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ACA and Insurers Create More Barriers for Consumers
Townhall.com ^ | February 6, 2016 | Ken Blackwell

Posted on 02/06/2016 5:26:08 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/06/2016 5:26:08 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Working as intended.


2 posted on 02/06/2016 5:46:47 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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OOPS:
“ patients would have access to affordable”, high quality “care”.

There...fixed it....every dumble uses the term “high quality” in their obeisance to zerocare. ibid other instances.

[spit]

The bill is doing exactly what the dumbles want it to do: ruin the system so they can offer single payer as the way out....feel the bern yet?[I do...its like yesterday’s mexican food] he is already touting it.

just get rid of it root and branch...no we do not have to have a plan to replace it.


3 posted on 02/06/2016 6:00:01 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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Last week, UnitedHealth--the nation's largest health insurer--announced that it expects to lose more than $500 million through plans they offered under the ACA in 2016. Just yesterday, Anthem came out with disappointing fourth quarter earnings as well, citing Obamacare plans.

The intent of Obamacare was to hold insurance companies accountable, but it's done the opposite by allowing insurers to take advantage of this unworkable legislation and increase their profits at the expense of affordable care for patients.

Seems the author does not know which way he is going with this article.

First he indicates that ACA is a failure for the insurance companies then later he says that insurance companies are using ACA to rape consumers.

Personally I don't see why insurance companies would be getting out of the ObamaCare exchanges if they were making a killing from the law.

Sure insurance companies are going to raise prices and cut money losing products to maintain profits and reduce cost when they are bleeding red ink.

Why suggest that they doing something immoral when they are raising prices when they are losing money and who else are they going to raise prices on other than patients? Patients are the customers.

The law drives what the insurance companies do. Attack those that pushed the ACA monster through congress not those that must now try to make a profit under it.

I guess attacking insurance companies is genetically programed in to those that write opinion pieces.

4 posted on 02/06/2016 6:00:48 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Seems the author does not know which way he is going with this article.

First he indicates that ACA is a failure for the insurance companies then later he says that insurance companies are using ACA to rape consumers.


It is perfectly clear to him. It is you and I that don’t understand............................


5 posted on 02/06/2016 6:03:00 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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It’s bad now, Trump will take it further left.

Cruz has been consistent in his opposition to the ACA, he has not flip flopped on it, and has never held the leftist position on it.

Trump is not shy about what he plans to do about US healthcare.


6 posted on 02/06/2016 6:04:12 AM PST by lifeline (The Bible alone and in its entirety is the Word of God.)
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Yes, the ACA is working as intended. Instead of providing low cost health care, it's now providing NO health care.Of course, the idea is to create a demand for single payer health care in the unwashed masses. I don't think that idea sits well with those masses. They hate the politicians who gave them this monstrosity and then exempted themselves and staffs.
7 posted on 02/06/2016 6:06:33 AM PST by MasterGunner01 ( Barbara Da)
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Doctors, Hospitals, insurers, IT vendors, State Health Departments are all accountable, but not to the patients.

They are accountable to the CMS bureaucratic rules. Take IT, for example. IT is a rapidly changing field. CMS takes many years to develop its bureaucratic rules. These rules are developed by people with peripheral knowledge of client-server debacle in the early 90s and use that as their starting point in telling IT how it must develop new Healthcare systems.

Or take Doctors and Hospitals. CMS bureaucracy is not prepared to handle something “new” like Ebola or Zika. And the bureaucracy has a very antiquated view of Cancer.

Until the patient controls the healthcare money, the patient will not be the customer that others cater to.


8 posted on 02/06/2016 6:11:10 AM PST by spintreebob
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“government intervention encouraged insurers to offer poor quality plans and allowed them to impose even higher costs “

Ah, yes. The utopia of socialism.


9 posted on 02/06/2016 6:14:09 AM PST by fruser1
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Doctors, Hospitals, insurers, IT vendors, State Health Departments are all accountable, but not to the patients.

They are accountable to the CMS bureaucratic rules. Take IT, for example. IT is a rapidly changing field. CMS takes many years to develop its bureaucratic rules. These rules are developed by people with peripheral knowledge of client-server debacle in the early 90s and use that as their starting point in telling IT how it must develop new Healthcare systems.

Or take Doctors and Hospitals. CMS bureaucracy is not prepared to handle something “new” like Ebola or Zika. And the bureaucracy has a very antiquated view of Cancer.

Until the patient controls the healthcare money, the patient will not be the customer that others cater to.


10 posted on 02/06/2016 6:15:37 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: MasterGunner01

I believe as more and more people are removed from the tax base (between the high unemployment and McJobs), opposition to government healthcare will decrease; individuals no longer see themselves as paying for it, and just assume someone else will. The ghetto welfare mentality has spread widely throughout the population (hence Obama’s two election victories), and phrases like “personal responsibility” and “smaller government” are painted as radical for a population increasingly dependent on government for everyday matters.


11 posted on 02/06/2016 6:18:31 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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That’s funny; I read it as saying all the business practices they can implement this year, including higher rates and deductibles, are not expected to keep them from losing megabucks and likely to drop out altogether next year. I thought the tone regarding insurance companies was rather neutral, considering they , or so it has been reported, signed on with Obama to push the legislation through.


12 posted on 02/06/2016 6:19:59 AM PST by gusopol3
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——gaining profits for themselves while hurting consumers——

Bottom line..... Ken is antibusiness, socialist or communist

How did he get to write for TownHall?

Off with his head!


13 posted on 02/06/2016 6:20:56 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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IIRC, insurance companies were big supporters of ObamaCare because they thought they would bring in millions of involuntary customers through whom they could make money (as companies are designed to operate); what they apparently didn’t anticipate was just how unprofitable these new customers would be. While some people are opting out, others (with pre-existing conditions or at high risk) are more than happy to have their bills paid by “someone else”...


14 posted on 02/06/2016 6:24:54 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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Huh? Bottom line..... Ken is antibusiness, socialist or communist

And you are

15 posted on 02/06/2016 6:30:48 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Noumenon

Exactly


16 posted on 02/06/2016 6:31:44 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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Hey, he said it twice.

I am a real live businessman, unlike most here who are chained to salaried jobs

Businesses are for profits, not for consumers


17 posted on 02/06/2016 6:34:03 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: Adder
Now I am fixing yours

"patients would have access to unaffordable", high quality "care".

18 posted on 02/06/2016 6:37:51 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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Working as intended.

Yup.

19 posted on 02/06/2016 6:38:24 AM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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I thought the tone regarding insurance companies was rather neutral, considering they, or so it has been reported, signed on with Obama to push the legislation through..

Well neutral in a way or schizophrenic (of two minds).

I see it as the insurance companies are invited by the Democrats help write this thing and get it through or we write it and get it through without you.

One way you can influence the outcome the other you don't which way would you choose. Considering the makeup of congress and the executive at that time they didn't have much of a choice.

Of course there was AARP who was a true believer and one of the few that seems to be quite happy with the outcome.

20 posted on 02/06/2016 6:40:28 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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