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Breaking: Donald Trump calls for a complete shutdown of muslims entering the country.
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Posted on 12/07/2015 1:43:31 PM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: NKP_Vet

WHY would we have invited NAZIs or Italian fascists or men of the Empire of Japan into the US during fighting? Or, even better, the Viet Cong?

I now view almost ALL DC pols and media as muslims-or, at the very least, dhimmis who are bought off. They must PROVE to me that they are NOT. There is no assuming with these people anymore.

And to the extent that we hear Trump lambasted for his demand, I’m right. Either they believe, or they are PAID to believe. Those toothy smiles, those lying eyes. Those pretty words that strip our rights and make nice with ISNA and the MB. It’s all as plain as day.


321 posted on 12/07/2015 6:35:20 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: catnipman

“All men...are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights ... That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed”. Nothing in there about “but only for citizens.” You come here, you obey our laws, we protect your natural rights.


322 posted on 12/07/2015 6:41:22 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: RoosterRedux
This will definitely escalate his rating points.

WHY? It's what most common sense people think should be done.

323 posted on 12/07/2015 6:58:29 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: combat_boots

Why did we ever let Muslims in the US in the first place? They are a parasite that kills its host. This invasion of the body snatchers.


324 posted on 12/07/2015 6:59:08 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: ctdonath2

This is a turning point. Trump now cruches hillary. Blacks, Whites, Hispanic legals, Asian Americans are sick of this moslem crap. GET OUT STAY OUT!! It is a huge back lash— We are tired on innocent Americans dieing. Get your Sharia Diarrhea out of our country!! Praise JESUS!!


325 posted on 12/07/2015 7:01:06 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

They think us the parasites.

We are to be done away with.

Go back, GG, and rethink all that 0bama has done. Right down to the 2009 DHS memo. Imagine that we are governed as an Islamic nation.

It’s not a refugee thing. It’s hijra.


326 posted on 12/07/2015 7:16:29 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

I agree. OMuslim is a puppet of Soros and the Saudi’s. He is in office to bring down the US and help usher in the Caliphate. 7 years on he’s doing a darn fine job of it.


327 posted on 12/07/2015 7:22:44 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: butterdezillion
Teh difference between "radical Islam" and "moderate Islam" is what the percentage of Muslims in a nation is, because when it hits about 8% all Muslims are required to become "radical Muslims".

Do you have a source for that assertion?

328 posted on 12/07/2015 7:23:42 PM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: WENDLE

Be confident if terrorist attacks subside long enough, Hillary will be dealt with. But she’s not going to like the tone.


329 posted on 12/07/2015 7:28:05 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: WENDLE

Be sure you follow Christ’s example, not Mohammed’s.


330 posted on 12/07/2015 7:32:13 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Gritty

Thanks for the fix. You’re right.


331 posted on 12/07/2015 8:45:43 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: HandyDandy

“Internment camps...]

No, send them home to be with their families. We have to pay for internment, and well, I’d rather they just go home for now.

Bye!


332 posted on 12/07/2015 8:49:02 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: combat_boots

The problem with the republicans is even if they are agree with Trump they ain’t about to admit it. That would prove he was right and he got the best of them again. But dammit he did. He’s where he’s at in the polls because he’s a leader and it comes out. He also not controlled by special interest groups so he does not care what others think about him. I think it’s great.


333 posted on 12/07/2015 9:03:54 PM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: ctdonath2

“All men...are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights”

I believe that would be the Declaration of Independence, not the U.S. Constitution. U.S. law is predicated on the U.S. Constitution, not the Declaration of Independence.

The rights under the U.S. Constitution do not flow to foreign nationals on foreign soil. They have their own governing law, which in turn does not apply to the U.S.


334 posted on 12/07/2015 9:04:22 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: ConstantSkeptic

Here are some links: http://www.discerningthetimesonline.net/#!islam-shariah-law-/c15qj

In looking further, this seems to come from a book by Dr. Peter Hammond, “Slavery, Terrorism & Islam: The
Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat”. I guess I would need to read the book to see the citations he offers.

Another item of interest is an article at http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/65537 . It links to a chronology of Islamic terrorism as well as a listing of Mohammad’s own words regarding terrorism.

One of the points made in that piece is that more Muslims become terrorists when they have the opportunity - IOW, when they are intermixed with non-Muslims. The author’s comment is that it is crazy to send non-Muslims into a Muslim country for war, but the inverse is also true: it is crazy to improt Muslims into America to do war here.

One of the problems with this article, though, is that it only addresses terrorism. Terrorism is the means through which Islam seeks to scare host cultures into accepting Muslim terms. Today the more effective tool is multiculturalism, and the major way of subduing nations is by demographics, as Hammond’s work shows more clearly. We can look at what has happened in Europe to create pockets of sharia for “cultural” reasons, and then see that those pockets work into the legal fabric to extend to ever-larger areas.

The latter reference in this post distinguishes between Muslim “fundamentalists” and non-fundamentalists, as if only fundamentalists are terrorists. That may or may not be true, but the part of Islam that opposes civilization in general and the US Constitution in particular is sharia which outlaws everything except Islam, and when Prince Charles gathered “moderate” Muslims to get them to denounce terrorism, not one of them would denounce sharia.

Minnesota has a standing US Representative who pledges allegiance to sharia over the US Constituiton - Keith Ellison. That is, he WANTS sharia to trump the US Constituiton, though he at this point may acknowledge that it doesn’t for the US yet. The fact that Barack Obama has a “sharia czar” should tell us everything we need to know about the ultimate goal of this Islamist-installed foreign enemy combatant in our White House.


335 posted on 12/08/2015 4:28:19 AM PST by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

I have zero problem with what Trump said, in fact I think we should round up the gays while we are at it


336 posted on 12/08/2015 7:19:25 AM PST by Chauncey Uppercrust (CRUZ/TRUMP 2016 OR BUST)
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To: ctdonath2

The 1st doesn’t allow for declarations of war!


337 posted on 12/08/2015 7:39:29 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: butterdezillion

Trump’s interview this morning, where he talked about “no-go zones” in France and Britain, gets into that issue of problems caused by large groups of Muslims in one place, even if terrorism is not considered. This is a step in the right direction, because terrorism is more of a side-show to the Islamic plan for a worldwide caliphate. It gets our attention and creates urgency but the terror we need to combat is even more insidious. If we don’t take the Islamist threat seriously right now, it will be SYSTEMATIC killing of non-Muslims, not the “asymmetric warfare” that we call “terrorism”. It won’t be mass shootings; it will be neighborhoods lining up whatever Christians they can catch and chopping their heads off like is being done in many places of the world already. These “no-go zones” are just the beginning.

Trump is absolutely right to bring this issue to the front. Asymmetric warfare is among the LEAST of the problems with importing Muslims, yet it is the only problem that even my preferred candidate (Cruz) has been willing to address publicly to this point. Trump is moving the discussion past the true “politically correct” boundary and getting really real, really quick. A critical need for America right now, BEFORE the Islamic demographics are irreversible.


338 posted on 12/08/2015 7:42:45 AM PST by butterdezillion (.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I don’t follow your train of thought. Explain?


339 posted on 12/08/2015 7:47:06 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: butterdezillion

You deal with “no go zones” by GOING THERE. If it’s “no go” because police & others get harassed or worse just for being there, you enforce existing laws with gusto. Legitimate authorities are supposed to legitimately exercise their authority, even if it puts them in harm’s way - ESPECIALLY if it puts them in harm’s way. These “no go zones” are forming because they’re getting away with it. If the offenses seem orchestrated by non-citizens, then you get the National Guard et al in there if need be (I understand “Posse Comitatus Act”, which is not meant to stop our military from addressing invaders appropriately).


340 posted on 12/08/2015 7:59:43 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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