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Josh Earnest: ‘Wouldn’t Be Surprised’ If Opponents Try to Tie Up Gun Control Legislation in…
Cybercast News Service ^ | January 4, 2016 | 3:24 PM EST | Melanie Hunter

Posted on 01/05/2016 4:51:00 AM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai
...the reason the president is taking these actions is because Congress has utterly failed in their responsibility to do so...

Wrong, again. Congress has no such responsibility. True, Congress routinely does stupid things. However, pursuing ineffective and un-Constitutional legislation is not a responsibility.

Everyone, and I mean every single person with an IQ higher than their thermostat setting, who spends more than 30 seconds actually thinking about "gun control" and crime in the US realizes so-call "gun control" laws are worthless in terms of protecting the public.

Anyone who bothers to read the Constitution, or even just the Bill of Rights realizes that virtually every single "gun control" law is in fact un-Constitutional. The phrase "shall not be infringed" is crystal clear on this matter.

21 posted on 01/05/2016 6:08:56 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Olog-hai

There is no “executive authority” to enact legislation of any kind. If a president can’t persuade Congress to enact legislation, then he’s stuck. That’s how this Constitution thingy is supposed to work.


22 posted on 01/05/2016 6:14:14 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Olog-hai
In other words
WE know it is unconstitutional and will be in the courts but at least it gives the impression to his followers that he is doing something
23 posted on 01/05/2016 6:15:07 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Olog-hai

‘Obama using his executive authority to enact gun control legislation’

THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ENACT LEGISLATION.....PERIOD. REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS, GROW A SPINE AND STOP THIS DICTATOR, NOW!


24 posted on 01/05/2016 6:15:24 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: meadsjn

And then followed by a trial in a criminal court, and then a nice hanging.


25 posted on 01/05/2016 6:21:35 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: bert

“he is no longer protected by the law having transitioned from president to dictator”

That is exactly how it should be treated and screw going to the courts.

Obama wants a civil war but he wants it on his terms where the “right wing extremist” are seen as being in rebellion against the govt. of the US.

Give him his war but on our terms. He is the one in rebellion against the govt of the US.

Congress simply has a vote to declare all Obamas unconstitutional EOs null and void and he will cease and desist and he will enforce the laws as written.

By refusing to cease and desist he, Obama, will declare himself in open insurrection against the govt. of the US.

Anyone that continues to support the jug eared clown will declare themselves in open insurrection against the govt of the US, including members of the military.

VP Biden assumes the power of the Presidency unless he supports Obama, then the power of the Presidency goes to the Speaker of the House Ryan.

This is where the 2nd Amendment and “well regulated militia” comes in.

Congress then calls forth the militia, the people, to suppress the rebellion against the govt. and remove the jug eared clown and any and all of his supporters in the insurrection from positions of power.

The governors of the states then send representatives of the militia to arrest Obama and his supporters.

Obama supporters want to put up a fight, President Biden or Ryan then has command of the military and can use the military against them.


26 posted on 01/05/2016 6:23:38 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Olog-hai

Admitting the obvious that this WILL be tied-up in court for the next 12 months.

Just a bone being tossed in the direction of frothing-at-the-mouth Liberals.


27 posted on 01/05/2016 6:25:36 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’m not sure how tied up in the Courts this will be. Right away, anyways.

Fighting this in the courts requires standing. That means people who are arrested and tried for violating the EOs. That means ATF setting up for and conducting sting operations.

Just getting to the point where someone with standing gets their day in court is going to take time. Going through the appeal process following a conviction up to the Supreme Court will take time as well.


28 posted on 01/05/2016 6:32:06 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Olog-hai

I object to the term “legislation” in the title.
It’s not in any way being “legislated” by elected representatives of the people or states.


29 posted on 01/05/2016 6:34:08 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: dead

“I wouldn’t be surprised if the next time I hit him with a shovel, he tries to stop me with police.”


30 posted on 01/05/2016 6:35:28 AM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Just a bone being tossed in the direction of frothing-at-the-mouth Liberals.

This is much more than that. This is an insane unconstitutional overreach.

31 posted on 01/05/2016 6:37:00 AM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: tanknetter
Fighting this in the courts requires standing. That means people who are arrested and tried for violating the EOs. That means ATF setting up for and conducting sting operations.

Incorrect, or no civil rights lawsuit could ever have been initiated, ever.

32 posted on 01/05/2016 6:40:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: Olog-hai

President Barack Obama using his executive authority to enact gun control legislation without congressional approval...

Wow...everything wrong with Obama is encapsulated in that one sentence. That is simply STAGGERING. It doesn't take a Civics genius to understand the depths of peril the United States faces when things like that are going on.

33 posted on 01/05/2016 6:47:29 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: wrench

It is preposterous on the face of it. It simply CANNOT be “legislation” if it doesn’t originate in the legislature. Impeach! Imprison!


34 posted on 01/05/2016 6:48:17 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: meadsjn

The only appropriate congressional response would be impeachment by the House, and conviction by the Senate.


Good luck with that!

It’s foolhardy to even think that the ( bought and paid for ) Republicans would even dare to take any actions granted under our Constitution and Bill of Rights. They have proved the fact over and over again and still...are voted into office time and time again.

Now, with Paul Ryan in charge, the problem is magnified 10 times over.

Our only salvation is to throw them all out and bring in a new slate of those who will abide by the rules set forth in our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

We have a new generation ( millennials ) that live in an entirely different world as we older do and they present the most dangerous obstacle to freedom and liberty because they have been brainwashed and conditioned by our liberal educational and entertainment industries to believe in an entirely different set of morals, beliefs and ethics.

Progress (as they call it) will simply move on until they find themselves total slaves of the government but it will be too late to do anything about it and with that...they will get their just rewards that they worked so hard to get.


35 posted on 01/05/2016 6:48:44 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: tanknetter
"That means people who are arrested and tried for violating the EOs."

Laws not orders. How many doctors involved in research were arrested when the court overturned Obama's EO on stem cell research based on Administration overreaching their authority? The ink was not even dry yet when affected parties appealed.

Once the EO is released, I am wondering what piece of legislation that supposedly gives the Administration the right to expand checks at their will. After that, all this would take is one person who desires to sell a weapon claiming Administrative overreach based on the expanded check.
36 posted on 01/05/2016 6:57:57 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Olog-hai

Check me if I’m wrong Sandy, but ‘gun control’ ekes out a whopping <2% on the ‘what America cares about’ register.


37 posted on 01/05/2016 6:59:37 AM PST by headless_thompson_gunner
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To: Lazamataz

I agree with you on that in theory and in terms of older historical practice and precedent.

But the recent history of the courts, and particularly the Supreme Court, has been to apply a much stricter standard for standing. At least in part so it can avoid addressing controversial issues.

Thats the downside. The upside is that the Supreme Court also has a lot of recent precedent overturning this Administration’s unilateral actions, with many of those rulings being unanamous.


38 posted on 01/05/2016 7:26:25 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Olog-hai

His very choice of words demonstrates he doesn’t know what he’s blathering about. Nothing the POTUS unilaterally says it’s “legislation”. That’s when a body with the legal about to do so enacts a law. His scriblings are just directions for the executive branch.


39 posted on 01/05/2016 10:48:45 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

About = authority

Effing Android


40 posted on 01/05/2016 10:49:38 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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