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Article V status report.
This is scary. WTH are they thinking. Sometimes even conservatives suffer radicals and fools among them.
It’s as though no one knows that once the The United States Constitution is opened for discussion, in a Convention of States, that all sides have standing and rights to slash and burn any or all articles, to add and subtract from the great document.
There is an unknown outcome, beginning at the drop of the gavel and virtually no guarantees our little nitpick gets the vote when the universe voting is both Left and Right, ISLAMIC representation and CHRISTIAN.
Yikes. Beware what we wish for, when Pandora’s Box is finally opened.
If the current path we are on remains towards BIGGER government, no matter which party takes the executive branch in 2016, it makes it all the more imperative to get an Article V amendment convention going into full swing.
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The Convention of States rhetoric is overly simplistic since they know that most supporters of a constitutional convention rely on the words of admired conservative leaders topped off with little time for doing their own independent research. This is unfortunate since they are being deceived.
Like the first convention in 1787 any future convention could exceed the authority of its commission.The below information shows this occurred in 1787.
A Century of Lawmaking for a New Nation: U.S. Congressional Documents and Debates, 1774 - 1875. Farrand’s Records, Volume 3 Pages 13&14
Page 13
I. Resolution of Congress.
1787, February 21.
Whereas there is provision in the Articles of Confederation & perpetual Union for making alterations therein by the Assent of Congress of the United States and of the legislatures of the several States. [continued on next page below.]
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Page 14
Resolved that in the opinion of Congress it is expedient that on the second Monday in May next a Convention of delegates who shall have been appointed by the several states be held at Philadelphia for the sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation.
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They obviously exceeded their commission since they gave us a whole new constitution.
In the Articles of Confederation Article XIII, there is no provision for item specific, or general subject matter amendments, or for delegate restrictive rules. The States, Congress or any outside influences never attempted to impose any restrictions on the convention. The same is true for Article V contrary to what some advocates for a second constitutional convention say.
The new Constitution gave us a whole different mode of ratification from,”confirmed by the legislatures of every State,” to only 3/4’s of the States needed to ratify any proposed convention amendments.
Articles of Confederation Article XIII ...nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a Congress of the United States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.
http://tinyurl.com/AoC-Art-XIII
Should a second convention be convened, it could give us the proposed Constitution for the NewStates of America where the States are replaced by federal regions and through Article XI any proposed amendments come by way of a judicial council and need the approval of a dictatorial president.
http://tinyurl.com/NewStates-Const
As seen below, the 1787 Convention made it own rules and Article V by its lack of direction like the Articles of Confederation, Article XIII leaves it up to the convened convention delegates to make convention rules and not as some Article V advocates profess.
A Century of Lawmaking for a New Nation: U.S. Congressional Documents and Debates, 1774 - 1875. Farrand’s Records, Volume 1. page 14 McHenry. Philadelphia 14 May 1787. Convention. Second para.
The convention appoint a committee to prepare and report rules for conducting business which were reported, debated, and in general agreed to on the 28th.
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A Century of Lawmaking for a New Nation: U.S. Congressional Documents and Debates, 1774 - 1875. Farrand’s Records, Volume 1. page 15. Tuesday, May 29, 1787. Journal. paras. 5-9.
rules.
That no member be absent from the House so as to interrupt the representation of the State with out leave.
That Committees do not sit whilst the House shall be, or ought to be, sitting.
That no copy be taken of any entry on the journal during the sitting of the House without the leave of the House.
That members only be permitted to inspect the journal.
That nothing spoken in the House be printed, or otherwise published, or communicated without leave.
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