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New Hampshire Independents May Control Fates of Trump and Sanders
NYT ^ | DEC. 30, 2015 | PATRICK HEALY and MATT FLEGENHEIMER

Posted on 12/31/2015 8:20:53 AM PST by GonzoII

ROCHESTER, N.H. -- There are few titles in American democracy as privileged as "undeclared New Hampshire voter."

Presidential candidates obsess over them. Operatives tailor advertisements to their whims. And in an election season more volatile than any campaign is likely to have imagined, the state's electoral free agents here are beginning to grapple with how to exercise their unusual power to control the fates of candidates in either party.

About 40 percent of the New Hampshire electorate is independent (officially called undeclared) -- a greater voter share than either party can claim -- and is allowed to participate in either primary.

And their choices could be decisive for two very different candidates, Donald J. Trump and Senator Bernie Sanders, who are counting on independent support to win the state.

snip... Many independents like Mr. Trump: In a CNN/WMUR poll this month, 34 percent of undeclared voters who plan to vote in the Republican primary said they supported Mr. Trump, compared with 16 percent for Senator Marco Rubio of Florida and 7 percent each for Jeb Bush, Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey and Mr. Kasich. Some political analysts attributed Mr. Trump's high numbers to his well-known name, because these voters tend not to think about politics or their candidate options until closer to the primary.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: elections; immigration; polls; trump; trumpwasright
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Trump looks good with Independents:


1 posted on 12/31/2015 8:20:53 AM PST by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

Sounds like NH is Trump’s to lose. If he wins big, it will be hard to stop him.


2 posted on 12/31/2015 8:29:06 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: GonzoII

I loathe the fact some liberal east coast rathole like NH has so much power in the primary int he first place.

Honestly I think a national primary would be better some days.

I live in Colorado, by the time we come up in the primary schedule 9 out of 10 times the candidate is already picked and our decision barely matters at all.


3 posted on 12/31/2015 8:41:51 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Fantasywriter

I think the South Carolina Primary will be the determining primary where candidates drop out after that primary. I think that is historically true.


4 posted on 12/31/2015 8:42:01 AM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today))
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To: GonzoII

New Hampshire Independents cannot decide whether to go with their heart and vote for Sanders, or whether to screw up the conservatives best chance to capture the presidency by voting for Trump.


5 posted on 12/31/2015 8:45:50 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: Marcella

Trump is very popular in SC too.


6 posted on 12/31/2015 8:58:45 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: elhombrelibre

If Cruz wins IA, surely the momentum will sweep through NH.

Right?


7 posted on 12/31/2015 9:07:34 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: GonzoII

A tight race between Clinton and Sanders (two communists) could dampen the number of democrats crossing over in this ‘open primary’ to vote for the designated GOPe candidate...


8 posted on 12/31/2015 9:12:19 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: yongin; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; sickoflibs; randita

As you said, suddenly freepers are Ok with pernicious open primaries.


9 posted on 12/31/2015 9:16:33 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: GonzoII

If Trump keeps his 25% lead over the pack, he WILL NOT NEED either New Hampshire or Iowa, as they’re only 1.4% of the delegates (combined).

The others DO NEED to do well in at least one of these states, as they are critical for getting continued funding.


10 posted on 12/31/2015 9:32:49 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: elhombrelibre

“New Hampshire Independents cannot decide whether to go with their heart and vote for Sanders, or whether to screw up the conservatives best chance to capture the presidency by voting for Trump.”

We Americans that want SECURE BORDERS and DEPORTATIONS will take any help that Independents want to give Trump.


11 posted on 12/31/2015 9:34:39 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Impy

trump is the pope of conversative teachings. he defines conservatism. important: all trump homilies have expiration dates. all rights come from trump. error has no rights.


12 posted on 12/31/2015 10:02:37 AM PST by yongin (brendon eich is an example of error has no rights)
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To: BobL

+1


13 posted on 12/31/2015 10:04:53 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: GonzoII
"Janet Doyle, an undeclared voter from Portsmouth, said she usually voted Democratic. But she suggested a sort of civic duty this time to participate in the Republican primary instead."

"It's where New Hampshire can make the most difference this year," she said, ticking off the names of some moderate Republicans she might support, including Gov. John R. Kasich of Ohio and Jeb Bush. "Anything to stop Trump."

#UJD

14 posted on 12/31/2015 10:15:24 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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"Many independents like Mr. Trump: In a CNN/WMUR poll this month, 34 percent of undeclared voters who plan to vote in the Republican primary said they supported Mr. Trump, compared with 16 percent for Senator Marco Rubio of Florida and 7 percent each for Jeb Bush, Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey and Mr. Kasich."

Ted Cruz has a problem, no cross over votes = unelectable. But against Hillary or Sanders maybe.

15 posted on 12/31/2015 10:17:16 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: Fantasywriter

One would hope, but the Libs could perform an operation chaos, too. They surely wouldn’t care that Trump was in bed with the Clintons for many years. Why would they? It’d suit their anti-traditionalist worldview.


16 posted on 12/31/2015 10:50:42 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: BobL

Would you exclude anyone from supporting you?


17 posted on 12/31/2015 10:51:34 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: elhombrelibre

A lot of libs detest Trump. Did you see that quote from the lib woman who said she’d vote for anyone with a chance of stopping Trump?


18 posted on 12/31/2015 10:53:58 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

No, but I can imagine that for them Trump is what Clinton was to us. That is, he was always changing his position and slick without principles. So I think I get it.


19 posted on 12/31/2015 11:00:11 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Liberals have posted a welter of comments and columns on why they hate Trump. Your characterization is not among the issues they iterate.


20 posted on 12/31/2015 11:21:32 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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