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Vanity | January 27, 2016 | Behind the Blue Wall

Posted on 01/27/2016 2:23:47 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall

In all of this hubbub about Trump's choice to pull out of the Fox News debate, I think it's useful remember just how deceitful and mendacious Megyn Kelly's attempt at a "kill shot" on Trump was.

After the initial attempt to torpedo him with the "party loyalty pledge" issue, here was Trump's first debate question of the 2016 Presidential campaign, asked by the supposedly "fair and balanced" Megyn Kelly:

"Mr. Trump, one of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don't use a politician's filter. However, that is not without its downsides, in particular, when it comes to women. You've called women you don't like 'fat pigs,' 'dogs,' 'slobs' and 'disgusting animals.' ...

Your Twitter account has several disparaging comments about women's looks. You once told a contestant on 'Celebrity Apprentice' it would be a pretty picture to see her on her knees.

Does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president, and how will you answer the charge from Hillary Clinton, who was likely to be the Democratic nominee, that you are part of the war on women?"


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; ailes; celebrityapprentice; demagogicparty; election2016; fox; foxnews; kelly; megynkelly; memebuilding; newyork; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; partyloyaltypledge; trump; vanity
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It's worth reflecting IMHO on the multiple levels of wrong embedded in this question. First, Mrs. Kelly knew of course that this was to be America's first look at Trump as a Presidential candidate. The main themes of his campaign have been jobs, immigration, trade and foreign policy. How exactly is his years-old Twitter-feud with Rosie O'Donnell or an even older and entirely obscure comment made during his 14 seasons as host of the Apprentice in any way relevant to those issues?

Second, to get into the weeds of the particular referenced comments, obviously if you're having a particular issue with one woman, that says nothing about what you do or do not think about all women, so the Rosie O'Donnell quote is completely asinine. And the random quote for the Apprentice, when the video from that was played back, there was obviously a whole context there that at the time nobody batted in eyelash about. In other words, maybe it's relevant if it was something that caused a stir at the time, but to drag it up when nobody at the time thought any of it is just so far out of bounds.

But the worst, worst thing about Mrs. Kelly's egregious abuse of her role as a supposedly neutral arbiter is her reference to the entirely and overtly partisan "War on Women" meme. Nobody except extremely partisan Democrats thinks that Republicans are waging on war on women, so to have it brought up and reinforced by a "moderator" of a Republican debate is just the height of duplicity.

It should be obvious to everyone that Kelly is using her current gig as a stepping stone to bigger and better things on network television, and collecting Trump's scalp would be the ultimate calling card for her in that quest. That Fox News is allowing her to crap all over their network is somewhat surprising . . . until you understand the relationship between the GOPe, Chamber of Commerce, etc. and Fox.

Trump would've IMHO been fully within his rights to have declared then and there that he was never going to participate in another debate with Megyn Kelly as the moderator, or even with Fox News as the producer. Given what's transpired between then and now, I think he's just that much more justified in doing so.

1 posted on 01/27/2016 2:23:47 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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And truth is anyone else would have done a slow bleedout and be gone now from that first shot... as Rush stated at the time.. this was Stephanopoulos to Romney, war on women, setup question... ..

but instead of Trump being long gone and forgotten....the question is long gone and forgotten

2 posted on 01/27/2016 2:36:25 PM PST by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans Patriot%s are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Very astute point by point analysis.


3 posted on 01/27/2016 2:37:52 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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Thank you for reminding us of the disgusting “ question” raised at debate#1 by M. Kelly. There is not a man in America and precious few women, I suspect, who would want any further professional contact with that woman.


4 posted on 01/27/2016 2:37:53 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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Good job-agree completely.


5 posted on 01/27/2016 2:40:27 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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6 posted on 01/27/2016 2:40:51 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! I reallyRead it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: tophat9000

Yes, I still marvel at the “only Rosie O’Donnell!” interjection by Trump. That was a pitch perfect redirection from generic “women”, who they might’ve been in the minds of the views themselves, or their wives, daughters, mothers, etc., to a very specific ugly, fat, and rude woman. The fact that he managed to do that before she even finished the question is all I needed to know about the quality of that man’s mind. Brilliant!


7 posted on 01/27/2016 2:43:20 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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You left out Kelly’s reporting that Trump’s first wife had accused him of rape. It was this later-retracted piece of “reporting” that preceded Megan’s attack on Trump in the debate.


8 posted on 01/27/2016 2:45:54 PM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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Great point!


9 posted on 01/27/2016 2:46:22 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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People also forget January 4th when Megyn Kelly accused Trump of trying to woo her.

On that by itself she should have been taken off as debate moderator.


10 posted on 01/27/2016 2:48:23 PM PST by Fhios (FR inception date 2015. I must be a mole for whoever I'm currently supporting.)
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True . . .


11 posted on 01/27/2016 2:49:58 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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12 posted on 01/27/2016 2:58:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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I saw that and actually wasn’t really bothered by the question and thought it was not so terrible. I think what’s going on now is a bit of an over reaction.

Trump’s answer to the two part question should have been 1) the temperament is fine. I just am not politically correct. (and on to his general statements about how pc is screwy) 2) when the dems say war on women, I’ll say it is they who have the real war on women because (litany of lib hypocrisy).

So yes, I agree w/you that the question was unfair, but I don’t agree that it was so bad (I’ve seen far worse over the years) that it merits this response. It would’ve been better to pull that card out for something much more egregious.


13 posted on 01/27/2016 2:58:49 PM PST by fruser1
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FLASHBACK: Ronald Reagan Skipped Last Debate Before IA Caucus---Went on to Win in Landslide
14 posted on 01/27/2016 3:02:10 PM PST by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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Yes, it was like the DNC wrote the question for her.

That’s been my thought exactly about not just Kelly, but also Fox and the rest of the MM.

Trump should use this situation to broaden what he’s saying about the media treatment of him.


15 posted on 01/27/2016 3:03:06 PM PST by Faith Presses On (Make this Unborn Children and "The Center for Medical Progress" Awareness Week)
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RNC had announced in late October that it would pull out of the NBC debate over the conduct of CNBC moderators during the third GOP debate in Colorado.
16 posted on 01/27/2016 3:04:09 PM PST by newfreep (TRUMP & <S>Cruz</S> 2016 - "Evil succeeds when good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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Great post! Thanks for this.


17 posted on 01/27/2016 3:06:47 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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Were those Trump’s statements? Yes. Is the ‘war on women’ a dominant theme for Clinton? Yes. What’s the problem with the question? Nothing.

The fact that Trump feels it was unfair to be asked about his own statements shows a disconnect from reality. If he doesn’t want to be questioned about his statements, perhaps he shouldn’t make them. If he is willing to own his own statements, he should not mind in the least answering questions about them.

Storming out of a debate in petulant temper tantrum because the world does not bend to his every whim over a perceived slight that didn’t exist demonstrates he does not have the temperament to be president.

In his own words, Trump could be described as a loser.


18 posted on 01/27/2016 3:11:04 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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Walking away from a bad deal isn’t a sign of weakness.


19 posted on 01/27/2016 3:15:41 PM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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Poor Trump. We should all feel sorry for him because he is afraid to face questions from a sexy woman. Yes, it is true that she asked stupid questions...and gives speeches in her questions. But that is true of most panelists and moderators. It is even true of some of the rival candidates.

What does it say about a candidate who can’t handle the heat in the kitchen?


20 posted on 01/27/2016 3:24:30 PM PST by spintreebob
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