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Attorneys Representing Biker Clubs Deliver Statement Thursday in Waco
NBCDFW.com ^ | 11/19/2015 | Jeff Smith

Posted on 11/19/2015 3:39:42 PM PST by Elderberry

Thirty defense attorneys representing most of the 106 people charged in connection with the deadly Waco Twin Peaks shootout are asking for charges to be dropped.

The May 17 shootout between rival biker clubs left nine people dead and 18 more hospitalized with stab or gunshot wounds. Police arrested 177 bikers after the shooting, and all of them had bond set at $1 million.

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Last week, a grand jury indicted 106 of the 177 bikers on charges of organized criminal activity with the intent to commit or conspire to commit murder, capital murder or aggravated assault. It's a first-degree felony charge.

The grand jury is still deciding whether to indict the others.

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The defense attorneys who met Thursday said their clients did not plan, encourage or participate in any violence, and they are not gang members.

The attorneys said their clients came to Twin Peaks to attend a well-publicized meeting for all motorcycle clubs across the state, where riders could socialize, eat and talk about upcoming legislation.

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The attorneys said once detectives learned their biker clients were hiding for cover during the violent shootout, they should never have been arrested.

"I have no problem if police want to detain and question, that's their job. But they didn't detain and question. They just arrested en masse and set a bond at $1 million. There's a huge difference between detain and investigate, and arrest," said Dallas-based criminal defense attorney Susan Anderson, who is representing a group of accused bikers.

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Just within the last two days, at least six of the indicted bikers have filed lawsuits against the police and district attorney in federal court, alleging their civil rights were violated by being falsely arrested with template-based "fill-in-the-name" indictments.

Attorney Clinton Broden said the "template affidavits" contained allegations that were demonstrably false for most of the bikers who were part of the group rounded up and arrested.

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Several people spent more than three weeks in jail, and at least one person spent 40 days locked up.

"I speculate there will be more," said attorney Susan Criss, representing several of the indicted bikers. "Each defendant has to decide what case they have and what their damages are. It's an individual decision that has yet to be made by many people. But I'd be shocked if there wasn't more civil cases coming soon."

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No one has been charged with murdering anyone. The 106 indictments are about criminal conspiracy.

"In order to be guilty of the offense of engaging in organized crime, you have to be more than merely present. It doesn't matter what you're wearing. It doesn't matter who you're associating with," Anderson said. "The issue is whether or not these people met for the purpose of criminal activity."

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Anderson said rather than investigate who was armed during the shootout, police sold a story to the media about rival gang members agreeing to meet at the restaurant to settle a turf-war with violence. She said that mentality led to unwarranted arrests, with "identical fill-in-the-name" arrest affidavits.

"We have extreme serious concerns about the process at every single step of the way," said attorney Susan Criss. "You don't just indict everybody and say, 'Let's go to trial and we'll sort it out.'"

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A gag order is keeping a lid on new information, but in the days after the May 17 shooting, Waco police recovered about 450 weapons and 150 guns from the crime scene. Police at the time said the amount of weapons, and they fact that violence broke out so quickly, indicated the meeting was never intended to be a peaceful gathering.

"They didn't arrest everybody. There were many civilians in there. They didn't arrest them. They didn't arrest the wait staff. So they picked and chose who they wanted to arrest. They made the decision on site to arrest all the bikers, without any further investigation," Anderson said.

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The lawyers said they are waiting to receive discovery documents that will exculpate their clients, particularly the ballistic reports.

"Those reports critical. We have nine people that are dead. We need to know what bullets killed which people. We need to know which guns fired those bullets that killed those people. Were they bullets from persons in the clubs? Were they bullets from police? We don't know," Anderson said.

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And many defense attorneys believe those reports - which investigators still haven't completed - will result in most of charges being dropped.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biker; texas; waco
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To: Cboldt

I really want to see the ballistic reports


21 posted on 11/19/2015 5:26:26 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: X-spurt

“Ever been to Waco? Ever even been to Texas?”

As a matter of fact, I’ve been numerous places in Texas. Almost took a job there years ago, but I’m glad I didn’t because it’s not a place that I would care to live. Nice folks though. I probably shouldn’t have responded to you because of your insulting nature, but my opinion of Waco still stands, and there have been posts here on FR from Texans to the effect that what passes for the justice system in McClennan (sp?) county reflects badly on an othewise pretty decent state.


22 posted on 11/19/2015 5:42:02 PM PST by vette6387
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http://www.kplctv.com/story/30563565/waco-bikers-lawyers-contest-prosecutors-discovery-waiver

WACO, Texas (AP) - Defense attorneys representing bikers who were arrested after a shooting outside a Texas restaurant say they don’t have access to key evidence because they refuse to sign the district attorney’s unusual agreement to not share it with media.

Attorney Susan Anderson said at a news conference Thursday that the agreement violates the state’s Michael Morton Act, which says prosecutors must permit defense attorneys access - without conditions - to the evidence “as soon as practicable.”

Defense attorneys plan to contest the agreement in court.


23 posted on 11/19/2015 5:44:36 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: vette6387; X-spurt
I probably shouldn't have responded to you because of your insulting nature,

Spurt has incurable butthurt because of epic fail to get Waco discussion banned.

Jim, I bring this to your attention due to the many threads posted by bike gang sympathizers in which threats and personal attacks have been issued against many Freepers who challenge the voracity of the claims and arguments posted by these bike gang sympathizers. Are these many and continuing similar threads which are in support of criminal bike gangs like Bandidos, on FR something FR wishes to continue? I hope, like the mass of pro Ron Paul threads, these too can be stopped so FR can be allowed not being lumped in as supporting these outlaw gangs by association.

24 posted on 11/19/2015 5:50:11 PM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: vette6387
"what passes for the justice system in McClennan (sp?) county reflects badly on an othewise pretty decent state."

Weird Austin notwithstanding....;-)

25 posted on 11/19/2015 6:06:44 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: r_barton
I don’t care what happens to any of them.

Nice...

26 posted on 11/19/2015 6:24:57 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Paladin2
The cops could have taken out all of the biker murderers

Yeah, but that thin blue line principle keeps them from shooting their bad apples to protect the public.

27 posted on 11/19/2015 6:26:38 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Paladin2

“”what passes for the justice system in McClennan (sp?) county reflects badly on an othewise pretty decent state.”
Weird Austin notwithstanding....;-)”

Well Austin is the seat of Texas’ government, plus it has a state university, so your comment goes wtihout saying!!! Even in the reddest of states, this is probably true.


28 posted on 11/19/2015 6:51:53 PM PST by vette6387
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To: r_barton
Get them off the streets.

They were off the streets, numbnuts. They were in a parking lot.

Maybe you are scared of motorcycles.

Riding motorcycles does not make you a "thug".

Wearing leathers (which are protective clothing) is highly recommended.

These people were at a meeting to discuss political issues, event scheduling, and other issues. They were from several different groups, and two thirds of them had no criminal record.

Some thuggery.

29 posted on 11/20/2015 12:14:53 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: r_barton
I don't care what happens to any of them.

You may not be alone in this. Hell, you may be in the majority. You can be assured, however, there are many law abiding motorcyclists (as well as law abiding non-motorcyclists) who care quite deeply what happens to all of them. I am one of those law abiding motorcyclists.

You should care. You may find yourself judged similarly because those around you wore the "wrong" clothing or some other such nonsense. Perhaps it will be your career destroyed and life ruined because of some knee-jerk association with the latest fashionable stereotype.

Republican? Christian? Gun Owner? SUV Driver? Smoker? Anglo Saxon? FReeper?

Letting this brick be added to the wall may lead to your own undoing someday.
30 posted on 11/20/2015 5:43:51 AM PST by BraveMan
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