Posted on 01/16/2016 5:43:11 AM PST by MikeSteelBe
De Oppresso Liber? We Shall See
This is addressed first and foremost to the entire U.S. military, but especially to the military Special Operations Command and community. Secondly, it is addressed to federal LEOs, and especially to their SRTs, such as the FBI HRT (many of whom are former military special operations). This comes from combat arms and special operations veterans, along with veteran Sheriffs and police officers, within the Oath Keepers organization:
Critical Warning:
The Ammon Bundy led occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon must be handled as a normal, non-crisis, law enforcement matter, and preferably by Oregon Sheriffs (who are organized as the Oregon State Sheriffs’ Association), and their deputies, together with the local community there in Harney County, OR. The locals can resolve this, if given enough time. The Oregon Sheriffs can resolve this, if given enough time.
This situation must not be handled in a military or paramilitary fashion, using military assets, military rules of engagement, or otherwise attempting to end it suddenly by use of dynamic assault, resulting in catastrophic loss of life, as has occurred twice in recent American history, with horrific results (at Ruby Ridge in 1992, and at Waco Texas in 1993). If you do it “Waco†style here, you risk pushing this nation over the edge into a civil war, because there are “no more free Wacos.â€
This is not an emergency situation, unless you turn it into one. Ammon Bundy’s occupation of an empty building is essentially the same as civil-disobedience sit-ins that the political left has engaged in for decades, from anti-war and civil rights protesters in the 60s and 70s (including a nineteen month occupation of Alcatraz by American Indian activists), to Occupy Wall Street Movement and Black Lives Matter activists today.
These ranchers, cowboys, and veterans just happen to be armed, as westerners tend to be. Get over it. There are no hostages, there are no close-by neighbors at risk, there is nobody there except those who want to be.
So tread lightly, and at most handle this like the Montana Freeman standoff, where the FBI was patient and waited them out, with a peaceful surrender coming after eighty one days. In this situation, the locals will likely have this resolved long before that length of time. Regardless, there is no rush.
Despite that reality of there being no emergency here, we have very good reason to believe that ideologue leftist bureaucrats within the Obama Administration – such as within the D.O.J., and their politically minded “perfumed prince†puppets within the D.O.D. – are pressuring you to prepare to use military assets and military rules of engagement to conduct a dynamic raid. We are an organization of current serving and retired military, police, fire-fighters and other first responders, and we have contacts at every major military installation in America (including Joint Base Lewis-McChord), and at the Pentagon. We hear things. We’ll just leave it at that.
And we know that the Obama Administration considered the use of military force during the Bundy Ranch standoff in April, 2014, pursuant to Directive No. 3025.18, “Defense Support of Civil Authorities.†Fortunately for all Americans, they decided not to do it. This fact was confirmed by a May 28, 2014 Washington Times article:
A U.S. official said the Obama administration considered but rejected deploying military force under the directive during the recent standoff with Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his armed supporters.
From Inside the Ring: Memo Outlines Obama’s Plan to Use the Military Against Citizens.
So, the military force hammer was, in fact, on the table during Bundy Ranch, as we suspected. Please don’t try to tell us it’s not on the table again, now. We know it is. The only question is whether the Obama Admin leftist weenies will be foolish enough to try to actually use it, and if they do, whether you will be foolish enough to obey their idiotic orders and obediently act as that hammer.
In addition, it is clear you federal LEOs have not handled this in the normal law enforcement manner of cordoning off the area and immediately initiating negotiations. Why is that? Why has there yet to be even an attempt to open direct lines of communications between you and Ammon Bundy, as members of Pacific Patriot Network, Idaho III%, and Oath Keepers on the ground in Burns, OR have been repeatedly urging you to do for the past week, to no avail?
Don’t do it. Do not follow unlawful orders if the Obama Administration fools decide to go “full retard.†No matter how eager the politicians like Harry Reid are for Ammon Bundy’s head, after the black eye Ammon and his family gave them at Bundy Ranch in 2014, and no matter how much they pressure you to “make an example†out of these guys, you cannot drop the hammer on a bunch of ranchers, cowboys, and veterans sitting in an empty building without it blowing up in all of our faces. Treat this with kid gloves, like the Montana Freeman standoff, instead of like the Waco standoff, or risk setting off a civil war.
The stuffed-shirt, pencil necked metrosexuals inside the D.C. beltway will not be the ones bleeding and dying in the chaos that could follow (at least not at first).
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Guys like this, in D.C., won’t be the ones who will bleed (not at first).
It will be you current serving military and LEO, and it will be us patriotic veterans, along with our many active duty brothers who still take their oaths seriously (and we are truly everywhere, including within your immediate ranks) who will bleed. It will be the warrior class of America killing each other while the political hacks laugh (they hate you too, don’t you know).
As SGM Joseph Santoro (Ret), Oath Keepers BOD member, and our National Operations NCO put it, while on the ground in Harney County, OR:
I served 25 years in the U.S. Army infantry and EOD, and retired a Sgt. Maj. I also served five years as a Contractor at the 10th Special Forces Group and three years as a Contractor at the U.S. Army EOD School. I know the military, and I know they are watching this closely, just like they watched Bundy Ranch, and this [pointing to the land] is where most of your trigger pullers come from. Most are country boys who have seen first hand the abuses of their families by the BLM, the EPA, activist judges, etc. They are not stupid. They have seen logging, ranching, mining, and farming assaulted and shut down in little towns all around this land.
And if you Feds get froggy here and smoke a bunch of ranchers and veterans who are justifiably pissed off at what is being done all over the West, you will have active duty warriors climbing up your backsides with extreme prejudice. And us veterans climbing down your throat. That’s not a threat. Just a fact.
So tread lightly, and don’t tread on us.
You are on notice that THERE ARE NO MORE FREE WACOS, as Mike Vanderboegh, Founder of the III% Movement puts it.
You can read his heartfelt open letter to the U.S. military (and to all of us) here. And one by an SF veteran here. And below is a video of part of SGM Santoro’s statement at a press conference at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge on Tuesday, January 12, 2016:
Oath Keepers members are on the ground in Burns, OR as part of the Pacific Patriot Network lead “buffer†operation to try to prevent another Waco type incident, to encourage open dialogue and peaceful resolution, and in support of the release of Dwight and Steven Hammond from prison, pressuring Obama to use his power of clemency to commute their sentences and then pardon them. While all the groups in this coalition disagreed with what Ammon did, we all agree with the broader cause of respect for the rights of the people in the West, and we agree that there are no more free Wacos.
The Right Way and the Wrong Way
The Federal government has a spotty record when handling things like this. It handled the American Indian occupation of Alcatraz well, letting it go on for nineteen months, during which support for it dwindled. It handled the Montana Freeman Standoff well, letting that go on for eighty-one days, till they surrendered. But it screwed up big time at Ruby Ridge and Waco, with dead women and children as the result.
During the Ruby Ridge incident, a fourteen year old boy, Samuel Weaver, was shot in the back and killed by U.S. Marshalls, and his unarmed mother, Vickie Weaver, was later shot in the face and killed while holding her baby. Vickie Weaver was shot by the notorious FBI HRT sniper, Lon Tomohisa Horiuchi (a West Point Graduate and former Army officer), under “shoot on sight†military rules of engagement orders issued to the FBI HRT that were later ruled to have been illegal.
At the Waco Texas Branch Davidian standoff, military training facilities were used to prepare the BATF to conduct it’s unnecessary dynamic assault on the Davidian communal family church/home which they knew was full of women and children, to serve a simple search warrant. The BATF also requested training by U.S. Army Special Forces (who were resistant to providing such training). The local sheriff had conducted searches in the past without incident, and could easily have done so again, and the BATF could have easily detained David Koresh during one of his routine jogging sessions and then conducted the search, but instead the BATF insisted on a needless massive paramilitary assault, with agents in full battle-rattle pouring from cattle cars and immediately shooting all the Branch Davidian dogs, including puppies, within the first seconds of the raid. That is an idiotic way to begin the service of a search warrant, to say the least. The result was a massive fire-fight with dead on both sides, as the BATF sprayed thousands of rounds into a building with children inside.
The FBI then carried out a siege of the compound, and instead of dialing it back and doing it right, the D.O.J. and FBI doubled down on stupid. And Delta helped. Delta Force Commander, then Col. William G. “Jerry†Boykin, actually “advised Attorney General Janet Reno on what kind of gas to use to end the Federal Government’s standoff†with the final assault on April 19, 1993 that ended in a deadly fire that killed scores of women and children. Delta Force was there. FBI HRT was there. And it was hell on earth for those innocents as they died.
After the flames died out, the FBI agents lost no time in raising the ATF flag over the charred bodies of children and then posed, smiling, for group victory photos in front of the burnt ruins. And you wonder why so many Americans hate you? (and Boykin went on to become Commanding General, U.S. Army Special Forces Command (Airborne), Ft. Bragg, NC).
The result was the galvanization of patriots across America to form up militias, and to swear that there will never again be a “free Waco.†We agree, and therefore we warn you to do this right, no matter what the Obama Admin overlords try to demand. Do it right, or risk starting a conflagration so great, it cannot be stopped, leading to a bloody, brutal civil war. And do it right, because it is your duty to refuse those orders, under your oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And that includes the domestic enemies now “occupying†Washington D.C.
Special Forces, it is time to go back to your roots and live up to your motto. Your countrymen are now the oppressed. And it is time to remember your soldier’s creed. Each of you is an American soldier, a “guardian of freedom and the American way of life.†Your brothers in heaven are watching. Do the right thing. Stand down, and refuse to obey evil, ghoulish sociopaths who salivate at the prospect of watching Americans die on camera, like they watched during Benghazi.
Tell them that if they want American patriot blood, they need to strap on a plate carrier, chest rig, and an M-4 and go do it themselves.
For the Republic,
Stewart Rhodes
Founder and President of Oath Keepers, on Behalf of All Oath Keepers
Civil War 2? Uh, no.
~~Not as long as people have jobs to attend, mortgages on their homes, payments on their new trucks to make and soccer practice for the kids........ ~~
And Netflix, HBO, Showtime, etc.
“This situation must not be handled in a military or paramilitary fashion, using military assets, military rules of engagement...”
You are absolutely correct! That was why I didn’t even finish reading the article but had to check and see if I would be double posting. Petraeus rules of engagement would be disregarded. Why?
Because both of the groups within the conflict are...Infidels. Let ‘em have at it.
Oregon, not Benghazi, Obama?
The author is not and was not SF qualified. He was a contractor as a civilian with the 10th after his 25 years in the Infantry. If this was from the SOA (Special Operations Association), the SFA Special Forces Association President and other elected officers (not one SFA chapter) or from Professional Soldiers.com and endorsed by the members it would be meaningful.
It is a rather weak false flag if it were one.
I haven’t followed this situation other than to see that a few people think they can raise awareness by these actions.
The typical fat-a$$ American who may have “guns” but can’t run a mile without dropping is really a scary thing to the elites LOL....
Besides, it’s NFL Playoff weekend. And somebody else nailed it. We’ve got games, beer and prostitutes to attend to.
What Civil War?
I briefly joined OathKeepers until I could no longer tolerate their paranoia and anti-Semitism.
I briefly joined OathKeepers until I could no longer tolerate their paranoia and anti-Semitism.
Kind of confusing. The OP was attributed to Rhodes, the founder of OK. But within the OP it also published the letter by SGM Joseph Santoro.
Neither appear to have been SpecOps.
Rhodes:
Following the family tradition, Stewart joined the Army straight out of high school at age eighteen, attending Basic, AIT and Jump School at Ft. Benning, GA and then serving as a paratrooper (11B1P Airborne Infantry) stationed first at Ft. Bragg, NC and then at Ft. Lewis, WA, where he served in a long range Airborne scout company for the 9th Infantry Division until disabled in a rough terrain parachuting accident during a night jump. (jump #36!)
SGM Joseph Santoro is as you note according to all I could locate on google.
Does not diminish the message for me.
Obama can’t wait to leave office. No way he wants to stay and take credit for the coming economic crash.
Exactly. I’m from Texas and I see “Secede” bumper stickers all the time. CW2 or secession isn’t happening until the government checks stop coming. There are too many CONSERVATIVES who have pensions or retirements and SS. They will not raise their rifles til the milk goes dry. Some may beforehand but not enough to accomplish anything.
I truly hope that Obama and his henchmen take this warning seriously. However, they have invested a lot of time, energy and money into putting their machine in place. I don’t think that Obama will give up his dream of “transforming” America because it’s the dream of his backers as well and they are much more formidable and dangerous than probably most of us want to admit.
Whether we keep or lose our nation depends on a lot of things. It’s been mentioned on here that there will be no war as long as people have their sports, Netflix, etc. and that is exactly right. Nations have fallen before in history because the populace simply didn’t want to face the fact that saving their way of life meant defending it on a personal level and sometimes with force, the same as they would if a criminal entered their home and threatened their family.
I’m praying that the agents of destruction that Obama has put in place throughout the whole structure of this nation will heed the warning that’s been given but it’s not likely that they will. As the letter says, they won’t be the ones fighting and dying.
The ordinary, working class citizen needs to heed this warning carefully as well. If Obama has his way, you will most certainly not keep your comforts and what few freedoms you have left to you. Those were won for you by the blood of America loving patriots in other wars. If your children and grandchildren are going to have any of them or a country in which to enjoy them; then the possibility must be faced that we might have to fight for them just as our parents and grandparents did.
On the other hand, the general public may choose to put their faith in our corrupted processes of government and that their Netflix, sports, etc., just may be granted to them if they’re good little lackeys.
Punch this into your favorite search-engine:
burns +oregon site:sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com
for a summary of Vanderboegh’s writings on it.
I don’t have the information at hand but there were friendly fire casualties amongst the trigger happy, pistol wielding, feds.
Unless they are so far in debt that such an event would serves to wipe the slate clean. Everybody likes “free” stuff!
Thanks TM
..”the ROE for our military fighting ISIS and the Taliban are much more restrictive than the ROE of Ruby Ridge and Waco on American citizens.”
Of course it is. It is an inverted system to destroy our military and demoralize the people in the USA for the Marxist takeover. We have a bunch of traitors running all three branches of our government today.
There is a culture war going on and it is Good v. Evil (Freedom v. Slavery). We should never allow taxpayer money to fund tyranny like it does with the jackboots/BLM and other ABC agencies and federal take-over of State land. Just “forts and ports”—that is ALL the Feds can trespass upon. Otherwise, it is LOCAL control of this issue. FBI is not needed; these are patriots who love the Constitution.
It has ALWAYS been the FEDS who are ejecting the Constitution to create “crisis” for decades. They are nothing but jackboots and need to be OUT of the State. They are NOT needed. “Terrorists” are muslim or BLM, but the Truth is ejected by Marxists. Our government actually funds the real terrorists, and try to sneak them into the country and all the small towns throughout America for their “crisis” management schemes. Actually—they don’t even have to hide that fact anymore-—the populous is so dumbed down.
In the Fed’s inverted world, Up is Down, Vice is Virtue and Men are Women. They are mostly irrational “bots” of NWO sodomites. They eliminated all the moral Christians, in both the military and the government, to create their Brownshirts (exactly like the homosexual Nazis and homosexual Bolsheviks)—people who are so immoral, they love Janet Reno’s (the lesbian) evil, vile, satanic methods of child torture and killing.
Satanism is always about child-killing, sodomy and torture. And they loathe moral, masculine, Christian males who won’t submit and bend over for their lusts. Narcissists and vile people like our CIC who give the orders are salivating at killing the above patriots. They are like the sodomites in Hollywood who Feldman was referring to—who drugged the little boys and girls for their orgies and would get violent if the boys refused. They are pure evil.
That is my premise as well. Nothing will happen until there is nothing left to lose.
Hah!
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