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Wal-Mart workers on pistol patrol as law lets Texans tote guns
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/wal-mart-workers-on-pistol-patrol-as-law-lets-texans-tote-guns/ar-AAgqIY5?li=BBnb7Kz ^ | 1/6/2016 | Lauren Etter and Shannon Pettypiece

Posted on 01/06/2016 2:47:33 PM PST by saleman

Managers at Wal-Mart stores in Texas have a new task to add to their list of duties: asking customers if they have a permit to carry a handgun.

To comply with state liquor rules, the world’s biggest retailer sent a written notice last month to stores that sell alcohol, telling managers to ensure that customers who openly carry firearms under a new law have licenses. Cashiers or door greeters who see someone with a gun are to alert the highest- ranking employee, who is to approach the customer and ask to see the paperwork.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; texas; walmart
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To: saleman
"It's not illegal for someone to ask you anything. Well pretty much anyway"

That may be, but what happens when they confront a person who refuses to show the paperwork, or says they don't have it with them? How will Walmart guarantee that their managers will be able to ascertain whether the paperwork is legitimate or not? Is Walmart going to back their managers if a situation gets out of hand, and there is always the potential for that happening. Having been a Peace Officer for 25 years, and having had to carry a weapon at times for my job, I think having civilians perform this duty is bad policy.

61 posted on 01/06/2016 5:26:01 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: TheMom

In Texas the 51% law is for on premise consumption only. Off premise and whole sale liquor sellers have a completely different license than on premise restaurants and bars. For off premise consumption locations concealed and now open carry is perfectly legal I carry at specs all the time the signs clearly state the unlicensed possession of a weapon is a felony. With emphasis on weapon which in Texas does not mean just a firearm illegal knives are weapons, so are blackjacks, tomahawks, and any knife longer than 5.25 inches all are felony weapons in a off premise store.


62 posted on 01/06/2016 5:27:42 PM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: saleman
"Oh, you can. But it has to be unloaded, in a locked compartment, out of reach of occupants. Which kinda precludes the glove box."

And how many FBI agents have "allegedly" had their weapons stolen from their cars? Seems like it's a regular occurrence with them these days.

63 posted on 01/06/2016 5:29:24 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Well color me confused. All of the liquor stores in my area at the 51% sign in their door ways.

The owner of my locally owned liquor store and I have quite often admired each others firearms. (Am sad to report that he just sold his store ~ sure gonna miss that guy) When doing the comparison admiring, he made sure nobody else was in the store ~ said that me carrying in his store was illegal. (But appreciated that he had back up if needed)


64 posted on 01/06/2016 5:59:32 PM PST by TheMom (This is how horror movies start.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

You’re right. I misread it.

But you can’t transport in passenger compartment without a cpl.


65 posted on 01/06/2016 6:03:38 PM PST by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

You’re not missing anything by stepping into a Walmart anyways.

It is their loss...but their rights as well.


66 posted on 01/06/2016 7:11:03 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

No.

They have NO right to see my permit.

Yes.

They can ask me to leave.


67 posted on 01/06/2016 7:16:50 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Get Ready)
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To: TheMom

totally improper signage, in those stores someone should report them to TABC. From the Texas TABC: these are the legally required signs for on and off premises consumption licenses.

https://www.tabc.state.tx.us/laws/sign_requirements.asp

A liquor store is no different than a grocery or gas station in off premises consumption licenses. I spent a number of years working with TABC in the bar industry doing plain clothes sting operations and bar spying, my old unit when not working for the US A.G. had a number of TABC agents on our joint taskforce.


68 posted on 01/06/2016 10:42:38 PM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: humblegunner
You’re more than welcome to never set foot in Texas.

You are absolutely, 100% correct - and I won't, for no other reason than I can't open carry in TX!

69 posted on 01/07/2016 7:26:00 AM PST by dware (Everybody wants to be a patriot, until it's time to do patriot stuff.)
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To: mass55th

Having been a Peace Officer for 25 years, and having had to carry a weapon at times for my job, I think having civilians perform this duty is bad policy


Well......yeah.


70 posted on 01/07/2016 8:36:56 AM PST by saleman
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Yes...I agree on both :)


71 posted on 01/07/2016 8:44:17 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: TheMom

It is only a crime to carry in 51% or over stores if you do not have a permit. This has been the law for many years. 51% alcohol sales and stores (bars) that have on premise consumption have different rules. This may or may not change now?


72 posted on 01/07/2016 9:42:01 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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