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The Erick Erickson Show:Karl Rove Helping Ben Carson Has Everything to do With Ted Cruz
Erickon the Radio ^ | November 28, 2015

Posted on 11/29/2015 6:43:35 AM PST by Isara

The press corps tends to go with the cheap, easy, and spoon-fed narrative. That narrative is that Karl Rove is opening doors and rolodexes for Ben Carson to stop Donald Trump.

That’s not it and people in the know, know it.

Carson is collapsing and his support is headed to Ted Cruz. In Iowa and elsewhere, Carson voters are toying with Cruz and Rubio. Rove wants an establishment guy.

On Bloomberg Politics With All Due Respect earlier this week, Rove listed Bush, Christie and Marco Rubio as the three candidates most likely to knock Trump off when “the other 70 to 75 percent of the party begins to coalesce behind somebody.”

Rove knows the odds are with Rubio as Bush is cratering and Christie has been moved to the kids’ table debate. But he has to worry that enough Trump and Carson supporters go to Cruz that it galvanizes the base toward Cruz. Immigration has become the galvanizing issue of the day and to much of the base Cruz trumps Rubio on that.

So Rove needs to keep Carson viable long enough to hold off Cruz. Don’t believe me? Look at the polling. Trump is holding steady at about 30%.

The [“other 70 to 75 percent” in Rove’s quote is a] reference is to Trump’s polling numbers. Though consistently leading the Republican pack since the summer, Trump has never been able to get much past the 30 percent mark in the polls tracked by Real Clear Politics.

Carson is starting to crash, Rubio is going up, and Cruz is going up. Cruz is going way up in Iowa and the Rubio camp has started firing shots at him on national security. It is just not a coincidence that now that this is happening, Rove is helping Carson.

If you have ever read Rove in the Wall Street Journal or listened to him on television, or for that matter read the Wall Street Journal editorial page, which worships Rove, all are consistently anti-Cruz and fear him as the nominee.

Rove helping Carson may superficially appear to be about Trump, but the reality is this is all about holding off a Carson supporter shift to Ted Cruz.


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To: CatherineofAragon

I am for American jobs, and American strength. I am for growing our own country.

Nobody else, has shown they are for this. Only Trump.


81 posted on 11/29/2015 10:02:20 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

LOL

/tic


82 posted on 11/29/2015 10:03:30 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

All that needs to be said on a Karl Rove $$ thread, about Trump...is that Trump is the ONLY candidate not owned by PACs/Cheap Labor groups.


83 posted on 11/29/2015 10:06:35 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I am for American jobs, and American strength. I am for growing our own country. Nobody else has shown they are for this. Only Trump.

Ridiculous. You're just not paying attention.

Ted Cruz on ISIS, Russia, Obama, missile defense, and the New START Treaty with Russia...

"If we want to actually dismantle ISIS, we need to dramatically change course. We need a real, robust campaign that maximizes our overwhelming air advantage.

We need to focus our efforts not on trying to create friends, but on supporting our real ones, especially the Kurds in Iraq and Syria who have actually had success against ISIS."

-snip-

"We can redouble our efforts to develop the defensive weapons that neutralized the offensive Soviet threat -- particularly missile defense, which has seen a 25% budget reduction under Obama, according to an analysis from the conservative Heritage Foundation, and has been constrained by bad arms deals like New START.

We should not only move quickly to install the canceled interceptor sites Putin opposed in Poland and the Czech Republic, but also to develop the next generation of systems that will only increase his discomfiture.

These options do not entail a ground war in Syria, yet would effectively shake us free from the failed policies that have brought us to our current impasse.

These options set us on a new path that puts Putin on notice that the United States is reclaiming our traditional role as leader of the free world."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/opinions/cruz-syria-putin/index.html

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"I think it would be a mistake to get involved in the Syrian civil war. There have been voices in Washington eager for us to send our sons and daughters over to fight that civil war for some time. I haven't been one of them. I think the touchstone of U.S. military policy should be protecting the national security of this country."

"What we're seeing Putin in Russia do is a direct response to the profound weakness of Obama over six and a half years.

Putin views Obama as weak, as ineffective, and frankly, as a laughingstock. And, as a result, he is moving in, he is invading his neighbors, like Ukraine, he's kidnapping Estonians, and he's moving into Syria to gain a stronger foothold in the Middle East."

https://www.tedcruz.org/news/icymi-cruz-we-have-no-business-getting-in-the-middle-of-the-syrian-civil-war-goal-should-be-to-defeat-isis/

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Ted Cruz:
"We need a coherent plan to address both the specific crisis in Syria and the challenge posed more broadly by Putin's resurgent Russia.

The good news is that America still has options, if our leaders can summon the will to exercise them.

For starters, in Syria we can't double down on the failed strategies that have given Putin his opportunity to intervene.

We are now two years out from President Obama's proposed intervention after al-Assad used chemical weapons against his own people. ..."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/opinions/cruz-syria-putin/index.html

84 posted on 11/29/2015 10:09:15 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: ETL

I see a lot in your article about the mid-east.

I don’t see what you were supposedly referring to about Cruz supporting more American jobs.

Maybe you could point me to that part?

Thanks. Go Trump. :D


85 posted on 11/29/2015 10:11:33 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Isara

The damned fools are going to put Hillary in the White House.


86 posted on 11/29/2015 10:16:57 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I just showed you you were dead wrong about Cruz not talking about increasing America’s strength. And it wasn’t only in regards to ISIS and the Middle East, it was about the increasing threat from Russia in Eastern Europe. As for Cruz and American job creation, I posted something to that previously.


87 posted on 11/29/2015 10:25:24 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: ETL

OK. Just wondering, that was actually my point, maybe I didn’t make myself 100% clear.

For over one entire generation, both political parties have completely sold out American businesses. And particularly American workers.

In my mind, Trump is the only candidate, in either party, saying that has gone on for far too long.

I agree, and that is why I strongly support him.

If you want to post anything about actually supporting American jobs here, I would appreciate that. Otherwise I will just say, that to me, is the most important topic in America today.

Trump is the only guy running for our leadership, who is saying it is time to be for America once again.

I completely agree.


88 posted on 11/29/2015 10:40:37 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
If you want to post anything about actually supporting American jobs here, I would appreciate that.

February 10, 2014

Cruz: Embrace the American Energy Renaissance


Previews bill to unleash good-paying jobs for Americans

WASHINGTON, DC -- U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, today outlined his vision for unleashing American jobs and opportunity by harnessing our nation's energy resources. He spoke at the Heritage Action for America's 2014 Conservative Policy Summit.

"A Great American Energy Renaissance is at our fingertips," Sen. Cruz said. "There is only one thing that will stop us from embracing it to its full potential: the federal government. Nothing else will stop the next generation of American energy pioneers. It won't be lack of determination, ingenuity, or grit. It will be some faceless bureaucrat who simply says, "You're not allowed to do that."

"Yes, President Obama should drop his political opposition to the Keystone XL oil pipeline. But we also need to think bigger than a single pipeline. Here we stand at the edge of an energy revolution that is sweeping the nation, providing an untold number of new opportunities and well-paying jobs."

"The government will not solve our economic problems by controlling the economy or placing bureaucratic barriers to growth. The only thing that it must do is what it did in the Ronald Reagan era: get out of our way and let Americans do what they do best: dream, innovate, and prosper. It's happening in Texas and it's happening in North Dakota. Now, we just have to convince Washington to let it spread through the rest of America."

In the coming days, Sen. Cruz will present a bill outlining steps to expand energy exploration, stop harmful regulations, and eliminate barriers to trade and infrastructure development so as to allow the creation of private sector jobs and economic growth.

I. Prevent the Federal Government From Undermining the American Energy Renaissance and the Jobs It Creates (1-5)

1) Prevent Federal Regulation of Hydraulic Fracturing.

Leave regulation of hydraulic fracturing in state hands

2) Improve Domestic Refining Capacity.

Streamline the permitting process for upgrading and building new refineries
Repeal the Renewable Fuel Standard

3) Improve Process to Develop Energy Infrastructure.

Approve and allow private sector to build the Keystone pipeline
Remove barriers to developing and approving additional national pipelines and cross-border energy infrastructure

4) Stop EPA Overreach and the War on Coal.

Exclude greenhouse gases from regulation by EPA and other federal agencies
Stop certain EPA regulations that will adversely impact coal and electric power plants

5) Force Congress and the President to Vote on EPA Regulations that Kill Jobs.

Require both Congress and the President to approve any EPA regulation that has a negative job impact

Support passage of the REINS Act, separate piece of legislation not included in this bill, which would require congressional approval of all major rules and regulations.

II. Expand Energy Development So More Private Sector Jobs Can Be Created (6-9)

6) Broaden Energy Development on Federal Land.

Increase energy development on federal land
Provide states the option of leasing, permitting and regulating energy resources on federal lands within their borders; or
If states do not wish to manage energy development on federal lands within their borders, the federal leasing, permitting and regulating will be reformed to increase energy development by:

Streamlining permitting for development on federal lands
Improving certainty in the leasing and development process
Expanding development of energy on federal lands
Expand energy development in National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska
Expand energy development on Indian lands
Open up the Coastal Plain of Alaska (ANWR) for development

7) Open Offshore Exploration.

Expand the offshore areas of the Outer Continental Shelf available for development
Streamline the permitting process for additional offshore exploration

8) Expand U.S. Energy Exports.

Expand LNG exports by facilitating permits
End the crude oil export ban
Prevent excessively broad environmental review of coal export terminals

9) Dedicate Additional Revenues to a Trust Fund for Debt Reduction

Direct all additional revenues generated by exploration and drilling on federal lands (excluding the share allocated to the states) exclusively to national debt reduction--"Debt Freedom Fund."

Speech excerpts:

"In the State of Texas doesn't matter where you are, you can be in East Texas, up in the Pan Handle or Rio Grand Valley, over and over again when you ask Americans what their top priority, the answer over and over again is restoring jobs, restoring economic growth.

"Today what I want to talk to you about is one specific avenue we can pursue to restore growth.

"We are seeing the beginning of an American energy renaissance. And if the federal government doesn't get in the way and mess it up, that has the potential to transform the situation for so many people who are struggling.

"Take a look at a state like North Dakota. The President has told us he wants to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour. Now what he doesn't confront is that the real Obama minimum wage is zero dollars because that's what everyone who has lost their jobs under the crushing taxes and crushing regulations is getting right now, is zero dollars with the Obama minimum wage.

"If you look at North Dakota, the average hourly wage in the oil and gas industry in North Dakota is $45.90 an hour. I'm a lot more interested in generating lots of jobs at those wage levels where people can provide for their family than continuing the path where more and more people who are struggling lose their jobs.

"In North Dakota, which is experiencing a boom because of shale gas and oil, the unemployment rate is 2.6%. In North Dakota, does anyone know the hourly pay for a cashier at Walmart? $17.50. In North Dakota, McDonald's is offering a $300 signing bonus because people can make so much in the oil fields it's hard to get people to flip burgers. That's the potential of growth.

"And it's happening in my home state of Texas as well. The Dallas Morning News reported last year that in West Texas, the flood of money and workers into the region is impossible to miss. Increased oil revenue is turning around poorer school districts. A high school graduate can earn more than $80,000 driving trucks. From 2001 to 2012, the number of Texas upper middle-income jobs grew 24.2%.

"We're seeing that as well in Pennsylvania and parts of Ohio, as they're taking advantage of the Marcellus Shale. Even so, it is striking if you look at the Marcellus shale, the shale doesn't end at the border between Pennsylvania and New York. But the jobs do. The jobs end because in New York they don't allow fracking.

"Now there is one thing and only one thing that can stop us from achieving the full potential of this energy renaissance and that is the government.

"Economic growth, the energy revolution, didn't come from the U.S. Department of Energy. It didn't come from any government agency. It didn't come from a grant program picking this is how we're going to transform energy. It didn't even come, with all due respect to our wonderful host, from a think tank in Washington. It came from entrepreneurs putting capital at risk and meeting a need.

"We cannot believe that government invents, creates or produces. It doesn't. What it often does it stifles creativity, invention, production. The only thing that can stop this great energy renaissance is the government getting in the way. And I will note, particularly with this administration, it's been doing that more and more. Right now, federal lands contain 43% of the nation's oil reserves and 28% of the nation's natural gas reserves. But significant portions of that land are not available for development. The number of new leases has fallen by 42%.

"President Obama's former Secretary of Energy... recently observed that the delay with the keystone pipeline is not scientific. It's political. There have been five environmental reviews, each of which has concluded the keystone pipeline does not raise significant environmental concerns; yet, it has not gone forward because this administration continues to block it. Tens of thousands of high-paying jobs with the stroke of a pen the private sector could be allowed to create, but this administration is not stroking that pen.

"But here's the point, as much as we need to approve the Keystone Pipeline, we need to think far broader than that. We need to do far more.

"In coming weeks, I will be introducing a bill, the American Energy Renaissance Act, that is designed to do two significant things.

Number one, to prevent the federal government from stopping the energy renaissance that is blossoming across the country.

And number two, to expand the lands, the resources that are available for the private sector to develop so that we can answer what the American people are asking for which is jobs and economic growth. This opportunity is right in front of us. If the federal government will simply listen to the American people."

http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=918

89 posted on 11/29/2015 10:55:49 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: ETL

OK but that’s just energy.

Where is Cruz saying he’s for American manufacturing once again?

Where is Cruz saying he’s for America IT jobs once again?

Energy is just one tiny part of our economy. At the moment we are running the largest-ever (by far) trade deficit with China, in recorded history. 343 billion dollars, just last year, just with that one country.

And it’s going up, yet again this year.

Where is Cruz on American manufacturing? Where is Cruz on American jobs.

Energy is not American industry. It is one industry, but there are a whole lot of others which have been sent overseas.

A whole lot. Cruz needs to come out strongly for American jobs.

I haven’t seen that. I really haven’t.


90 posted on 11/29/2015 11:01:35 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
The Simple Flat Tax

Ted Cruz: "Imagine 4.9 million new jobs. Instead of Obama's income stagnation, imagine average wages rising 12.2 percent over the next decade. Capital investment rising 43.9 percent. And every income-level seeing double-digit increases in after-tax income. Imagine exports and manufacturing jobs booming. Our trade deficit falling as the tax bias against American made goods is eliminated. Imagine a 10 percent income tax, with every American filling out his or her taxes on a postcard or iPhone app. And abolishing the IRS as we know it."

Summary:

It's time for the next American revolution; it's time to reignite growth in our economy. And the best way to do that is through fundamental tax reform. Cruz's Simple Flat Tax abolishes the IRS and replaces the byzantine tax code with a simple, fair tax. America's economic strength has been smothered by years of Obama's broken promises, and stifling mandates and taxes, such as those under Obamacare. A great stagnation has led to a lost workforce: Millions of Americans have given up trying to find work and acquire skills to improve their well-being. America needs a bold stroke of pro-growth tax policy to reignite the mighty U.S. economic engine. The Simple Flat Tax is a critical first step to restoring the promise of growth and prosperity in America.

Under the Simple Flat Tax, the current seven rates of personal income tax will collapse into a single low rate of 10 percent. For a family of four, the first $36,000 will be tax-free. The Child Tax Credit will remain in place, and the Simple Flat Tax Plan expands and modernizes the Earned Income Tax Credit with greater anti-fraud and pro-marriage reforms.

As a result, the Simple Flat Tax will ensure that low- and middle-income Americans have greater opportunities - not only through minimal taxes, but also through better, high-paying jobs that the Simple Flat Tax will generate. Under the plan, deductions for charitable contributions and mortgage interest payments are preserved.

The IRS will cease to exist as we know it, there will be zero targeting of individuals based on their faith or political beliefs, and there will be no way for thousands of agents to manipulate the system.

For businesses, the corporate income tax will be eliminated. It will be replaced by a simple Business Flat Tax at a single 16 percent rate. The current payroll tax system will be abolished, while maintaining full funding for Social Security and Medicare.

The convoluted tax code will be replaced with new rules of the game - so simple, in fact, that individuals and families could file their taxes on a postcard or phone app. The Death Tax will be eliminated. The Alternative Minimum Tax will be eliminated. The tax on profits earned abroad will be eliminated. And of course, the Obamacare taxes will be eliminated. Also gone will be the unending loopholes in the current code, the stacks of depreciation schedules for businesses, and the multi-tiered rates on income and investments. Under the Simple Flat Tax, the Internet remains free from taxes.

The results will be truly dramatic. According to the well-respected Tax Foundation, the Simple Flat Tax will deliver an economic boost of tremendous magnitude.

In the first decade, the Simple Flat Tax will:

Boost Gross Domestic Product by 13.9 percent above what is currently projected

Increase wages by 12.2 percent

Create 4,861,000 additional jobs

In the tax-cutting spirit of Presidents Ronald Reagan and John F. Kennedy, the Simple Flat Tax will lift Americans out of the current economic stagnation and into an historic boom. ..."

more:

https://www.tedcruz.org/tax_plan/

91 posted on 11/29/2015 11:17:46 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: ETL

OK thanks.

I don’t see any mention of evening out global trade, through actually evening out global trade, but that is an example of Ted Cruz saying he is for American growth and I very much appreciate that.

Thank you very much. Go Donald Trump, go Ted Cruz. :D


92 posted on 11/29/2015 11:22:23 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I am for American jobs, and American strength. I am for growing our own country.

Nobody else, has shown they are for this. Only Trump.

Psst! Do you know that Trump supported TARP, auto bailout and Porkulus bill, i.e., Trump is for big government and big businesses?

93 posted on 11/29/2015 11:58:02 AM PST by Isara
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To: Isara
It is a little suspicious that Rove badmouths Carson's chances to get the nomination one day and then offers him help a few days later.

If Karl Rove thinks Ben Carson is sinking, wouldn't it be more likely he'd encourage him to get out of the race, rather than to stay in?

I'm not convinced Ted Cruz is set to sweep to the nomination, but Erickson's argument is certainly plausible.

94 posted on 11/29/2015 12:31:14 PM PST by x
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To: palmer

...that’s because eminent domain is not about one “old woman” (childish insult on your part by the way) didn’t want to sell - eminent domain speaks to the VERY CORE of property rights and LIBERTY - and the case you reference is NOT THE ONLY TIME your man has used eminent domain.

It is a fundamental issue of limited government, period. Not just a specific case.


95 posted on 11/29/2015 1:32:25 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: ClearCase_guy; Isara; CatherineofAragon; Servant of the Cross
The chart that Isara keeps posting is known to be invalid.

How so? Every dot is explained in DETAIL for every candidate.

96 posted on 11/29/2015 1:32:25 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: basil
... (and I have no idea where the chart came from and if it has any validity) ...

Re-read the post and click on the link if you doubt where the chart came from. The poster tells you when posting the chart. Mark Levin, basically.

97 posted on 11/29/2015 2:03:55 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Isara

Shame on Mark Levin—that is a seriously misleading, anti-Trump graphic and it crushes the credibility of his web site.


98 posted on 11/29/2015 2:06:59 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Isara

Who is paying Karl Rove?


99 posted on 11/29/2015 2:09:20 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: alloysteel
What a great post.

Every time this happens and the primaries deliver a smushy lemon "Republican," everybody says, "Next time, dammit, we need to coalesce around a candidate soon!" Ted Cruz officially announced nice and early. So far, he's far and away the only guy worth voting for. Trump is a celebrity with the image of brilliant genius businessman, a media-made celebrity.

Cruz is a limited government conservative. He holds the Constitution as key. He's brilliant and has at least had some apprenticeship to the job. Running a business "brilliantly" is very different from being President. Trump lacks a political compass -- he is all talk.

Cruz has a record of walking the walk. So he's not a showman -- he's the guy to coalesce around.

100 posted on 11/29/2015 2:14:42 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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