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"Ted Cruz gave us Obamacare," says Donald Trump
CBS News ^ | February 4, 2016, 12:13 AM | Sopan Deb

Posted on 02/04/2016 9:58:03 AM PST by SoConPubbie

Little Rock, Arkansas Donald Trump, in a tit-for-tat with his chief rival coming out of Iowa, accused Texas Sen. Ted Cruz of bearing direct responsibility for the Affordable Care Act.

"Ted Cruz gave us Obamacare," Trump said at a Wednesday rally in Little Rock, Arkansas.

The line of attack invoked the landmark health care law that is anathema to many conservatives. Cruz, for his part, has accused Trump of supporting Obamacare, too, accusing Trump as holding the same position on healthcare as Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.

Trump's rationale for his claim is a little roundabout. It's based on the fact that Cruz supported John Roberts' nomination to be chief justice of the Supreme Court, which in turn led to the law being upheld twice before the court.

"[Cruz] pushed him. He approved him," Trump said. "And Justice Roberts approved Obamacare twice when it should have been rejected. His vote got it over the top. Ted Cruz did that."

Trump arrived nearly two hours late to the rally due to mechanical issues with his plane that forced his team to land what is colloquially coined "Trump Force One" in Nashville, Tennessee. He took a different plane to the rally.

"There was a minor mechanical issue and Mr. Trump traveled the rest of the trip in a small charter aircraft," said Hope Hicks, Trump's spokesperson.

The late arrival didn't dampen Trump's energy as he launched more attacks at Cruz, calling him "dishonest" in reference to allegations from another candidate, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson.

Carson has accused Cruz's campaign of trying to poach his voters by sending an email to Iowa voters claiming Carson was leaving the race, based on a CNN report that Carson would be absent from the trail and returning home for awhile. Cruz has since said that his staff should have sent a follow-up note to correct the first email. Trump wasted no time in trying to capitalize.

"I said how can they do that?" Trump said. "And everybody said, 'How can they do that?' And then he doesn't get the votes, Ben, but Ted gets the votes."

Wednesday marked a change in demeanor for Trump since Tuesday - from humble to angry. Trump posted a series of angry tweets, calling for a re-do of the Iowa caucuses, just two days after delivering a gracious concession speech in which he congratulated Cruz.

"He should just give it up and move on to New Hampshire," said 26-year-old Scott Tierney, after rolling his eyes. Tierney, a software salesman, from Conway, Arkansas, said he will vote for either Trump, Cruz or Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.

Others disagreed.

"I don't think he's a sore loser," said 42-year-old Kris Clayborn, a Trump supporter from Harrison - nearly a three hour drive away. "I know there was a lot of Democrat problems as far as the caucus. To see it on the Republican side doesn't surprise me."

In Arkansas, Trump spoke in front of the an arena that was slightly more than half full, even as Trump claimed it was a record crowd of more than 12,000. Trump may also have committed a college football faux pas - complimenting the University of Alabama's football team - an SEC rival - of Arkansas. The crowd booed.

The crowd was rowdy. One man roamed the floor at the Barton Coliseum wearing a black t-shirt that said "Obama Is A Terrorist" on the back.

While Trump shook hands on the rope line, a topless man with "T R" painted on his chest continuously tried to get Trump's attention. Another man wore a Denver Broncos bathrobe to the rally, to commemorate the Super Bowl. His name was Harrell Boyles and he also wore a pink tie with pigs on it under the bathrobe with a badge pinned to it that said "OMG GOP! WTF?" To complete the outfit, he wore American flag shorts.

Trump heads back to New Hampshire Thursday for four public events -- his first day on the campaign trail with four stops.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: attackbotsforcruz; cruz; cruzclowns; cruzingtohillary; donaldtrump; tedcruz; trump
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To: pookie18

“Did Cruz vote for Roberts?”

LOL! So you are going to tell me that he would have come out against him if he was there....even though he was a major endorser of him at the time? Please.


41 posted on 02/04/2016 10:14:31 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: SoConPubbie; All

It’s a fact! NO ONE ever heard of Roberts until CRUZ recruited his old friend! THIS is the kind of SCOTUS a pres. Cruz would pick.

The reason we are stuck with Obamacare, is TED CRUZ.

http://www.impulsetoday.com/breaking-ted-cruzs-pr-guy-who-slanders-trump-for-carson-lie-is-founder-of-shilling-company/

BREAKING: Ted Cruz’s PR Guy Who Slanders Trump for Carson Lie is Founder of Shilling Company
[snip]The company specializes in SIGINT, online shilling, and what might be called propaganda. Gabriel was the one who pushed the angle that Carson was dropping out. After being caught the agent deleted the tweets and denied everything. However, other twitter users took a screenshot and saved his tweets and their exchange.


42 posted on 02/04/2016 10:14:33 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: concerned about politics

Having made his donors happy with globalist votes, Cruz staged a talk-a-thon to an empty chamber in order to cover his real actions - so he could go forward with his pious run for president.


43 posted on 02/04/2016 10:14:59 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: VanDeKoik
“[Cruz] pushed him. He approved him,” Trump said. “And Justice Roberts approved Obamacare twice when it should have been rejected. His vote got it over the top. Ted Cruz did that.””

And he’s right. Cruz was a big pusher for Roberts. He’s close friend.

Yeah, like on a lot of stuff, Cruz uses the “Aw shucks, I just had no idea” excuse, but it’s still a fair thing to point out.

But yeah, we gotta protect Cruz for criticism.


I remember all the warning from the Donald at the time telling us how bad this judge would be. I remember Donald fighting against Obammacare every step of the way. Brian Williams told me all about it.
44 posted on 02/04/2016 10:15:46 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Copy and paste will only get you so far son. I'll bet you think Cruz stole the FR Caucus too.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Your being totally ridiculous.


45 posted on 02/04/2016 10:17:19 AM PST by Rusty0604 (1q)
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To: Trentamj; All

TED CRUZ is the reason we are stuck with Obamacare.

http://www.nationalreview.com/node/214989/print
http://www.nationalreview.com/node/214989/print

The Right Stuff
John Roberts should be a quick confirm.
By Ted Cruz — July 20, 2005
In 1995, while clerking for Chief Justice William Rehnquist, I and my two fellow law clerks asked the chief whom he thought was the best Supreme Court lawyer currently practicing. The chief replied, with a twinkle in his eye, that he thought he could probably get a majority of his colleagues to agree that John Roberts was the best Supreme Court advocate in the nation.
This week, the president announced his intention to nominate John Roberts to be a Supreme Court justice.
His nomination has been met with widespread praise, from left and right. Nevertheless, there are some who have raised complaints that his two years on the bench provide insufficient record for them to assess (and attack) his jurisprudence.
That complaint misses the mark for three reasons. First, his judicial record would have stretched 14 years, had Senate Democrats not delayed its consideration twice, in 1991 and again in 2001. When his nomination did finally make it to the Senate floor, in 2003, he was confirmed by unanimous consent.
Second, many distinguished jurists, such as Chief Justices William Rehnquist and Earl Warren and Justices O’Connor, Souter, and Thomas, similarly had very limited experience on the federal bench prior to ascending to the Court.
And third, although two years on the bench provides a limited number of opinions, he has a far longer record that is relevant: his professional career as a Supreme Court litigator.
At the outset, Judge Roberts is brilliant. A summa cum laude Harvard graduate, Roberts began by clerking for two giants of the bench, Judge Henry Friendly, and Chief Justice Rehnquist.
He then argued 39 cases before the Court, more than all but a handful of lawyers ever. And he has earned a reputation as a balanced, scholarly advocate.
When he stood at the podium, he was never oratorical or flashy, not given to waxing rhetorical. Instead, he was unflappable. His preparation was so extensive that-unlike many lawyers, who try to dodge tough questions from justices-he would simply stand and answer the hard questions one after the other, calmly and coolly addressing the most difficult obstacles to his case.
He didn’t always prevail; but, even in loss, his quick wit remained. As he observed to one unsuccessful client, aghast and asking why they had lost their case 9-0, he replied, “well, there are only nine justices.”
In November of 2000, I had spent the past year and half as domestic-policy adviser on the Bush campaign, and was part of the team assembling the lawyers to help litigate Bush v. Gore. We needed the very best lawyers in the country, and I called John and asked him to help. Within hours, he was on a plane to Florida.
Humble and soft-spoken, he was happy to be behind the scenes, writing and editing the president’s Supreme Court briefs. Midway through the recount, on November 28, John started heading out to return to D.C. Distraught, I asked where he was going-we were in the middle of enormous legal battle. Quickly, he replied, “I know, but I’ve got a Supreme Court argument tomorrow morning.”
He flew back to D.C. Tuesday night, argued a complicated trademark case Wednesday morning, and returned immediately to Florida to continue helping us represent the president.
Few, if any, other lawyers could have accomplished such a feat.
Judge Roberts is a lawyers’ lawyer. And that matters immensely, especially for the U.S. Supreme Court.
Some of the most storied justices in history, including William Howard Taft, Charles Evans Hughes, Thurgood Marshall, and Robert Jackson, came from similar experiences as experienced advocates at the highest Court.
The mainstay of Supreme Court justices’ work consists of complex, non-ideological cases, where rigorous analysis of precedent is at a premium.
With judicial nominees, the charge of “judicial activism” is much bandied about. Depending upon one’s perspective, what precisely constitutes activism is subject to debate. The simplest definition is whether a judge will substitute his own personal policy views for the clear dictates of the law.
But, figuring out the dictates of law requires diligent study of legal precedent-no easy task. And for that enterprise, decades of litigating experience, at the highest levels, is invaluable-because it trains the judge to read precedent exactingly, and because it engenders an approach that looks to law and not to personal predilection.
For that reason, Roberts’s particular personal views, which will no doubt be subject to extensive hermeneutic effort, matter far less than his judicial methodology.
Those trying to divine his personal views will likely look to his judicial service on the D.C. Circuit, often referred to as “the second-highest Court in the nation.” Three current Supreme Court Justices, Scalia, Thomas and Ginsburg, previously served on the D.C. Circuit.
One notable opinion was in Rancho Viejo v. Norton, where he would have granted rehearing to reconsider whether a panel decision was consistent with the Supreme Court’s federalism cases. In that case, a panel concluded that Congress had the constitutional authority to regulate California “arroyo toads,” deeming them within “interstate commerce.”
As Judge Roberts wrote in dissent, “[t]he panel’s approach in this case leads to the result that regulating the taking of a hapless toad that, for reasons of its own, lives its entire life in California constitutes regulating ‘Commerce . . . among the several States.’”
“[T]o be fair,” he added, “the panel [had] faithfully applied” D.C. Circuit precedent, but not Supreme Court precedent, which is why he felt en banc review appropriate.
Another opinion is Hedgepeth v. WMATA, a unanimous decision rejecting a constitutional challenge to the unfortunate arrest of a 12-year-old girl for eating a French fry in a Washington Metro station:
No one is very happy about the events that led to this litigation. . . . The district court described the policies that led to her arrest as “foolish,” and indeed the policies were changed after those responsible endured the sort of publicity reserved for adults who make young girls cry. The question before us, however, is not whether these policies were a bad idea, but whether they violated the Fourth and Fifth Amendments to the Constitution.

What is most notable about the opinion is not the result-all four judges who considered the case agreed on that-but rather the methodology whereby he arrived at that result.
As he did as a litigator, his opinion eschews his own policy preferences and instead rigorously reviews and applies the relevant legal precedents.
That’s exactly what judges should do.
Nevertheless, some activists have chosen to vilify Judge Roberts. The principal reed upon which they rely consists of fifteen words in a 1991 brief for the United States in Rust v. Sullivan: “[W]e continue to believe that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided and should be overruled.”
Of course, Roberts was writing that brief for the administration of former President Bush, and, as deputy solicitor general he was obliged to faithfully represent the position of his client. And, he won the case, 5-4, at the Supreme Court.
As his opposing counsel, Harvard Law Professor Larry Tribe, observed, “I like [John Roberts] a lot. I even liked him when he defeated me in [Rust], 5-4.”
As an individual, John Roberts is undoubtedly a principled conservative, as is the president who appointed him. He clerked for Chief Justice Rehnquist, worked in the Reagan White House, and served as the principal deputy solicitor general in President George H.W. Bush’s Justice Department.
But, as a jurist, Judge Roberts’s approach will be that of his entire career: carefully, faithfully applying the Constitution and legal precedent.
He is a mainstream judge, respected across the ideological spectrum. Thus, he’s earned praise from liberal icons such as Harvard Law Professor Larry Tribe, and Chicago Law Professor Cass Sunstein, as well as from Clinton Solicitors General Walter Dellinger and Seth Waxman, and Carter and Clinton Counsel Lloyd Cutler, the latter two of whom both described Roberts as a man of “unquestioned integrity and fair-mindedness.”
As Professor Tribe observed Tuesday night, “[i]t is clear that in the absence of some serious objection that is not now visible . . . he is very likely to be confirmed.”
The Senate should confirm him swiftly.
-Ted Cruz is the solicitor general of Texas.


46 posted on 02/04/2016 10:17:30 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Last time I checked, 0% of Republicans voted for it, and Cruz wasn’t even in the Senate at the time. So try again Trumpy boy.


47 posted on 02/04/2016 10:18:37 AM PST by Durbin
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To: VanDeKoik

That’s a ridiculous argument.


48 posted on 02/04/2016 10:18:47 AM PST by Rusty0604 (1q)
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To: concerned about politics

That’s all Cruz does is TALK!

Ted Cruz Failed To Disclose Ties To Caribbean Holding Company
An old college friendship led to financial entanglement with a Jamaican private equity firm and a British Virgin Islands holding company. Neither was disclosed during his 2012 campaign.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/18/ted-cruz-failed-to-disclose-ties-to-jamaican-holding-company/


49 posted on 02/04/2016 10:19:37 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SoConPubbie

The Coliseum manager and fire marshal came out before Trump had even arrived and announced that the all-time attendance record for Barton Coliseum (dating back to 1974) had been broken. The new record is 12,507.. the old record was 11,471.


50 posted on 02/04/2016 10:19:56 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: nickcarraway

Universal TrumpCare, no thanks.

Trump is not worth the risk on this. He seemed really passionate about it in has past statements.


51 posted on 02/04/2016 10:19:56 AM PST by lifeline (The Bible alone and in its entirety is the Word of God.)
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To: SoConPubbie

This will not stick to Cruz at all, because it isn’t believable.

Trump is getting sillier by the day.

Who the heck is advising him?


52 posted on 02/04/2016 10:19:56 AM PST by lifeline (The Bible alone and in its entirety is the Word of God.)
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To: concerned about politics

We know where Cruz stands, with conservatives.

Trump reverts back to his liberal positions quite easily, including attacking conservatives from the left.


53 posted on 02/04/2016 10:20:03 AM PST by lifeline (The Bible alone and in its entirety is the Word of God.)
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To: VanDeKoik

But he wasn’t there...& all the conservatives & Republicans who were there voted for him...& except for that one decision (& it was a big one), he’s been pretty much as advertised. Though I prefer Thomas, Scalia & Alito, Roberts has been a fairly reliable vote. With the next president making up to 4 SCOTUS nominations, I trust Cruz more than the Jimmy Carter-approved Trump...

https://grabien.com/story.php?id=47680


54 posted on 02/04/2016 10:20:11 AM PST by pookie18 (9 months until the general election...)
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To: SeekAndFind

BS, and you know it.

You need to listen to his answer with Hannity a couple days ago. This is not true! Here he explains he is against Obamacare, has to be repealed and he is not for single payer, but likes health savings accts.

http://trackingtrump.com/index.php/en/1026-the-sean-hannity-radio-show

Trump: “Obamacare is a total disaster”


55 posted on 02/04/2016 10:21:38 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, some of us did oppose the Judicial supremacist


56 posted on 02/04/2016 10:21:53 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: AuntB

[Ted Cruz Failed To Disclose Ties To Caribbean Holding Company]

Between this and “forgetting” to disclose his GS “loan”, I doubt his qualifications to remember his important tasks should he become POTUS.

Maybe he’ll “forget” that the red button launches the nuke weapons.....


57 posted on 02/04/2016 10:21:58 AM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: SoConPubbie

Trump can also blame George Washington for Obamacare, after all President Washington signed the Judiciary Act of 1789 creating the Supreme Court.


58 posted on 02/04/2016 10:22:52 AM PST by tlozo
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To: AuntB

NO ONE ever heard of Cruz until SEVEN YEARS AFTER Roberts was appointed to the Supreme Court.

Roberts was appointed to the Supreme Court in 2005. Cruz was elected to the Senate (his first elected office) in 2012.


59 posted on 02/04/2016 10:23:23 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
And that accomplished... what??

Nothing, but he was the only one that tried. It would have been nice had all the Republicans joined him. It would have made a greater impact on the people and urged them to be even more against what the democrats were about to do.
Cruz did all he could to warn Americans about obomacare - and even the stupid RINOs bashed him for standing up. We've all got to agree he was the only one fighting until the very end.

Trump, on the other hand, didn't think obomacare went far enough. Trump wanted health care nationalized. So who is the REAL boogie man here?

60 posted on 02/04/2016 10:25:03 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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