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Dear American Muslims, Can We Have An Honest Talk?
Townhall.com ^ | February 2, 2016 | John Hawkins

Posted on 02/02/2016 5:44:21 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: rlmorel

We had a Muslim school here for a while, paid for with Saudi money. But it went belly up after 9/11 when Muslims went back home because they were scared of reprisals.
Now the campus is a FourSquare Gospel center. Muslims here send their kids to Christian pre-schools.


21 posted on 02/02/2016 6:33:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

To colonize- take over the world for Islam..just as the Koran dictates


22 posted on 02/02/2016 6:42:26 AM PST by patriot08 (4th geneneration Texan (girl type))
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To: Travis McGee

need to read,,,,


23 posted on 02/02/2016 6:46:09 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Kaslin

Dear American Muslims, Can We Have An Honest Talk?

WITH A MUSLIM??????


24 posted on 02/02/2016 6:50:05 AM PST by JayAr36 (Political Correctness = National Suicide)
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To: IronJack; kearnyirish2; soycd; Travis McGee; OldSmaj; lakecumberlandvet; precisionshootist; ...

All Americans are rich, aren’t they?


25 posted on 02/02/2016 6:51:11 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin

On Sunday, my church had a multi-cultural event and had a Koranic scholar speak, from the pulpit no less.
He spoke about Shia versus Sunni (he was Shia), his sect of Shia, their views. Then he stated, “The Koran is only filled with peace, love and tolerance.”
I stood up and asked, “What about the 109 verses in the Koran calling for death to the infidel and make war on the unbelievers?”
I was ejected from the event with my son. My question asking him to explain the contradiction, which he didn’t even address by simply denying the bad 90% of the content, was considered worse than him lying from the pulpit.
And people are more mad at me for not being nice and sitting silent instead of standing for the truth.

But even many of these secular progressives see no issue white-washing the faith, denying the violent core or excusing everything bad done in its name instead of denouncing it.

I’d welcome a Muslim leader who says we need to reform Islam by divorcing the good parts from the bad by saying the warlord stuff was THEN and the good parts are now. Instead, the man denied the bad parts even existed. And the Christians were party to the “thou shalt not question Islam” mantra.


26 posted on 02/02/2016 6:52:54 AM PST by tbw2
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To: precisionshootist

“Close all mosques.”

Simple, it is called RECIPROCITY.....You don’t allow my holy book, my church to be bulit/exist in your country, I RETURN THE FAVOR !!!


27 posted on 02/02/2016 7:02:09 AM PST by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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To: Kaslin

‘... most American Muslims are good people; they’re anti-terrorist; they’re anti-Sharia law and they want to raise their families in peace and pursue the American Dream ...’

Which means they are not very good Moslems....


28 posted on 02/02/2016 7:06:17 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: rlmorel

What you need to evaluate is Islam not individual Muslims.

Islam teaches it is forbidden for a Muslim to be friends with a non-believer (Kafir) such as Christians, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists etc. except in deceit to further Islam. What the West calls radical Islam is really basic Islamic teaching on how to act as their prophet. Many Muslims are murdered by Muslims for their failure to act/live as their prophet did. Islam has a written goal of forcing ALL nations subdued under Islam. This is where so many Western and US leaders miss it (willingly or ignorantly) with Islam.

Islam also teaches that Muslims are to deal with (kill) apostate Muslims which are Muslims who have left Islam and Islam considers them worse than mass murderers. In Islam, Muslims must do as their prophet did to go to heaven. And he used Jihad of the sword to subdue people (murdering hundreds in a day) from his migration to Medina forward. He subdued all of Arabia (about 100,000 converts) in about 10 years. This is why so many seemingly mild peaceful Muslims eventually become violent. They have become exposed to Islamic teaching and must make a decision: to follow the prophet or not. The Koran, Hadith and Sira combined is about 60% political meant to run (ruin) the lives of non-Muslims or threatened by those acting as their prophet.

Per Islam, Kafirs (a non-Muslim and the lowest form of life and cursed by Allah) must submit by converting to Islam, becoming a slave (Islam has about 44 terms for different slaves) or die. In history, Islam accounts for about 25 Million African slaves officially ending in the 1960s (still occurring though as you read the news). Observers of the process of taking the African slaves estimated a 10:1 ratio of killed to enslaved: 250 Million killed to get the 25 Million African.

As I understand it, a dhimmi is a type of Kafir slave that has no civil rights and works to support Islam by paying the tax (can be 50% of income). In the West a dehimmi includes those who defer to Islam to not offend Muslims and are apologists for Islam. There is no golden rule in Islam like there is in nearly all other “religions”: Islam treats “good” Muslims one way and all other people another.

An American scientist used the scientific method to study and break down the components of Islam: with many informative short 2-5 minute videos covering the analysis:

http://www.politicalislam.com/author/

A running tally of the known violent crimes Muslims do for their prophet: last week 36 attacks, 365 killed, 425 injured, 12 suicide blasts, 12 countries involved.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

World news articles by a former Muslim Brotherhood terrorist (warning he does not pull punches and the pictures of what Muslims do are graphic at times and not what main stream media usually allows):

http://shoebat.com/


29 posted on 02/02/2016 7:11:34 AM PST by SetFree (American)
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To: Kaslin

"And finally, that Truth is great, and will prevail if left to herself,
that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the
conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons free argument and 
debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Statute_for_Religious_Freedom

"...in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of it's protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and infidel of every denomination."

From Ã¢â‚¬Å“Thomas Jefferson, July 27, 1821, Autobiography Draft Fragment,” page 538

http://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommaterials/connections/thomas-jefferson/history3.html

Woman Raised Muslim Drops Truth About Islam 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKkckaZO4fw

 


 

30 posted on 02/02/2016 7:12:01 AM PST by HLPhat (Preventing Global Cooling one tank full at a time!)
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To: Kaslin
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Personally, I think most American Muslims are good people; they're anti-terrorist; they're anti-Sharia law and they want to raise their families in peace and pursue the American Dream just like everybody else. I condemn in the strongest of terms, not just hate crimes and harassment, but the smearing of all Muslims with the same brush. Every Muslim who seems like a nice guy isn't engaging in Taqiyya as he secretly plans to kill the infidels. Moreover, telling Muslims who mean us no harm that if they understood their own religion, they'd be murdering the rest of us is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

That is all happy talk of non-consequence.

A moderate Muslim in the West is someone who is not following true Islam. They are like gnats on the windshield of the truckbomb that is true Islam.

The misdeeds of the 99% always tarnish the moderate 1%!

Forty Christian churches burned in Egypt, and not one word from those "moderates" - they are too cowardly, they do not share our values and in fact will roast marshmallows on the burning churches that their co-religionists ignite. Frankly, their religion seeks the violent overthrow of America and San Bernarino, Boston, Philadelphia, FT Hood, Times Square, Chattanooga, Lackawanna, Ft Dix...these precursor attacks go on and on. Stirring enmity, revolt, violence and a "flourishing" cult of death. Their violence automatically surrenders their First Amendment right! Even after San Bern, the CAIR rep on TV blamed America's actions overseas. What about the Muslim attacks in the Philippines, Thailand, China, Indonesia, India.....what have those countries done overseas to deserve their Muslim onslaught. Sorry - I am not buying their dissembling. They are in a murderous cult and the moderates will not admit it, and therefore are part of the problem.

Moderate Muslims may be people you can live with, but they do not speak for Islam, and in fact many are afraid of the psychos running the mosques. Unfortunately, violence works and that's why Charlie Hebdo said no more cartoons. They were beaten into silence. America cannot be beaten into silence.

When Pam Geller and Robert Spencer had their Muhammad drawing contest in 2015 - two jihadis showed up with rifles. Since it was in Texas a traffic cop dispatched both of them with a handgun! Don't mess with Texas, and don't mess with America.
31 posted on 02/02/2016 7:23:10 AM PST by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: Kaslin
I think most American Muslims are good people; they're anti-terrorist; they're anti-Sharia law and they want to raise their families in peace and pursue the American Dream

Then they're not Muslims. Either you believe in the Koran as it is written or you don't.

Oh, and from what I have seen, they are anti-terrorist until they are terrorists.

Like a pit bull. Gee, its wierd. He never did that before.

32 posted on 02/02/2016 7:24:24 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting , knitting, always knitting.)
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To: grobdriver

That he was Turkish is an indicator. Former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl was unapolgetically opposed to allowing Turkey to enter the EU because it is not a Christian country and despite the best efforts of Kemal was too Muslim. He foresaw this very thing occurring in slow motion because of the reluctance of Turks born in Germany to assimilate. Unlike Merkel he was also a German nationalist who did not hesitate for a moment to annex the DDR. He did not, of course, anticipate the difficulties of assimilating a German population that had been brainwashed for forty years by a socialist system. But Is Merkel so stupid that she can think that if it has been so hard to assimilate Germans that it will even be possible to assimilate people who are utterly alien?


33 posted on 02/02/2016 7:25:41 AM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: super7man

It is a bit like people with gay friends. They think they know them but have no clue about what they are like when with people of their own kind.


34 posted on 02/02/2016 7:32:30 AM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Kaslin

American muslim? Now that is a paradox. Muslimes only have one allegiance and it is not to our constitution.


35 posted on 02/02/2016 8:05:39 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: RobbyS

Yup.


36 posted on 02/02/2016 8:22:20 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting , knitting, always knitting.)
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To: Kaslin

“Unfortunately, we have proven to be completely incapable of telling “moderate” Muslims from “radicals”

Nonsense. The radicals wear belt bombs. The moderates use IEDs. Most muslims in this country currently don’t kill people. But, they all tithe and I’ll bet their mosques funnel some donated money to organizations that do.


37 posted on 02/02/2016 10:44:28 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: rlmorel

Try this approach:

NEVER! EVER! TRUST! A! MOSLEM!


38 posted on 02/02/2016 5:17:22 PM PST by Taxman (H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.)
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To: Kaslin

My proposed solution to the Moslem problem is:

1. Declare Islam a terrorist organization.

2. Round up EVERY MOSLEM living in America and send them back to the shithole country they came FRom!

3. American citizens who have converted to Islam will get a choice of which shithole Islamic country they wish to be sent to.

4. Destroy every Mosque in America.

For starters!


39 posted on 02/02/2016 5:22:18 PM PST by Taxman
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To: Kaslin
Moreover, telling Muslims who mean us no harm that if they understood their own religion, they'd be murdering the rest of us is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

But it is reality.

If they mean us no harm they will choose to become something other then mohammedan.

40 posted on 02/02/2016 5:30:42 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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