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In Defense of Ted Cruz’s Quip About “New York Values”
Redstate ^ | 1/16/16 | Josh Hammer

Posted on 01/16/2016 1:45:38 PM PST by TBBT

As a born-and-raised New Yorker finishing up law school in the Midwest before getting ready to permanently take my oversized cowboy boot collection and Gadsden Flag paraphernalia down to Texas later this year, I want to chime in on the “New York values” feud from last night’s Republican Presidential debate. If you did not see this particular part of the Ted Cruz v. Donald Trump brawl, here you go.

The media, being Acela corridor-centric, has naturally tended to take Trump’s side. And yet, as my friend Harry Enten notes at 538, an April 2015 YouGov poll showed that more Republicans (49 percent) said they had an unfavorable view of New York State than said they had a favorable one (38 percent). The Cruz campaign is already fundraising off of the New York Daily News’ shameful front-page cover this morning—a cover, ironically, which itself helps prove Cruz’s underlying point. Indeed, it hardly seems at all obvious that this exchange will end up helping Trump or hurting Cruz on the ground in Iowa, in South Carolina, and in the March 1 “SEC Primary.” But I nonetheless want to put out a few thoughts of my own.

Notwithstanding Trump’s shrewd obfuscation of the underlying critique by nostalgically reverting to Rudy Giuliani 2008 campaign-style braggadocio, everyone listening knew exactly what Ted Cruz meant when he lambasted Donald Trump for exuding “New York values.” This line of attack quite clearly has neither anything at all to do with individual New Yorkers—many of whom are proud conservatives, and even some of whom I know to be close confidantes of Cruz himself—nor anything at all to do with the truly heroic actions of N.Y.P.D. and F.D.N.Y. first responders on September 11, 2001.

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To: justiceseeker93
Not all Jews attack Ted Cruz over New York values
41 posted on 01/16/2016 3:29:03 PM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasementof Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: tenthirteen
The differences are much more than style. Cruz has been a small government advocate since he was first a teen. He believes in the God of the Bible and the rule of the Constitution. He has promised to rid the country of Obama-care, the IRS, DOE, and overturn every one of Obama's executive orders. He has opposed the uni-party collaboration of Mitch McConnell, been the most vocal opponent of the Iran deal to fund terrorism, a loud voice against persecution of Christians and the degradation of morality. Yet the constitution does not speak to the issues of gays or of abortion, so he opposes the court rulings that codified them. He takes money from gays so what? DO you think that he views it like Trump does, donating for favors? Christians view homosexuals as sinners who need Christ and repentance just like we do. It is liberals that want to quarantine Christians, not the ohter way around.

Trump if you take him at his word, which is a foolish thing to do, likes big government, would keep Obama care and the IRS; he just want to negotiate a better deal with Iran. He was for abortion before he decided to run as a republican, he still enjoys the gay parades and claims to be a christian who does not need forgiveness. He brags about using graft in a corrupt city and feigns outrage when those values are questioned. He has declared bankruptcy 4 times divorced 2 after affairs and changed parties at least twice. He has praised Pelosi, Obama and Hillary. He works with unions in his construction business and so is opposed to free market labor.

The contrast is stark. One a life long liberal the other a life long conservative. One a campaign christian of one of the most liberal mainline demonstration the other a conservative baptist Christian first Christian. One bullies others and makes fun of the disabled and unattractive, the other is criticized for being too lawyerly. One has a record of keeping his word the other for changing his word. Neither is perfect but they are different in philosophy and the country will be very different depending on which one wins. NY de Blasio values or gun-toting liberty.

To put a slogan to the difference: To end Washington corruption - vote for Cruz!

To send Washington corruption - vote for Trump!

42 posted on 01/16/2016 3:31:32 PM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: justiceseeker93

Whoraldo is a moron who has kissed the posterior of anti Semites like the feculent Al Sharpton..


43 posted on 01/16/2016 3:39:04 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: justiceseeker93; BillyBoy; sickoflibs
Believe it or not, some TV and radio pundits based in New York are trashing Cruz's "New York values" line of argument as anti-Semitic. These include Geraldo Rivera (no surprise there) and former Reaganite economist Larry Kudlow.

Easily to believe where Jerry Rivers is concerned, he's pathetic. But Kudlow? Fail.

44 posted on 01/16/2016 3:41:06 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Baynative

I thought I had seen it all and then you posted that.


45 posted on 01/16/2016 3:50:40 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: Vaquero
LOVE IT !!!
46 posted on 01/16/2016 3:56:12 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: Vaquero
I lived in Connecticut before Giuliani. I remember friends being wiped out by Dinkins Bond defaults. They sure cherry pick their pride for NYC to the time of the RARE republican stint. DiBlasio is the new David Dinkins. Watch out below New Yorkers!
47 posted on 01/16/2016 4:11:15 PM PST by BillM (.)
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To: TBBT

Ted was 100 percent right about this.


48 posted on 01/16/2016 4:12:53 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: DaveyB
NY Values are to cry 9-11 when someone points out you are a rude liberal.

Donald’s cheap exploitation of 9/11 offended me.

49 posted on 01/16/2016 4:13:47 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: DaveyB

It’s neither responsible nor irresponsible. Failure can happen. ‘Good’ businesspeople can fail in spite of their best efforts. Although things have deteriorated quite a bit in recent years- like situations with Solyndra. (That seems like it was actually a scam rather than a good faith effort to engage in and grow a business)

It’s become increasingly common for people to exploit bankruptcy since at least the 1980s (Remember the S&L bailouts?) but considering Trump’s many successful businesses & his personality, it seems highly unlikely that he had a cavalier attitude about them.

What Cruz did was reckless and indicated poor judgement, personally- which could predict his behavior in business or as a president, but it’s actually even more than that. Both Goldman Sachs and Citi received TARP bailouts (taxpayer money), IIRC. The taxpayers could conceivably end up footing that bill if he defaulted.

No, Cruz wouldn’t be defaulting to subcontractors or employees- hopefully anyway, but since when is running for public office a business?

Tell me. When a person starts a business, the object is to build it up & profit from it. How does that work when the ‘business’ is a political career & the source of that person’s income is the taxpayers & the connections that the average business owner doesn’t have? Does that seem right to you? Is that something the Founding Fathers had in mind?


50 posted on 01/16/2016 4:20:14 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: tenthirteen
Cruz will never win NY

Cruz was never going to win NY, or any of the Yankee NE states anyway... And the rest of the country heard him just fine.

51 posted on 01/16/2016 4:20:38 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: KGeorge
You know what this tells people? It tells people that Cruz has a hot temper, that he has poor impulse control, that he doesn’t think before he acts, & that he lashes out at people who have nothing to do with the person he’s angry at. He doesn’t even consider the consequences to himself. I don’t know about anyone else, but I call that volatile & unstable. *I* wouldn’t hire him. There’s no telling what he’d do.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh, this is some kind of Trump projection-by-proxy!!

52 posted on 01/16/2016 4:24:30 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

:-) The irony.


53 posted on 01/16/2016 4:28:23 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: justiceseeker93

“It turns out that the percentage of New York city’s and New York State’s population that is Jewish has been on a downward spiral for 50 years.”

They retired to Florida


54 posted on 01/16/2016 4:47:02 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: justiceseeker93

Totally gay argument, Kudrow, et al.


55 posted on 01/16/2016 4:59:00 PM PST by Phinneous (She-yibaneh beis hamikdash bi-m'heirah v'yameinu v'sein chelkeinu b'sorahsecha.)
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To: TBBT; libbylu

I guess you mean “Hear, hear!_


56 posted on 01/16/2016 5:12:37 PM PST by firebrand (Take care of your own state before you go jumping on NY)
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To: be-baw

RedState. What do you expect?


57 posted on 01/16/2016 5:15:01 PM PST by firebrand
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To: GeronL

You don’t understand loving your hometown and having loyalty. People who hate New York don’t have a clue.


58 posted on 01/16/2016 5:20:16 PM PST by firebrand
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To: TBBT

Scumbags like whore-aldo are trying to whip up a leftist Jewish fear of a combination of Evangelicals AND conservatives.

I left my synagogue (and ended my no charge, volunteer IT support of their computer systems) due to the rabbi’s rabid anti-gun (and other leftist) views (guess what I think about Obama and his and the angry wookie’s decision to raise their children as members of “The Church of Hatred and Racism” of reverend Wright.)

Far too many Jews have fallen into the trap of actually believing that the government will protect them. It never worked in Europe (even to this day,) it didn’t work in Czarist Russia, and it didn’t work in the USSR. The only place is the USA, and it’s the Constitution that’s protected Jews all these years in the USA, NOT the government.

But as we watch the government, and FAR too many people, reject the Constitution, those protections will end. I’ve read that the fastest growing religion in the USA is islam. That doesn’t bode well for Jews in the US, and quite frankly, the Jews are the “canary in the coal mine” for Christians as well.

Mark


59 posted on 01/16/2016 7:48:50 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: DaveyB
Amen! "Remebuh Noin Elevin" is the new Godwin's Law. Anyone on this site who defends "New York Values" should turn in their conservative card. Narcissist York (my home state) needs to grow a pair and Cruz only did himself a disservice in terms of his already low position in enemedia, all of which (including faux news) is headquartered in NYC.

Cruz won't win New York, Trump won't win New York, Bush won't win New York. The 2016 demographics of the stay are way stacked against any remotely conservative candidate.

60 posted on 01/16/2016 7:54:46 PM PST by Clemenza (Lurking)
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