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Coming to grips with a President Trump
Orange County Register ^ | 11/22/2015

Posted on 11/22/2015 6:13:22 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Nate Silver, editor in chief of FiveThirtyEight, the dream site for statistics nerds, crystallized the bewilderment of the analyst class in trying to process the ongoing triumph of Donald Trump.

"About 25 percent of Americans identify as Republican. Donald Trump's getting about 25 percent of that 25 percent in the polls. Why is this impressive to people?" Silver tweeted, drawing more than 1,000 retweets and likes apiece.

The answer, of course, is twofold. First, that fourth-of-a-fourth is exactly the sort that often can wield such outsized influence in American presidential primary politics. Second, and even more to the point, is the mere existence of that particular fraction as an electorate that matters.

It matters because - in a subliminally resonant reminder of what jars us so much about ISIS - it's a political force at once freakishly dated and remarkably of-the-moment. Analogies fail. Trump's support cannot be reduced to another effusion of the conservative id or know-nothing nativism, however much it taps into or avails itself of those forces.

In a recent rant drawing quiet support from more than a few of the rising generation's media types, one Gawker writer flipped the script on Trump's fellow anti-refugee Republicans by fingering "dumb hicks" as "America's greatest threat." At a time when middle-age white males are dying at a stunning historic rate, it's easy to see how Trump might become a totem for the coarsely reactionary.

But Trump also draws potent support from a certain kind of elite: one with a visceral contempt for political ideology as such. Silicon Valley has helped spread the idea that what makes people "dumb" is seeing the world through political lenses, but among many of the rich and successful, it is taking on the cast of dogma.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; donaldtrump; election2016; elections; fivethirtyeight; natesilver; newyork; trump
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Yes! Go Trump...prayerfully, our next President!
1 posted on 11/22/2015 6:13:22 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
President Trump Cabinet

Jefferson Sessions as Vice President

Department of State, (return INS.) Newt Gingrich
Department of Justice Rep. Steve King
Department of Treasury, (includes former Homeland Security - Customs) Carl Icahn (Offered and Accepted)
Department of War, (change the name back.) Include former VA function Gen. James Mattis
Department of Interior, (includes the legitimate functions only of former Dept. of Transportation, Dept. of Homeland Security - Border Patrol, and Energy Departments) Gov. Palin
Department of Labor and Commerce Herman Cain

This proposed model has the President directly managing seven subordinates which is optimal.

Department of Homeland Security ELIMINATE
Department of Education ELIMINATE as proposed by The Donald, 9/23/25 at a Columbia, SC Town Hall with Sen. Tim Scott.
Department of Energy ELIMINATE
Department of Health and Human Services ELIMINATE
Department of Housing and Urban Development ELIMINATE
Department of Veterans Affairs ELIMINATE
Department of Agriculture ELIMINATE
Department of Transportation ELIMINATE

On Fox news Sunday, 10/18/15 Trump said he would cut funding for EPA and Dept. of Ed.

In non-cabinet level jobs

Sheriff Clarke should be FBI Director
Michelle Bachman as IRS Commissioner under Secretary Carl Icahn in Treasury
Admiral James A. Ace Lyons as Undersecretary of War Navy Branch.
LTC Allen West as Undersecretary of War Army Branch.
Lt. Gen. Tom McInerney as Undersecretary of War Air Force Branch.
Lynnette Diamond Hardaway and Rochelle Silk Richardson would be great as President Trumps Co-Press Secretaries.

Marsha Blackburn, Speaker of the House
Ted Cruz as Senate Majority Leader.

2 posted on 11/22/2015 6:16:48 PM PST by ASA Vet (Trump is the only candidate since Reagan that I have actually WANTED to vote for.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
Yes! Go Trump...prayerfully, our next President!

I am joining you in those prayers. This country is direly in need of a strong America First Leader, who will not be controlled by rich donors.

3 posted on 11/22/2015 6:18:25 PM PST by entropy12
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To: ASA Vet

I would return Navy to cabinet status (separate from War). If we build the Navy I think Trump will, it will be fine.

I would abolish the Department of the Air Force, returning bombardment and fighter protection to an Army Air Corps and keeping Marine and Naval Aviation as is.


4 posted on 11/22/2015 6:21:48 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
Nate Silver, editor in chief of FiveThirtyEight, the dream site for statistics nerds, crystallized the bewilderment of the analyst class in trying to process the ongoing triumph of Donald Trump.

Liberal dweeb Silver still stuck in an alternate universe who cannot see reality. Suck it up princess.

5 posted on 11/22/2015 6:23:06 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: ASA Vet

I hope you’re extremely wrong in your proposals; what we don’t need right now is another herd of politicians, most of which have caught the Washingtonian flu, riding shotgun over government. We honestly need the executive to draw from outside the political spectrum, and most especially, not dilute the already precious few conservative votes that are left in Congress.

What we honestly don’t need is more politicians running things. That’s what gets us moronic dictates like ‘no saying Merry Christmas at the VA’ because someone ‘might interpret it as a state religion.’

I’m sure that’s a great wishlist, but for me, it is yet another nightmare of politicos who’ll fill junior positions with their family members who will be unfireable as they’re related to the movers and shakers in Washington.


6 posted on 11/22/2015 6:23:18 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

The poor OC Register, how saddened they must be having to give up column inches to Trump that they could have used to promote illegal aliens.


7 posted on 11/22/2015 6:31:45 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

For some reason I cannot find the Bill Bennett thread about the GOPe going after Trump because he is upsetting their apple cart. This story sorts of ties in.


8 posted on 11/22/2015 6:32:52 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: kingu

3 out of 6 of my remaining cabinet spots are not politicians. Who do you suggest in those other 3, and the VP slot?


9 posted on 11/22/2015 6:33:31 PM PST by ASA Vet (Trump is the only candidate since Reagan that I have actually WANTED to vote for.)
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To: Parley Baer

Pulled - to be confirm or something.


10 posted on 11/22/2015 6:38:08 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: ASA Vet

I want a VP that does not come from the Senate.
If the conservatives hold the Senate I’d rather not have to have a special election to fill a spot and risk a governor appointing a RINO

I think Trump needs to take someone from sort of outside the normal raft of candidates for veep

I half jokingly suggested this guy a few days ago. The longer I look the better he looks. This is the type of pick Trump needs.

He is a double minority (in this case Hispanic & Chamorro)who considers himself to be first and foremost an American.

He is devoutly religious (Roman catholic) to play against Trumps lapsed Presbyterianism

He is a family man who has only been married once (As opposed to Trump having been married three times)and has 6 children all by the same woman.

He is a Law and order guy (Tripled the territorial police force)

He is fiscally conservative (He took the territory from bankruptcy to a budgetary surplus)

He is pro military

Ladies and Gentlemen I give you the Governor of Guam the honorable:
Edward Jerome Baza Calvo

Future Vice President of the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Calvo

Please notice there is some humor in this post but this is the kind of person I think Trump should pick. I believe that part of the bump McCain got from picking Palin was the novelty factor. Sarah Palin made a good first impression but sort of soured on some people later. Eddie makes a good impression and is, I think a better politician the Sarah Palin.

Trump/Calvo 2016


11 posted on 11/22/2015 7:18:06 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: kingu
Department of Homeland Security ELIMINATE Department of Education ELIMINATE as proposed by The Donald, 9/23/25 at a Columbia, SC Town Hall with Sen. Tim Scott. Department of Energy ELIMINATE Department of Health and Human Services ELIMINATE Department of Housing and Urban Development ELIMINATE Department of Veterans Affairs ELIMINATE Department of Agriculture ELIMINATE Department of Transportation ELIMINATE On Fox news Sunday, 10/18/15 Trump said he would cut funding for EPA and Dept. of Ed.

This part's solid...

12 posted on 11/22/2015 7:22:17 PM PST by GOPJ (Syrians escape to live well in US & EU..Our troops go to Syria to die in their place. It's nuts.)
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To: Fai Mao

And I will take Jeff Sessions. No baggage and sage of the Senate.


13 posted on 11/22/2015 7:24:16 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK

Honestly I expect it to be Jeff Sessions.

I’m just pumping Calvo to have some fun but to show there might be some good candidates out there that are under the normal RADAR.


14 posted on 11/22/2015 7:25:55 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Fai Mao

You know, you’re saying what Trump has said, himself, on a couple of occasions.. there are those we don’t necessarily know about.


15 posted on 11/22/2015 7:29:29 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I am not impressed with Silver at all. I reviewed his methods and sources and he’s doing pretty much what the rest of the analyst crowd is doing except with a tweak on a statistical model here and there. And the tweaks are minor. The sources he uses include past voting patterns and census data which everyone else in that field uses.

His name is mostly a product of marketing.

All polls suck badly because of the extremely high rate of non-responses which ruin the sample design as representative of the population. Polls serve only as vehicles of ‘public opinion shaping’ and campaign propaganda. That said, the samples do show Trump on top but the polls are not the be-all end-all of what’s really happening.

Donald benefits from being attractive to many diverse demographics. That’s his strength and that’s why he will win. He inspires and instills confidence.

But back to Silver. Silver says 1/4 of 1/4. Well that’s not the story. Because Donald is winning over huge sections of independents and conservative democrats “Reagan Democrats”.

Here’s the key fact that Silver fails to mention. Independents now number 42% of the electorate. That’s huge or as Trump would say “YUGE”. In 2010 Independents made up 24% of the electorate, but by 2014 that percentage grew to 42%. Silver conveniently ignored that fact. And I know Silver doesn’t like Trump because the slush money that circulates inside the Beltway is predicated on these pollsters being able to shave and style data results to please the customer. Trump throws a wrench into their world so they’re mad just like all the other Beltway parasites.


16 posted on 11/22/2015 7:57:37 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Red Steel

This time watch as Democrat cross over voters will cast their votes for Trump—Union guys would rather support Trump than Hillary. Once he gets the nod—watch the ground swell of support from all parts of the nation. He isn’t like anything we have seen before—lets hope he stays safe and he can really do some good in the White House—I don’t care if he paints it Gold! I am ready to give him a chance.


17 posted on 11/22/2015 8:21:34 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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Have you seen this? Great straight talking from this cat. He doesn't mince words!

https://youtu.be/kTIGwdRC33

18 posted on 11/22/2015 8:28:59 PM PST by Rona Badger (Heeds the calling wind.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
RCP averages 11/22/2015
19 posted on 11/22/2015 8:33:34 PM PST by entropy12
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Have you seen this? Great straight talking from this cat. He doesn’t mince words!

https://youtu.be/kTIGwdRC33w

Try this one.


20 posted on 11/22/2015 8:34:10 PM PST by Rona Badger (Heeds the calling wind.)
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