Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

U.S. Struggles to Explain Alliance With Saudis
The New York Times ^ | January 4, 2015 | David E. Sanger

Posted on 01/05/2016 3:42:53 AM PST by Timber Rattler

The Obama administration on Monday confronted the fundamental contradiction in its increasingly tense relationship with Saudi Arabia. It could not bring itself, at least in public, to condemn the execution of a dissident cleric who challenged the royal family, for fear of undermining the fragile Saudi leadership that it desperately needs in fighting the Islamic State and ending the conflict in Syria.

The United States has usually looked the other way or issued carefully calibrated warnings in human rights reports as the Saudi royal family cracked down on dissent and free speech and allowed its elite to fund Islamic extremists. In return, Saudi Arabia became America’s most dependable filling station, a regular supplier of intelligence, and a valuable counterweight to Iran.

For years it was oil that provided the glue for a relationship between two nations that share few common values.

Today, with American oil production surging and the Saudi leadership fractured, the mutual dependency that goes back to the early 1930s, with the first American investment in the kingdom’s oil fields, no longer binds the nations as it once did.

But the political upheaval in the Middle East and the American perception that the Saudis are critical to stability in the region continue to hold together an increasingly fractious marriage. So when Saudi Arabia executed 47 people, including Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr, the dissident cleric, on Saturday, beheading many of them in a style that most Americans associate with the Islamic State rather than a close American partner, the administration’s efforts to explain the relationship became more strained than ever.

In fact, the executions were the culmination of a series of events in the past few years that have led to clashes between the two nations.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; obamaforeignpolicy; saudiarabia; syria
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-31 last
To: Timber Rattler

Me too. But it is as much in Saudi Arabia’s interests as ours, even more theirs, just as the wars with Sadam were. SO THERE SHOULD BE PAYBACK FROM THE HOUSE OF SAUD. Tolerance of other religions and political dissent, equal treatment for women and THE END of brural Sharia punishment MUST APBE the requirement of OURS to helping THEM. That is the only way to break the back of Wahhabi tyranny.


21 posted on 01/05/2016 4:38:09 AM PST by ZULU (Mt. McKinley is the tallest mountain in N. America. Denali is Aleut for "scam artist.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Timber Rattler

to the old gray whore, capital punishment carries a greater weight than national security. there is no justification for capital punishment, even the very life of the nation


22 posted on 01/05/2016 4:43:04 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Timber Rattler

I have only two questions about a Saudi-Iranian conflict.

1. How much popcorn will I need ?

2. What’s the best beer to watch this with ?


23 posted on 01/05/2016 4:49:35 AM PST by Salgak (Peace Through Superior Firepower. . . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ThePatriotsFlag

Bingo.


24 posted on 01/05/2016 4:49:53 AM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: ZULU

And that’s one thing the Saudis will NEVER do. The House of Saud cut a deal with the Wahabbi’s to come to power, way back when, and now the results of that are coming home to roost.

Plus, the Oil Bust is eating seriously into their revenue, and, suddenly, they’re running out of Other People’s Money to keep their people docile. . .


25 posted on 01/05/2016 4:53:11 AM PST by Salgak (Peace Through Superior Firepower. . . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Timber Rattler

Agree. But I wonder if this article is being pushed by Obama to remove support from Saudi Arabia and give support to Iran.


26 posted on 01/05/2016 4:59:42 AM PST by ChiefJayStrongbow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

“It makes more sense when you just determine that the U.S. government has been bought and infiltrated by foreign governments for years.”

Follow the money and follow Soros. Where there is the possibility for economic ruin, Soros is usually there shorting the market.


27 posted on 01/05/2016 5:32:38 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Jews for Cruz)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer

What’s new? Plenty of Americans have died helping the Saudis in Iraq in three separate wars.


28 posted on 01/05/2016 5:46:31 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Slings and Arrows; All
We need nothing from either side with the exception of their quick and bloody demise. We do not need oil. We can sell all the oil the Chicoms and Europe can use. We do not need sand. We do not need mooslimes. We do not need rich princes, nor students, tourists or any other of these people of I-slam to darken our shores.

We need them to be ended and disposed of. If the sectarian violence and hopefully all out total war between two enemies of the West is to be...the only question is: how to we hasten their demise and where do you want the weapons dropped?

We need nothing from the Islamic world except for their quick exit from this good earth.

Anything else is just one-worlder/global socialist/neo-con B.S. for someones portfolio.

The world just needs them all to depart.

The quicker...the better.

29 posted on 01/05/2016 6:00:32 AM PST by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: CharlesOConnell

Are you having a problem with your manners?


30 posted on 01/05/2016 11:03:07 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Timber Rattler

just wondering to myself ... how close are the saudis to getting their own nukes?


31 posted on 01/05/2016 11:14:09 AM PST by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-31 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson