Of course, the real first thanksgivings were celebrated in Europe, and that went on even before the Vikings first introduced the practice to the New World. /s
Posted on 11/26/2015 6:43:03 AM PST by cotton1706
In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are under-written, the loyal subjects of our dread sovereign Lord, King James, by the grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken, for the glory of God, and advancement of the Christian faith, and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one of another, covenant and combine our selves together into a civil body politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the eleventh of November [New Style, November 21], in the year of the reign of our sovereign lord, King James, of England, France, and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Dom. 1620.
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I was born in Houston without A/C in 1940 . My parent didn’t get it until over 20 years later.
We had no idea how miserable we were! ; )
I try to go through them but I quit and do something else. I must resolve to do better.
I was reading some info from Williamsburg College and found the name of one of our ancestors . The poor guy got in trouble with the Presbyterians and they cut off his ear.
I had no idea that the Presbyterians would do something like that. There is a P. church just down the street, I'd better be careful.
Presbyterians didn’t run the show in colonial Virginia, they were outsiders who typically tried to live outside the reach of the state church. That doesn’t justify maiming a person, but there might be more behind it than you know because they were not the religious authority there.
I lived in Fresno CA without AC during the same time period, but (at least) desert air coolers worked there. Or, in a pinch, a fan blowing over a block of ice (the solution during WWII.) Houston had/has humidity which is a whole different animal!
It does annoy me how the Taxachusetts and Virginians ignore the first real colony in America, Roanoke, NC!!
My family is traceable back to William Bradford. Amazing.
I do hesitate to sound off on the "First Colony" claims. Anyway being born in England I have been most interested. I went up to my attic and got my album out. I have visited the Jamestowne historical park area in 1960. I have a photograph of the recreated vessel- The Susan Constant. She looks perfectly made. The two others were "The Discovery" and the "God Speed".
I got researching again and the Parks Service show a considerable and careful park exhibition of the past days. Well worth a visit. I know there were old disagreements about being first. One diplomatic statement was that the Plymouth settlement "was the first PERMANENT settlement". The Roanoke settlement in Virginia circa 1594 has a claim to being first. Few traces of this settlement were found later by the vessels sent out to supply the settlement. No one there. Virginia Dare was the first white female born there.
I believe and stand corrected that Jamestown did not survive as a permanent colony. Disease devastated it. "The bloodie flux" is blamed for much of it. I would presume diarrhea. The listing of the 104 names and the mariners is available.
A bit of a ramble here but got carried away by old memories of my first excursions into the USA.
Yes, humidity makes it all different.
Sometimes we will have low humidity ( anything below 40% is considered low here. We don’t cool off very much at night and the humidity gets higher.
I know in low humidity places you can close the windows at night and keep the cool air in the next day. That doesn’t work here, it would not take a transplant more than a day to figure it out.
Be annoyed, the First Thanksgiving feast was at Plimouth in 1621 (they had a fasting Thanksgiving prior to that but where’s the fun in celebrating that every year?), additionally the New England Patriots are 10 - 0.
There’s a four hour show “Saints and Strangers” re-playing right now on National Geographic, looping throughout the night.
Additionally there’s another show tonight @ 9:30 on PBS - The Pilgrims.
That must have been before they changed the spelling.
Twas, that’s how they spelled Plimouth back in the day.
Hmmm...
I guess they dropped the u too.
Thanks afraidfortherepublic.
Old family stories and legends can be very interesting and shed light on local perceptions that were sometimes very different from recorded history. Some of mine were convinced they were fighting Hessians again in the Civil War, just as their grandfathers and great-grandfathers had in the Revolution.
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