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A Challenge to Get to Mars and Back
Townhall.com ^ | December 25 | Suzanne Fields

Posted on 12/25/2015 6:31:42 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yep.


61 posted on 12/25/2015 1:44:39 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

One who loves to be on both the giving and receiving end of a rectal probe.


62 posted on 12/25/2015 1:52:50 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Most definitely. A real flamer.


63 posted on 12/25/2015 2:04:23 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: Mark was here

We don’t have the technology to go to orbit, much less the moon. We have to pay the Russians $70 million every time they bring one of our astronauts to the ISS.


64 posted on 12/25/2015 2:04:46 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: GOPsterinMA

One who smells of poo.


65 posted on 12/25/2015 2:10:50 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

From 100 miles away.


66 posted on 12/25/2015 3:22:57 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: Kaslin
Re: “The Martian” could motivate a generation of young people to see the value of studying math and science. We remain woefully behind in international tests in science and math...”

This is not serious.

I have never met an exceptional student in the Internet age who needed to be motivated. It's all on the Web, dude. You can study anything on You Tube, and it's usually presented by an excellent teacher.

Math, science, history, literature, business, all of them are their own reward, and every exceptional student knows that intuitively.

As to “woefully behind in international test scores,” once again, get serious.

Most countries cheat, testing only their best students and best schools.

If the USA just tested white, Asian, and Jewish students, we'd be number one.

Instead, we test everybody, including the 40% of 15 year olds who are Black and Hispanic and have huge dropout rates.

Surprise, surprise - we are completely “average” when we test everybody!

67 posted on 12/25/2015 5:12:55 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: PIF; Trumpet 1

Re: “Mars does have an atmosphere just not as dense as Earth...”

Less than 1% as dense, and oxygen and water vapor are just trace gases. Also, nitrogen is just 3% of Mars’ ultra-rarified atmosphere, which makes me wonder where the nitrogen, and the nitrogen fixing bacteria, to grow edible plants for entire “colonies” of people is going to come from.

Trumpet’s point was that Earth’s explorers were seeking new lands that could sustain human life naturally, and possessed untapped resources that could be easily exported to their home country. That’s not the case in Space.

Besides Helium 3 from the Moon, what natural resource from space could be exported to Earth in economically viable quantities? Nothing that I know about. And, Helium 3 is still a completely unproven commercial technology.

Now, before you start shouting at me, I completely support robotic space exploration and space telescopes. In fact, I would happily commit the entire Manned Mission budget to the robotic and space telescope budget. And I firmly believe that Space tourism and Space thrill rides will become a profitable business model in this century.

But the idea that men can, or will, routinely travel back and forth from Mars, or live prosperously on Mars, is not going to happen for hundreds of years, no matter how much money we spend, and no matter how brave the explorers may be.


68 posted on 12/25/2015 7:21:46 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Impy

“Pathetic Earthlings.
Hurling your bodies out into the void, without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here.
If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe, anything at all...
...you would have hidden from it in TERROR.”

- Ming the Merciless


69 posted on 12/25/2015 7:44:52 PM PST by Kodos the Executioner (.. the revolution is successful, but survival depends upon drastic measures..")
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To: Kaslin

Going to the moon and establishing a colony would be cheaper than a “touchdown and liftoff” on Mars.


70 posted on 12/25/2015 7:57:24 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Kodos the Executioner

Terror! You said the magic word, Lindsey is “excited” now, he’ll be on the next shuttle. ;D


71 posted on 12/25/2015 9:16:50 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Trumpet 1

I disagree. There are a ton of new technologies that could be developed from a Mars mission. However, we’d get more from a permanently manned Venus base in the clouds above Venus.

If we ever did go to Venus, we’d likely shatter for good any notion of climate change being any sort of real science.


72 posted on 12/25/2015 10:11:48 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

I don’t think we actually need to go there to measure cyclical temps, and do what you said.


73 posted on 12/25/2015 10:20:51 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: zeestephen

Your buddy made a blanket statement that mars has NO atmosphere. That was simply the first of his blanket misleading statements. Those were the points to which I was responding, other than that your buddy is against most any exploration.


74 posted on 12/26/2015 3:27:52 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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