigration policy and foreign policy. But on immigration most especially — the issue in which all four have invested the most — there is no daylight separating them.

The difference, then, is one of persona, not policy. And in the arena of immigration, this translates into a vital difference. The biggest change from McCain-Kennedy, which could not get out of the Senate, and the Gang of Eight — which was nursed along by conservative pundits despite being to the left of Kennedy’s bill — was the presence of Rubio. Rubio created the conditions necessary to produce a considerably more open borders bill: conservatives who were invested in the Rubio Brand provided no early pushback but accepted Kennedy’s old talking points, and Rubio gave red state Democrats the political space necessary to support it. This is how it got 68 votes in the Senate.

The stakes of course are raised considerably if Rubio is President or Vice President. Rubio would have a much, much better chance than Obama of getting an open borders bill through Congress — while Boehner could refuse to bring up Obama’s mass immigration/amnesty bill for vote in 2014, Ryan would never refuse Rubio’s bill. Rubio’s presence, as it did with the Gang of Eight, would create the cover for both certain Republicans and all Democrats to get behind a far more open borders plan. Given that nearly every House Democrat sponsored the Gang of Eight House version (including Pelosi and Gutierrez), Ryan would not need to gather that many additional votes (House GOP leaders might have refused Obama’s 2014 request for a vote but they would not refuse President Rubio’s).

All of which adds up to: there is likely no person in the United States of America in a better position to enact mass immigration legislation than a President Rubio — no one who could deliver more votes in both parties for open borders immigration. Senator Rubio is not Main Street’s Obama, he is Wall Street’s Obama: President Obama was a hardcore leftist running as centrist; Senator Rubio is a Wall Street globalist running as a tea party conservative.

Unlike other legislation, the effects of bad immigration policy cannot be repealed. They are forever. The Republican party would never nominate a pro-Obamacare candidate, and it must be an even stronger maxim that it should not nominate any candidate who is committed to a policy of mass immigration. Rubio wrote the Obamacare of immigration policies: a bill that would have eviscerated the middle class, plunged millions into poverty, legalized the most dangerous aliens on the planet, overwhelmed our schools and safety nets, and done irreversible violence to the idea of America as a nation-state. Rubio is the candidate of open borders, Obamatrade and mass immigration, making one last attempt to pull off one big con.


92 posted on 02/07/2016 7:39:16 AM PST by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: Alas Babylon!
he did agree that having vigorous competition would probably be a good thing but hasn't been tried in this way ever.

Yeah it has.

You could save 15% or more in 15 minutes, on car insurance.

93 posted on 02/07/2016 7:40:10 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Alas Babylon!

FOX “News” Review

FOX “News”, acting as flacks, claims the debate winners
last night were:
Fox: “The Governors “reasserted themselves last night”.”

... for those who missed it the real deal:

ROUNDUP OF DEBATE 2/6/2016 (starting with winner)


Tiger Trump - The Winner. Courageous on issues. Calm.

Christie - The Runner Up. Strong. Give him a donut.

Carson - Insipid. Kind. Accurate.
Give him a ticket home until he can run the VA or FDA

Cruz - Oily. ObamaTRADE, that he help get to vote, signed the day of debate.

Rubio - Washed up and wilted under Christie. Well memorized sentence said robot-like.

Kasich - Lost in space. Truly in the wrong party, as he admits.

Bush - Someone call his Mommy to take him home. Not all his sentences were coherent.

Kangaroo Audience: Clearly rigged for, and by, RINO donors.
Mr. Trump was reportedly given 2 dozen tickets.


The FOX “News” Governor Interviews on Sunday 2/7/2016:


RINO-lover Chris Wallace indicates FOX “News” thought
Christie went “down” last night.

Wallace brings up “bridgegate”, and NJ economics.

Christie shows that Wallace cherry-picked the facts
so Wallace interrupts him and will not let Christie
correct Wallace’s inaccuracies.

Runner-up Christie pushes on with his facts.

Wallace goes against Christie’s wife, and twists
the facts with respect to Kasich (”on who is the best governor”).

Christie asks Wallace why the heck is FOX “news”
supporting Rubio given his poor performance last night.
Christie: “You guys make me laugh”. And goes on
make Wallace uncomfortable (begins laughing to cover)
even at the Christie-powered “goodbye”.

Kasich, looking sporty, discusses his 100-day
Path to Improve status of Illegal aliens including
path to legalization.

Kasich’s solution to the border is: “get the border done”.
Done. Done. Done. The word is used for everything
replacing the karate chops.

Kasich: “I am not establishment. I am not antiestablishment”.

After claiming he would win today in Mississippi,
Kasich says, “We are all over the place.”

Wallace: “You expanded Medicaid” and claims Kasich
supported ObamaCARE. Kasich tries to explain the
difference, but at first Wallace interrupts as
the FOX “News” reporter always does.

Kasich continues to clarify, so the FOX “News”
biased moderator interrupts him again,
and then throws him out.

Bush is brought in.

Bush: (noting Wallace threw out Kasich)
“That was a quick transition”.
Wallace goes to the Trump-Bush segment last
night, and amplified the boos of the kangaroo audience.

Bush last the softball and says,
Bush: “He does not look like a President when he acts that way.”

Wallace prepares another softball.
Wallace: “Why go after Rubio?”
Bush: “I am a leader. Marco is a gifted young man”
Wallace: “You (pushed) him for Romney’s choice”
Bush: “I did support him for VP”

Bush says that he would support the GOP candidate
“even if it was Trump”
Wallace says that that would make Bush “crazy”.

Bush: “I am a Bush (describes family) .. this is a beginning
(of the Bush dynasty)”

FOX PANEL ON WHO WON THE DEBATE LAST NIGHT
Sununu : Governor’s won. Rubio “stepped in it”
Trashes Trump. “There was nothing there”

Julie Pace AP News: Rubio is cautious.
“(Rubio is) able to bring more
people into the party.”
“(Trump) had a good night. He emerged unscathed.”

Bret Baier: Trump was playing it safe.
“The governors had a good night.”

Jame Pindell [from Boston Globe, known anti GOP run by
New York Times] - Doesnt say who won, but
Rubio did poorly.

Viewers wonder if Wallace and Pindell will retire and
cry in the green room about Rubio’s loss.

=== Conclusion:

1) Today’s interviews match last night’s order of win.

2) When “moderator” Wallace actually says openly
that it would make Bush “crazy” to support the GOP candidate
“if the GOP candidate was Trump” is salient evidence
of exactly how Biased FOX “News” really is.


94 posted on 02/07/2016 7:44:33 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: AU72

Thanks for the heads up - not on here yet. Doesn’t surprise me is little Georgie Boy is a Clintonite - probably sends her the questions. FTN is on (early today) - Hillary! was on and The Bern is on now - not really listening - reading FR while eating oatmeal. Trump should be coming up soon and then I’ll go in front of the TV


95 posted on 02/07/2016 7:45:11 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: 9YearLurker

I didn’t hear it, but read when Rush interviewed Rubio some time ago, Rubio essentially lied to Rush about amnesty and Rush bought it (unfortunately).


96 posted on 02/07/2016 7:46:57 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Diogenesis
Cruz - Oily.

Well, he is from Texas...and The Tar-sand Country.

Rubio - Washed up and wilted

Not to mention, he's an anchor baby.

97 posted on 02/07/2016 7:48:15 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: rodguy911

But Rush never endorses anyone in the primary (so he and others say) - he does it but in a stealth manner.


98 posted on 02/07/2016 7:48:22 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Never slip toward that again. Rubio was a massive pro-amnesty guy when he was in the FL legislature too. The big aberration was his lying to pretty he was “tea party” during his senate run, and now the bald-faced lie that he’d only consider it once the border is secure, if that’s the will of the people. (While speaking his true position in Spanish.)

He also (like, alas, Cruz) was an enabler on TPA/TPP, and he’s got the most Democrat-like tax position of any of the GOP candidates.

And I am beyond sick of candidates in either party trying to win votes by waxing poetic about their parents’ tough immigration or working class upbringing.

Spare me. I won’t vote for any candidates by accident of birth at either the top or the bottom.


99 posted on 02/07/2016 7:53:19 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

*pretend*


100 posted on 02/07/2016 7:53:43 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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