Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Homosexuals can change
World Magazine ^ | 1/23/16 | CALEB KALTENBACH, DENNY BURK & HEATH LAMBERT

Posted on 01/23/2016 3:10:05 PM PST by SoFloFreeper

Two books relate how grace and the power of the Holy Spirit can overcome same-sex attraction

Caleb Kaltenbach's new book, Messy Grace (WaterBrook Press, 2015), has a tantalizing subtitle: How a Pastor With Gay Parents Learned to Love Others Without Sacrificing Conviction. Kaltenbach states that "profound change is just as possible for a homosexual sin as it is for any other"-but it has to come through grace. Kaltenbach argues that Christians should emphasize a change of heart, and let that change then influence minds (and use of sex organs). It seems to me that churches should welcome but not affirm gays, so I found Kaltenbach's thinking useful.

I also found Denny Burk and Heath Lambert's argument in Transforming Homosexuality: What the Bible Says about Sexual Orientation and Change (P&R Publishing, 2015) helpful in debunking the myth that change is not possible for those struggling with same-sex attraction. The authors use Scripture to show how the same power that resurrected Jesus from the dead can lead to moral change. Just like Kaltenbach, Burk and Lambert believe, "This is just as true for same-sex attraction as it is for any other sin."

(Excerpt) Read more at worldmag.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bookreview; exgays; faggots; homosexualagenda; redemption; religion; sexuality; truth
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last
FYI.

I fear that if the moral degradation of this nation continues, the truth spoken in these books will be banned.

1 posted on 01/23/2016 3:10:05 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper
Homosexuals can change

Which proves that it is a choice, not genetics.

2 posted on 01/23/2016 3:14:24 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper
It's amazing that some people actually believe a baby can prefer sex with other men from the womb...


3 posted on 01/23/2016 3:16:28 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

How terrible that if a misguided one makes a terrible decision about gender and then is never allowed to return to normal once they realize their delusion?


4 posted on 01/23/2016 3:19:03 PM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Yes, if ones’ sexuality cannot change, then why are homos always trying to recruit?


5 posted on 01/23/2016 3:19:45 PM PST by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

Are you saying that liberals contradict themselves? Say it isn’t so!


6 posted on 01/23/2016 3:22:00 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
The following list of queers have no intention of ever changing and trying to become normal.

Rachel Maddow, Gina McCarthy, Rosie O'Donnell, Michelle Rounds, Annise Parker, Elena Kagan, Christine Quinn, Kim Catullo, Tammy Baldwin, Barbara B Crabb, Jennifer Goodstein, Glennda Testone, Alexandra Hedison, Ellen DeGeneres, Portia di Rossi, Sara Gilbert, Linda Perry, Lily Tomlin, Jane Wagner, Suzie Orman, Kathy Travis, Meredith Baxter, Nancy Locke, Lauren Blitzer, Chely Wright.

7 posted on 01/23/2016 3:25:25 PM PST by Mr Apple (NO TO ALL ISLAMIC TOWEL HEAD MUSLIM RAPEFUGEES IN HALLOWEEN GOWNS !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Mr Apple

I don’t recognize all these names, but some of them are the kinds that the American people really like.


8 posted on 01/23/2016 3:29:32 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Mr Apple
"...have no intention of ever changing..."

How can you know that?
There are plenty of people that thought Saul of Tarsus would be a Christian-killer until the day he died - how did that turn out?

Are you saying that God cannot change their hearts? That there are limits to Grace, and thus to God?
What Bible have you been reading?

9 posted on 01/23/2016 3:35:35 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

My guess: given the Olbergfell ruling, the US government will soon rule that it is illegal to tell a ‘gay’ person that they can repent. It is just the excuse the Federals need to prosecute Christians and Jews.


10 posted on 01/23/2016 4:10:06 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

The current mayor of NYC married a militan lesbian and had kids with her...


11 posted on 01/23/2016 4:37:24 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

Anybody can change.
If you have high cholesterol are you going to continue eating fried foods and salt?

The human heart is depraved beyond comprehension. The real reason is sin, which nobody wants to address due to their “pride”.

Good luck with that before a Mighty & Holy God.


12 posted on 01/23/2016 5:08:00 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Which proves that it is a choice, not genetics.

This article proves nothing. How gullible are you?

Some people are born with an attraction to the same sex -- most are not.

Why are you compelled to judge the ones different from you? There seems to be plenty in your soul that needs work -- stop worrying everyone else's.

13 posted on 01/23/2016 5:10:15 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: BfloGuy
You can find numerous cases of gays changing. They are not "born with an attraction to the same sex" as you claim.

"I just can't wait until I'm big enough to bone other dudes in the pooper!" said no baby ever


14 posted on 01/23/2016 5:17:40 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

The thing that is often missed when people talk about anyone changing out of a sinful lifestyle is that we must acknowledge that we are dead in Christ. Lifestyle has to do with self identity. When we become Christians we are dead to our old sin nature and risen with Christ into a divine nature. We are alive with Christ. When sin rears it’s ugly head we must acknowledge that it is no longer us but our dead sin nature that is trying to resurrect itself. This is not who we really are anymore. Forever and ever we are and will be aligned with Christ. This is who we really are. Not the filthy, sinful, carnal nature that is trying to make us think it is us. As we acknowledge constantly that we are dead with Christ and risen with Him as new creatures the power of The Holy Spirit will be released in our lives to live through us. It is through this truth that we are set free. It is through understanding who we really are in Christ and identifying with Him rather than the dead sin nature.

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me. And the life which I now live in the flesh, I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.


15 posted on 01/23/2016 5:38:44 PM PST by Bellflower (It's not that there isn't any evidence of God, it's that everything is evidence of God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BfloGuy

What exactly are you trying to say?


16 posted on 01/23/2016 5:39:15 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower

when we are saved we get a new nature, but the old one isn’t gone.

we fight against it every day. it is the old adam and it’s there every morning. has to be fought against every day. if not true we wouldn’t need the armor of God anymore.


17 posted on 01/23/2016 5:44:58 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: BfloGuy

Those who think they are born with an attraction to those of the same sex are likely plagued with unclean spirits of homosexuality. When someone is the abode of an unclean spirit it hides behind the self. It makes the one it lives itself out in think that it is that person. Once the person fulfills it’s bidding and begins to have perverted sex than that person’s physiology becomes turned over in many ways to homosexuality. Soon the person is “tuned” physically, emotionally and spiritually to fulfill sinful dictates. He or she than identifies themselves as a homosexual. In the beginning they were a person who was plagued with a demon that pretended itself to be that person. That person needed deliverance. Also when someone is molested by a homosexual not only is their physiology changed but also unclean spirits of homosexuality have been passed along to them. They need spiritual deliverance and to realize that they weren’t born with homosexuality but were duped into it. They need to accept forgiveness and new life through Jesus Christ our LORD and learn to live by The Spirit and not the flesh, recognizing it to be dead and buried with Christ.


18 posted on 01/23/2016 5:55:07 PM PST by Bellflower (It's not that there isn't any evidence of God, it's that everything is evidence of God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man

Of course we need the armor everyday. An important weapon we fight against the old nature with is the truth, The Word of God. The truth is that the old nature is dead and we are alive in Christ. We need to learn to identify with Christ and let His Spirit live through us. We are not impotent victims without recourse to our old nature but we must learn to pick up our cross and follow Jesus the living and risen LORD. We do not live out the flesh because it is dead to us. The Bible tells us this. Spiritual battles are won by knowing and standing on truth. When Jesus was tempted He fought back with the truth of God’s Word, the sword of The Spirit. We must learn to stand on truth and wield the sword of The Spirit. The battle begins with knowing and standing on truth. We have to be careful not to use the flesh as a crutch and excuse to see ourselves as helplessly under the power of sin.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Philemon 1:6 That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.


19 posted on 01/23/2016 6:15:59 PM PST by Bellflower (It's not that there isn't any evidence of God, it's that everything is evidence of God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Actually, I don't think it proves that. Other disorders like autism, ADHD, bipolar disorder, major depression and schizophrenia, are genetically influenced, and yet one can choose what to do with that: to indulge it, to resist it, to try to moderate its expression, to "manage" it, learn to live with it, medicate it, whatever. The same goes for inherited personality traits: have a sanguiine, or melancholic temperment, tending toward being laid-back and mellow, or impatient, or full of nervous energy, etc.
20 posted on 01/23/2016 7:32:46 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("When you're through learning, you're through." - Will Rogers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson