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The military's real problem: Fewer Americans are joining
Politico ^ | December 15, 2015 | John Spencer

Posted on 12/17/2015 11:17:24 AM PST by QT3.14

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To: QT3.14

I see that allowing gays in the military was a fine help. Our kedics will be busy rebuilding a$$ holes instead of war wounded.


41 posted on 12/17/2015 12:34:44 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall noshi)
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To: QT3.14

“The government’s current difficulty in assembling a full force dates to 1973, when the United States eliminated the draft and transitioned into an all-volunteer system.”

Odd. There was an 8-month backlog when I joined UNDER RONALD REAGAN. Yep...I had to wait to get in because so many had volunteered.

So no, the difficulty didn’t date to 1973.

There wasn’t a problem in 2003, either. And I was deployed to Afghanistan in 2007, and didn’t see the problems the author claims he saw a year later.

But last year, I had a chance to talk informally with a number of young enlisted guys - and there were HUGE moral problems, all of which were rooted in BAD LEADERSHIP, from the top down to the field grade officers! Both my son and SIL got out, saying they hadn’t served under any officers who could tell the truth.

As a retired O-5 whose very honest O-6 dad died in Vietnam...that hurt to hear. But the rot starts at the top.


42 posted on 12/17/2015 12:43:24 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: QT3.14

Given the antagonism towards Christians and stripping the chaplains of their authority, I foresee a time, maybe in the near future, when Christian are going to stop volunteering.


43 posted on 12/17/2015 12:49:30 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

To elucidate on my prior post, the reason the chaplain service was established in the military in the first place was to be the “conscience of the commander.” Christians were concerned about serving in the military unless there was a Christian influence. Otherwise, the military could end up used for things against God’s commands (e.g., Nazis, war crimes, etc.) So the chaplain historically had the responsibility to tell the commanding officer if the chaplain thought the commander was doing something wrong, and the further responsibility to take that up the chain of command if not adequately addressed by the CO.

Of course, that has now all been taken away that the CO has to responsible to the gay and lesbian diversity political officer instead.


44 posted on 12/17/2015 12:54:08 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: QT3.14

“The number of Americans eligible to serve in the military is dramatically shrinking, leaving the Army at its smallest size in over 75 years and forcing units to rely on unstable and unprepared servicemen.”

They’re DRAWING DOWN. They’re kicking people OUT. They’re tightening the rules for who can and cannot join.

THIS IS INTENTIONAL.


“n 2008, when I was an infantry company commander in charge of over 140 soldiers in Baghdad, I saw firsthand how the declining number of volunteers is hurting the military. Thirty-six of my men were forced to deploy even though their terms of service were up, a controversial military policy known as “stop loss” or the “back door draft.” To meet the bare minimum number of soldiers, my unit took men who were medically unfit to fight. I had soldiers that could not leave our compound because they were medically prohibited from wearing their body armor or classified as mentally unfit. I had soldiers taking anti-depression, sleeping, anxiety and other drugs. I had a mentally unstable private viciously attack his sergeant, causing lifelong damage, and multiple other problem soldiers that detracted from the combat performance of my unit. This was symptomatic throughout the Army.”

Yup. There are unstable people in the military who should not be there.

But that’s not why you’re short every time a unit deploys, dear leader.

You’re short because the majority of the females in a unit try to get pregnant right before a deployment. (I’ve seen it happen every freaking TIME. I listen to the women brag about it and the ones who don’t get knocked up lamenting that they tried. One of my husband’s units lost 10 PERCENT of their force to pregnancy right before they pulled out. The Pentagon refused to replace these soldiers because, technically, they were still part of the unit.)

But you guys keep her on the books so the unit can’t send a suitable replacement for the entire deployment.

You’re also short because we’re switching from a war-footing to a peace time-footing and the SMA would rather have a mentally unstable soldier than one with a tattoo of a hula girl on his arm.

And STOP LOSS isn’t for the average Joe. Stop loss is for experienced, older troops who are necessary for specialized fields. (I know. I personally am related to two men who were stop lossed and two who were recalled to duty after being out for years.)


“But by 2017, the Army will be the smallest it has been since 1940, with only 450,000 soldiers.”

That’s not due to a shortage of volunteers. That’s a deliberate act by our political ‘leaders’ in DC and you, dear writer, KNOW THAT.


“If we want an Army that can expand quickly, we must recruit, train and develop a professional core of midgrade and senior officers and noncommissioned officers to which a group of junior enlisted volunteers can join. As the number of core officers shrinks, the risk that there won’t be enough volunteers in the future only increases.”

I fully agree, which begs the question, WHY DID THE DOD AND PENTAGON *JUST* DISMISS A TON OF THEIR EXPERIENCED OFFICERS AND SENIOR NCOs??

TONS of pink slips were delivered this fall. Why? “To make room.”


This idiot is pointing the finger of blame at US citizens instead of the politicians who are actually causing all of the problems.

I agree that way too many of our young people are not fit to fight and that we do need a national program to train them for the potential of war.

But, instead, we’re teaching our kids to fear guns and that ‘violence is never the answer’. We’re eliminating PE from our school systems so that we can train kids to take a test. No wonder they don’t want to join.

We don’t trust a 18 year old senior with a freaking pocket knife. Why would he feel capable of handling a gun?


45 posted on 12/17/2015 1:07:16 PM PST by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: QT3.14

Perhaps we could trade paying off student loans for service in the military - a reverse GI Bill. Afterall, most of the kids aren’t doing anything anyway in Obama’s recession they cannot get jobs.


46 posted on 12/17/2015 1:08:58 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: FourPeas; All
The military's real problem: the CIC.

It appears Putkin also doesn't think much of ØPuss. Here is a satellite photograph of an
Obama insult in white paint on the runway of the Russian air base in Syrian Latakia. The
'YMO' or 'UMO' is believed to mean "schmoe" which resembles the Yiddish "schmuck,"
but with much stronger negative connotations.

Imagine our intell sources studying satellite images! Talk about in your face. LOL!

47 posted on 12/17/2015 1:11:27 PM PST by QT3.14 (USA is facing assisted-suicide by the Left)
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To: QT3.14

The military’s real problem:

OBAMA


48 posted on 12/17/2015 1:11:32 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: QT3.14

The only future enemy the US military will be allowed to defeat decisively is us.


49 posted on 12/17/2015 1:15:25 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: One_American

“Not to mention the excellent treatment you can look forward to from the VA.”


As I like to say: “A VA hospital gives the military veteran a second opportunity to die for their country.”


50 posted on 12/17/2015 1:15:52 PM PST by Towed_Jumper (There were no muslims on the Mayflower)
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To: Black Agnes

+1


51 posted on 12/17/2015 1:23:27 PM PST by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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To: QT3.14

Who would want to join with Obama as Head muslim in charge?


52 posted on 12/17/2015 1:24:20 PM PST by DungeonMaster (2John11 = shun democrats.)
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To: QT3.14
Oh sure just "harness" me and my children...

"Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."

53 posted on 12/17/2015 1:27:31 PM PST by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: QT3.14

This doesn’t surprise me at all.

Sons and daughters of conservative Americans comprise the largest percentage of military members and many are telling their sons and daughters not to join this fag-friendly military where Obama has forced PC garbage down their throats, which now includes women in combat.


54 posted on 12/17/2015 1:34:52 PM PST by ohioman
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To: Towed_Jumper
Note ØPuss talks about 'Compassion' and 'American values' when it comes
to taking in refugees, but never about our vets well-being.
55 posted on 12/17/2015 1:35:16 PM PST by QT3.14 (USA is facing assisted-suicide by the Left)
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To: laweeks

*Shove or hit some scum child rapist who is a member of another country’s forces and get drummed out of the US military for your trouble.


56 posted on 12/17/2015 1:39:40 PM PST by Cecily
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To: laweeks

Good post. I think you covered everything worth mentioning.


57 posted on 12/17/2015 1:41:14 PM PST by ohioman
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To: QT3.14

I recently ran across a posted Yiddish reference to “schmoe” while comparing “putz” to “schmuck”...

The author wrote that a “Schmoe” or Schmo” was also a little man who enjoyed wrestling with large women to get his sexual gratification, but did not actually engage in intercourse...

If true, then “Schmoe” is a descriptor that fits FUBO nicely, eh? See: Moo-Chelle...

When they “diss” on FUBO, gotta say I’m likin’ me some Russkies...


58 posted on 12/17/2015 3:24:33 PM PST by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak!)
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To: QT3.14

Who wants to be in a gay military except gays?


59 posted on 12/17/2015 6:15:20 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: QT3.14

Some of you people have some evil things to say about our Military regardless who the President is.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/psuarmyrotc/sets/72157661838838049


60 posted on 12/18/2015 10:28:43 AM PST by angcat
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