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Yes, We Can Deport 12 Million
American Thinker ^ | December 17, 2015 | Norman Rogers

Posted on 12/17/2015 9:38:47 AM PST by Petrosius

Every year the 89,000 employees of the Internal Revenue Service attempt to enforce the tax laws for well over 200 million taxpayers. Obviously this is impossible and taxpayers could ignore the law with near impunity. Yet, they don't. Somehow the IRS persuades the vast majority of the taxpayers to pay up.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens
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To: Petrosius

No matter what mechanism we use to rid ourselves of the invaders, it only takes the will to do it.


21 posted on 12/17/2015 10:00:03 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: entropy12

—I should have expanded on it as I have before—the employer should go to prison about the same time his company goes bankrupt from the fines also assessed——


22 posted on 12/17/2015 10:00:18 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Petrosius

Mexicans or muslims? I favor both.


23 posted on 12/17/2015 10:00:23 AM PST by austingirl (Sharia, taqiyya, jihad, hijera- what more do you need to know about islam?)
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To: DugwayDuke

It’s all in how you carry out deportation.
1. A media circus will not be allowed, deportation locations will be many and varied.
2. Citizens of these countries cannot be denied entry to their country of origin. However, they can be transported legally to US consulates in those countries and released in-country, happens every day.
3. Busses are not the only way to transport people efficiently.
4. Leaving these citizens of other countries with survival backpacks of food, water, basic necessities can be provided easily and inexpensively.
5. The media only knows what they are told. Many more people have been let in the US than the general public knows, because the Media has been left in the dark, it works both ways.
6. Non-US citizens cannot file lawsuits against the US for illegal acts that they committed (Illegal entry). They broke the law and were returned to their country of origin.
7. Camps are only way stations to deportation, a place to investigate each person, and correctly determine where, when, and how they will be deported.
The key here is that we will spend much more time processing these people to ascertain their status, reason for leaving, health condition and status, than most countries would ever make available to them. Most countries would simply deny entry, put them on busses and return them, or shoot them, and let them die where they lay. In most countries, authorization for use of deadly force is authorized for illegal border crossing.


24 posted on 12/17/2015 10:02:21 AM PST by Rustybucket
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To: Robert DeLong

Then we may as well appropriate the motto of their openly racist organization—La Raza—as well:
“Por La Raza (blanco) todo, Fuera de La Raza (blanco) nada”.

It’s fun turning the mesas, isn’t it? Go Trump


25 posted on 12/17/2015 10:02:59 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Petrosius

You don’t have to have any large scale round-ups, in fact I doubt seriously this will happen. The media may try to create a fictional round-up, but there won’t be one.

Secure the border. Enforce the law. Let the chips fall. Once you stop the in-flow, over a very few years the problem resolves itself. Some people get caught up by Immigration, some people find some way to legalize themselves, some see there is no future here and they just go home. Without any mass deportation, the problem just goes away.

Its not that difficult, it only sounds difficult when its described by people with a vested interest in not doing it. Stop the inflow. Secure the border, enforce the law, and let nature take its course.


26 posted on 12/17/2015 10:04:08 AM PST by marron
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To: rellimpank
"heavily penalize any employer who hires the illegals"

But those employers are known as The Chamber of Commerce etc and own the GOP completely, so - it Ain't Gonna Happen.

27 posted on 12/17/2015 10:06:55 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: I am Richard Brandon

—yep—fantasizing on my part—


28 posted on 12/17/2015 10:08:24 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank
"...if we were willing to stop welfare, etc., and heavily penalize any employer who hires the illegals, the problem would be over with in about a month"

Add to that the simple step of cross checking voter registration roles to see who is committing FELONY elections fraud and self deportation would probably become a stampede.

(of course, the primary effort must be a thorough cleaning of the White House and the West Wing)

29 posted on 12/17/2015 10:12:14 AM PST by Baynative (Liberty lost is a high price to pay for the experiment of socialism.)
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To: rellimpank

You have the right idea...
Take all the benefits away, starting with full health care, then welfare, then housing subsidies, then the ability to get a job legally, do not allow their children into public schools, remove food stamps, require English only, no Spanish publications for government or private sector work. Do not allow upper education access without a visa, and the cost is the same as US students, visas will be rigorously followed, and failure to comply will return the student will no possibility of finishing their Education in the US, and denial for 10 years of application for US citizenship.
Make the rules, make breaking those rules tough, enforce the rules. Finally remove Fiancé visa’s without first having extreme vetting...there is much more that can be done that would assure people would just leave if they could not survive here, and it would save taxpayers Billions.


30 posted on 12/17/2015 10:14:23 AM PST by Rustybucket
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To: Petrosius

Romney was always right about self-deportation. Given the right policies, they’ll just go back to their mother country.


31 posted on 12/17/2015 10:19:26 AM PST by Crucial (At the heart all leftists is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: tumblindice
"La raza" was a source of pride for many Latinos, the most militant of whom adopted the motto: "Por la raza todo, fuera de la raza nada" - "For the race, everything, outside the race, nothing." But it drew resistance from many leaders who sought a place for their people within the broader American society. Cesar Chavez was one of the most outspoken critics.

"I hear about la raza more and more," Chavez told biographer Peter Matthiessen. "Some people don't look at it as racism, but when you say 'la raza,' you are saying an anti-gringo thing, and our fear is that it won't stop there. Today it's anti-gringo, tomorrow it will be anti-Negro, and the day after it will be anti-Filipino, anti-Puerto Rican. And then it will be anti-poor-Mexican, and anti-darker-skinned Mexican."

U.S. Rep. Henry Gonzalez (D-Texas), a liberal Democrat, attacked the formation of the Chicano Movement party, La Raza Unida, as "reverse racism. ... as evil as the deadly hatred of the Nazis." Denouncing what he called "the politics of race", he said, "Only one thing counts to them, la raza above all."

In recent years, as the NCLR has gained prominence in the political mainstream, its name has caused strains even within the organization. While some Mexican-Americans say they have adopted the term "la raza" without embracing its militant connotations, others have been uncomfortable with an organization whose very name emphasizes racial identity.

Of course you are saying make it: "Por La Raza (blanco) todo, Fuera de La Raza (blanco) nada". "For the white race, everything, outside the white race, nothing."

I guess it would be payback of sorts, and definitely rile them up.

32 posted on 12/17/2015 10:20:16 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: DugwayDuke

If countries won’t take them back just cut off all views of their citizens to visit the US. In most situations are govt just does not use the leverage we have.


33 posted on 12/17/2015 10:23:31 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Petrosius

And the sooner the better.


34 posted on 12/17/2015 10:24:31 AM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: DugwayDuke

That’s why we need a President who doesn’t give a rat’s ass what the media thinks, and will do what the people want, and not the media. Tha “media” are a tiny minority in this country, and their agenda is not ours.


35 posted on 12/17/2015 10:28:26 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: entropy12
Charging the employer of illegals a monetary fine will be looked at cost of doing business, and they will keep doing it.

It depends on the fine, and how often they get fined. If you made it an administrative offense, ticket $300, they will pay the ticket rather than fight it.

If you give local cops the authority to issue the ticket, and the local dept gets to keep the fines, then suddenly cops will be camping out at known employers of illegals.

Think an employer will absorb a $300 ticket PER ILLEGAL, and do it every day?

We would also need to make it illegal to sign up an illegal for welfare, and make the bureaucrat who signs one up anyway PERSONALLY liable.

36 posted on 12/17/2015 10:35:17 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: rellimpank

And it’s Christmas. We all deserve something to make us feel happy.


37 posted on 12/17/2015 10:47:52 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Rustybucket

“1. A media circus will not be allowed, deportation locations will be many and varied.”

Ever read the Constitution? There’s this little thing about freedom of the press.

“2. Citizens of these countries cannot be denied entry to their country of origin. However, they can be transported legally to US consulates in those countries and released in-country, happens every day.”

Sure they can be denied entry. What are you going to do if Mexico stops the buses at the border? You going to sue them? Or, if Guatemala won’t let you deplane the illegals to transport them to the consulates. Or, if Haiti won’t allow them to leave the consulates. Those are sovereign countries who will do as they please.

“3. Busses are not the only way to transport people efficiently.”

So what. Buses are just an example.

“4. Leaving these citizens of other countries with survival backpacks of food, water, basic necessities can be provided easily and inexpensively.”

Where are you going to leave them if the host country won’t accept them? What will you say when the first reports of dying persons come in? What about criminals preying upon these people?

“5. The media only knows what they are told. Many more people have been let in the US than the general public knows, because the Media has been left in the dark, it works both ways.”

The media will find out. You cannot declare martial law and prevent the media from reporting.

“6. Non-US citizens cannot file lawsuits against the US for illegal acts that they committed (Illegal entry). They broke the law and were returned to their country of origin.”

There have already been lawsuits filed by illegals demanding drivers licenses.

“7. Camps are only way stations to deportation, a place to investigate each person, and correctly determine where, when, and how they will be deported.”

All the same, the media will call them ‘concentration camps’.

“The key here is that we will spend much more time processing these people to ascertain their status, reason for leaving, health condition and status, than most countries would ever make available to them. Most countries would simply deny entry, put them on busses and return them, or shoot them, and let them die where they lay. In most countries, authorization for use of deadly force is authorized for illegal border crossing.”

We aren’t other countries and the American people simply won’t put up with this kind of thing.


38 posted on 12/17/2015 10:52:19 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: marron

What I’ve been saying for years. The laws are already there. Enforcing the laws is all that’s required.


39 posted on 12/17/2015 10:54:48 AM PST by sheana
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To: Petrosius

Why deport them? Cut off welfare food and medical...they self deport. We save money, they go home. Why is it more complicated than this? (Oh, so Democrats can get 20,000,000 more voter by giving away more free things? Now I get it).


40 posted on 12/17/2015 11:03:52 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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