Posted on 11/27/2015 1:53:09 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
Rep. Alan Grayson said Wednesday that he plans to file suit if Sen. Ted Cruz, who was born in Canada, wins the Republican presidential nomination. Speaking with liberal Fox News radio host Alan Colmes, Mr. Grayson, a Florida Democrat, called the 2016 Republican presidential lineup "appalling."
"It's resolved itself into this weird reality show. It's not 'The Biggest Loser' that they're choosing, it's 'The Biggest Bigot,'" he said. Mr. Colmes asked if all of the GOP candidates are bigots.
"Well show me one who represents the exception here," Mr. Grayson responded. "In a sense I guess Cruz is not technically that way, because he's technically not even an American."
"Well, his mother was born here," Mr. Colmes replied, "though it's interesting to me that the people who had a problem with Obama's birth certificate don't have a problem with Ted Cruz who literally was born in another country. And he renounced his Canadian citizenry."
Mr. Grayson added, "The Constitution says natural-born Americans, so now we're counting Canadians as natural-born Americans? How does that work? I'm waiting for the moment that he gets the nomination and then I will file that beautiful lawsuit saying that he's unqualified for the job because he's in eligible."
Asked if he's serious about his threat to sue, Mr. Grayson said "Absolutely. Call me crazy but I think the president of America should be an American." "Even the anchor babies actually are born here. He doesn't even meet that qualification," he added.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
"every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen." (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))
I did not know that. Thanks for posting it.
A professional useful idiot.
Don’tcha just love the election season trolls that rise up out of the ooze every primary season to destroy conservatives.
Its the same MO every 4 years. They show up, insert themselves in the crowd supporting the political Justin Beiber of the moment who can’t possibly win so they can attack conservatives from cover. When they manage to destroy the conservatives they then start to have “concerns” about Justin Beiber. When Beiber goes down they sadly announce that we gave it the old college try but the writing is on the wall and we have no choice but to support the GOPe nominee and then they disappear for another 4 years.
Thank you. That’s been my argument all along.
[ of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty ]
It’s just standard operating procedure.
It should not be possible for brain donors to run for office.
From military.findlaw
If the parents are married to each other, the child is a U.S. citizen if
One parent is a U.S. citizen, and the U.S. citizen parent lived in the U.S. for at least five years prior to the child's birth, at least two of which were after the age of fourteen.
In Cruzs' case the above is applicable. Then the procedure to acquire "birth citizenship" is:
After the parents have determined that their child is a U.S. citizen, they need to apply for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad at the nearest U.S. consulate. The parents will need to submit an application (PDF), along with documentation proving the parents' citizenship and the record of the child's birth from the resident country. The Consular Report of Birth Abroad can be used later as proof of the child's U.S. citizenship, and may be used to obtain a U.S. passport for the child. -
See more at: http://military.findlaw.com/family-employment-housing/military-children-born-abroad.html#sthash.1zXFHWSD.dpuf
Wow! That may put a whole new spin on things.
I would be curious to know when that law took effect. As, Cruz had always maintained he was a citizen in both countries, until he denounced the Canadian citizenship.
Hmmmm; that must mean that he was registered as an American Citizen ..?? Interesting.
Children born to military families overseas are often dual citizens. They are born of American parents (subject to the jurisdiction of the US government) and on American soil (military base) in a foreign country.
My son was born in Germany. He had dual citizenship until age 18 when he had to renounce his German citizenship.
Well .. you have it wrong.
Think about it .. All our military people who are placed all over the world .. are their children who are born in foreign countries - not American citizens ..??
You don’t have your facts correct.
Case closed!
Since Obama was not challenged on his NBC status, no president was set. Obama also provided "proof" of his birth on US soil.
Hundreds or thousands of posts during primary season followed by 4 years of silence followed but hundreds or thousands of posts during primary season.
Yes but that does not mean his is not a natural born citizen. Two US parents birth filed with US State Department and irregardless of what Germany says your child is a natural born citizen of the USA.
Me too, there are some very smart Freepers here many one of them can tell us.
Again from military.findlaw.com
Contrary to popular belief, military bases are not considered "U.S. soil" for citizenship purposes.
Until I researched it I too thought US bases overseas where US soil.
Yes, that is what I was saying. My son is natural born, by virtue of the fact that he has two parents who are American citizens, subject to the jurisdiction of the American government.
That I did not know, thanks.
Found it! From http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1664
Contained in this database are birth reports from U.S. Consulates abroad between the years of 1910 and 1949. The report form is called A Consular Report of Birth Abroad and is primary proof of the individual's American citizenship. To qualify, the child must have either two U.S. citizen parents with one of the parents having resided in the U.S. prior to the child's birth, or one of the child's parents must be a U.S. citizen who has resided in the U.S. for a specified number of years previous to the child's birth.
So this procedure for acquiring "Citizenship at birth" for the children of a US parent living abroad has been in place for over 100 years.
Ted father has a naturalized Canadian citizen. Was Ted mom in the process of being naturalized too?
Its the same MO every 4 years. They show up, insert themselves in the crowd supporting the political Justin Beiber of the moment who can’t possibly win so they can attack conservatives from cover. When they manage to destroy the conservatives they then start to have “concerns†about Justin Beiber. When Beiber goes down they sadly announce that we gave it the old college try but the writing is on the wall and we have no choice but to support the GOPe nominee and then they disappear for another 4 years."
They're all over the forum, letting their liberal flags fly, but as long as they support the Justin Bieber of the moment, folks ignore it.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii#section1
US Constitution, Article 2, Section 1:
The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:
Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.
The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves. And they shall make a list of all the persons voted for, and of the number of votes for each; which list they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. The person having the greatest number of votes shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such majority, and have an equal number of votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately choose by ballot one of them for President . . .
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My interpretation is that this gives the states control over ballot access and Congress jurisdiction over presidential eligibility. Neither is subject to the Supreme Court on this issue. When the states and then Congress allowed the communist to take power on January 8, 2009, that settled the question of whether an anti-American traitor of questionable background could hold that office. The same determination will be made on or before January 6, 2017 - if the President of the Senate, in front of Congress, counts the ballots and recognizes the votes of the electors, then the question is settled. [Under the generous assumption that the Supremes stay within their proper bounds.]
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