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Ted Cruz Didn’t Disclose Loan From Goldman Sachs for His First Senate Campaign
New York Times ^ | January 13, 2016 | Mike McIntire

Posted on 01/13/2016 3:50:20 PM PST by Alter Kaker

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To: Texicanus

Uh, ya better read back. The Internet makes a great witness Tex.


261 posted on 01/14/2016 12:06:25 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Texicanus

Btw Tex it works like this, you asked me a question and I answered it. I then asked you a question @ #256 which you evaded.

This is not complex Tex.


262 posted on 01/14/2016 12:08:51 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RedHeeler

It’s just a crazy idea that gets passed around down here from time to time by the natives.


263 posted on 01/14/2016 12:55:32 AM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: dragnet2
This is not complex Tex.

No, it's very simple. I have nothing to add to this conversation which you started.

264 posted on 01/14/2016 1:01:06 AM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: SteveSCH
mostly self funded and liquidated his assets

So, obviously, you do not understand the word "mostly". Look it up in Google or on Yahoo search and be educated. He did do the things he stated, MOSTLY self-funded and liquidated his assets. A loan IS self-funding, you doofus.
265 posted on 01/14/2016 1:35:41 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Mark Levin is currently ripping this leftwing attack as complete garbage---"ohhhh, look, he took out a big loan from a big bank!"

Levin is lying to his listeners. Cruz was supposed to disclose this to the FEC, he didn't. He will likely face fines and an investigation as a result. It also contradicts his narrative about selling his assets and all his savings and being funded by regular people. Cruz didn't do any such thing.

266 posted on 01/14/2016 2:11:18 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Covenantor
How does one repay a loan that large? What was the collateral?

His soul. Goldman Sachs has it in a bottle somewhere in one of their vaults. It's glowing and talks. Cruz doesn't miss it.

267 posted on 01/14/2016 2:12:17 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
So they missed one report.

They missed the one report that matters, the one that explains what the loan was for, what were its terms and a copy of it, and how it was used. Cruz has never told anyone, not even his voters, that he didn't liquidate his assets like he claimed, but instead funded his campaign with loans up to a million dollars.

268 posted on 01/14/2016 2:24:11 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: SmokingJoe
Do you understand “mostly”?

Cruz never claimed he only "mostly" self-funded. He claimed he self-funded and used his savings and assets. It was all lies though. Heidi Cruz is even quoted contradicting the story Cruz tells in front of audiences.

269 posted on 01/14/2016 2:26:18 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

His soul huh?
You mean like how Trump sold his soul to the mafia in New York long ago?


270 posted on 01/14/2016 2:57:21 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Alter Kaker
I was looking at the margin loans offered by Schwab.
The interest rates for a margin loan seem to be a lot higher than what Cruz obtained - 3%. The NY Times article says the rate is in-line with this type of loan. I wonder if they really checked out the going interest rate.

http://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/investing/accounts_products/investment/margin_accounts
$250,000-$999,999.99 Base Rate + 0.25% 6.75%

I don't think it's going to matter what we say on FR. He either broke the law or didn't break the law. This will be investigated.

271 posted on 01/14/2016 3:03:36 AM PST by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: Alter Kaker

So I should be concerned about this over the millions the democrats have raped America for?!? Pffff!


272 posted on 01/14/2016 3:35:58 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Alter Kaker
I got bit by a squirrel once.

Yawn

273 posted on 01/14/2016 3:44:28 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: eartick

So that explains it!


274 posted on 01/14/2016 4:12:13 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Sen. “Goldmann Sachs” Cruz is a lying scum,
a true member of the lying GOP,
who voted for SECRET ObamaTRADE’s vote,
allowing it, ONLY because he had
a SECRET financial reason ..... beyond his wife.


275 posted on 01/14/2016 4:13:57 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Alter Kaker

This loan is because of a relationship. It implies a lot about Cruz voting.


276 posted on 01/14/2016 4:31:44 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Shadow44

I don’t let Cruz supporters stop me from vetting him. And you should not let Trump supporters stop you either.

Trump really admired Goldman Sachs back in 2008. They don’t ‘own’ him [a huge PLUS that he’s self owned], but this is a good time and place to address this....

Copy of Rush transcript BTW. For those who think that Rush is too close to Trump? Think again. Rush calls it like he sees it ...

Trump, Goldman Sachs, and the 2008 Bailout:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/09/26/donald-trump-on-700-billion-bailout-plan.html

[snippets ...]

If you did not spend hundreds of billions of dollars on a yearly basis on the war, and if we got oil down, or if somebody knew how to speak to OPEC the proper way, the hard way, the tough way, so that oil would be down to $50, instead of $150, and now it is dropping, and, as I always say, all over the world, you have ships, tankers loaded up with oil.

There’s so much oil, people don’t know what to do with it. And, yet, because of OPEC, that is the story. It is very sad. But, if we got rid of this war, and if we got oil down, this country would be unbelievable.

[snip - already thinking about ‘Art of the Deal’]

TRUMP: On your show two years ago, I really, I mentioned the word depression then. [2006 he predicted a huge downturn?]

[snip]

So, wouldn’t this be a more expensive version of that?

TRUMP: It could very well be.

The fact is, nobody knows what is going to happen. The day it is passed, maybe things go to hell anyway. Nobody really knows what is going to happen. But, psychologically, people want it to happen. And, if you have the right people running it and that is the big question, but, if you have the right people running it, you can make a lot of money. You can take over companies, and, frankly, take big chunks of companies. If you loan this money the way Goldman Sachs perhaps used to loan money, or whatever, you would have, I think you could make some phenomenal deals.

CAVUTO: Well, you have done some phenomenal deals in down in soft times. There is talk here about getting some sort of an economic czar in either a Republican or Democratic administration. Would you ever be interested in that?

TRUMP: Well, it is not something I exactly have thought of. I love the real estate business. I love what I’m doing.

But, if you got the right person in there, they would take that money, and you would double it, triple it, quadruple it. And then you would sell those companies back in good times. But, when they go into this fund, you have got to take a very, very big pound of flesh.


277 posted on 01/14/2016 5:00:24 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (1000 muslim migrant gang-rapists in Germany -- Trump helped trigger protests.)
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To: Alter Kaker

So what. I have a loan with Wells Fargo and I feel no obligation towards them. A loan is a lot different from a donation.


278 posted on 01/14/2016 5:02:32 AM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: SaraJohnson

‘We really have to pull together, even while supporting either Cruz or Trump ...’

Right. And ...

BOTH men must be vetted, preferably before the Straw Poll. And certainly before New Hampshire.

We all need to be a little ‘detached’ from all politicians here.


279 posted on 01/14/2016 5:02:46 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (1000 muslim migrant gang-rapists in Germany -- Trump helped trigger protests.)
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To: MNDude

‘totaling $960,000 into his Senate campaign ...’

Undisclosed — secret.

Not good.

..............

Now to balance the criticism ...

.............

What I like about Cruz ...

Cruz: ‘We Need Quite A Few Constitutional Amendments’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3381654/posts

“Ted Cruz: Trump Will Let Deported Immigrants Back In, I Won’t”
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3379878/posts

Cruz Against Big Ethanol
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3381754/posts

Top of the food chain in the legal community and legislative experience.


280 posted on 01/14/2016 5:05:11 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (1000 muslim migrant gang-rapists in Germany -- Trump helped trigger protests.)
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