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Trump homes in on national security days after Paris attacks
CNN ^ | November 17, 2015 | Jeremy Diamond

Posted on 11/17/2015 11:56:12 AM PST by don-o

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To: Finny

So neither candidate is greater than the other one, except one is a ‘politician’ and the other is a ‘multi-billion dollar businessman’ .....which one do you think the American People are flooding Convention centers and sports arenas with 20,000 to 30,000 people?

OUCH!!!


21 posted on 11/17/2015 2:58:12 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: flaglady47; UCANSEE2; MinuteGal; hoosiermama; onyx; Jane Long; DoughtyOne; entropy12; ...

Personality trumps everything else in nationwide presidential races. That is why we never had a Billionaire elected before. They do not resonate with people. Every video I see of Trump events, the mutual love with audience shines clear through. No one else is coming even close to Trump in connecting with people.


22 posted on 11/17/2015 3:03:15 PM PST by entropy12 (Why nobody except Trump is allowed to say DEPORT? Cuz other's rich donors will not allow it!)
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To: Finny

If strictly shrinking government size is your priority #1, then pick Rand Paul. But in 2016 there are many more serious issues, starting with invasion of 10’s of millions of illegals, majority of whom are not productive and sponging off tax payers. Rand Paul will not deport even half of the illegals. And neither will any of the others, except Trump. I am yet to hear the word ^DEPORT^ from any candidate except Trump.

I have never seen a successful businessman who tolerates waste and in-efficiency. And I have never seen a successful businessman who likes to run deficits. And I have never seen a successful businessman who is afraid to cut expenses where necessary. Nobody better in 2016 than Trump.


23 posted on 11/17/2015 3:10:12 PM PST by entropy12 (Why nobody except Trump is allowed to say DEPORT? Cuz other's rich donors will not allow it!)
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To: flaglady47

Bobby is pulling out. He’s on FOX now


24 posted on 11/17/2015 3:11:24 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Finny; HarleyLady27

Triple ouch, for you Fiiny.

If you recall, the foreign and MSM were first reporting this invasion to be “poor, defenseless refugees”.

It was after the NEW media - aided by several astute FReepers- uncovered the truth about these “widdle refugees”, that Trump, who I swear lurks here, quickly called for ZERO refugees to be allowed in to US, once that was determined. (the day or two after)


25 posted on 11/17/2015 3:16:28 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: hoosiermama

Good for Jindal About time.

Now, KaSick, bush, Linda, pataki and the others need to do, as well.


26 posted on 11/17/2015 3:18:23 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: entropy12
You're absolutely right. He actually cares about them. You can't fake that. He stays after events and mingles. He's a class act.


After the events in Paris on 11/13, I will be adding
this to my posts for the next week. I'm certain our
turn is coming again soon. We stand united against
Islamic extremists.


Some music for reflection if the mood strikes you.
Courtesy of: Kartographer
beautiful [02:23]

An honorable mention also goes out to Lassana Bathily , a Muslim immigrant from Mali.
Mr. Bathily sheltered customers at the Jewish Deli and helped police by providing info
on the terrorists, and providing the location of survivors in the deli.
Courtesy of:
Tijera_Slim

27 posted on 11/17/2015 3:19:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I hope he comes to Utah...a lot of us were on the phones yesterday and emailing to get Our State to go with the others, we made it!!!

TRUMP=An AMERICAN FIRST!!!


28 posted on 11/17/2015 3:20:47 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27
With sincere respect, the candidates are VERY different from each other. Remember that I like and admire Trump.

One is a patriotic politician who has been a limited government conservative and learned Constitutionalist for decades, the other is a self-promoted patriotic celebrity businessman who for 21 of the past 26 years donated more to Democrats than to Republicans for his own financial gain and that of his shareholders.

That an expert professional showman like Trump, with seven recent years of hosting a hit self-promoting TV show under his belt, is able to flood Convention centers and sports arenas with tens of thousands of fans, is hardly surprising.

What's surprising is that so many supposedly level-headed conservatives are so prone to near hero worship of a media celebrity (I admit to the same failing when Schwarzenegger ran for governor and I voted for him with the same faith and enthusiasm I see here among worthy Trump-supporting FRiends).

Cruz isn't perfect, and I never said he was, no more than you have ever said that Trump is perfect. But Cruz IS a functioning limited government Christian conservative with a history to prove it.

Trump's history only proves that he is a great showman and self-promoter -- I say he is a great businessman, but in truth the only reason I say that is because that's the image he has self-promoted for many years in pop media. In that regard, I am as guilty as anyone in accepting the narrative that Trump is a "brilliant businessman."

I know I have seen others here and there say Trump is really just a lucky guy who inherited his wealth (that latter part is true); I tend to give Trump the benefit of doubt on his business prowess because IIRC, he has lost, re-earned, and increased his wealth as well as that of his stockholders. In America, that's a good thing and Trump rightly celebrated for it.

HOWEVER, and you would do well to remember this, beloved Harley Lady (I love Harleys!), he did it by contributing to the cause of tyranny in his financial support of leftists like Harry Reid, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, etc. as "the cost of doing business."

Clearly he put the cause of liberty second to the cause of financial gain. Great in a businessman ... very bad in a president.

It's obvious to me that Cruz is the better guy for the White House and for limited government Constitutional conservatism.

29 posted on 11/17/2015 3:20:47 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: HarleyLady27
Yes, Trump is an American First.

Well said.

Good work, by the way.


After the events in Paris on 11/13, I will be adding
this to my posts for the next week. I'm certain our
turn is coming again soon. We stand united against
Islamic extremists.


Some music for reflection if the mood strikes you.
Courtesy of: Kartographer
beautiful [02:23]

An honorable mention also goes out to Lassana Bathily , a Muslim immigrant from Mali.
Mr. Bathily sheltered customers at the Jewish Deli and helped police by providing info
on the terrorists, and providing the location of survivors in the deli.
Courtesy of:
Tijera_Slim

30 posted on 11/17/2015 3:26:55 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: Finny

This summer Dr Carson was on Cavuto ( he’s known Trump for decades ) the next morning Alice Cooper was on F & F They both said the same thing the public Trump is nothing like the private.
Cooper said it best. He a public Rock Star is nothing like the married 40 years , sober 30 years born again Christian who works with troubled youth.
( Cooper is a regular in Trump foresome)
Both said he is one of the most considerate, thoughtful, kindest people they know. And both mentioned how giving and generous Trump is. I have a half dozen or more stories to back that last statement Stories Trump doesn’t want to publicize


31 posted on 11/17/2015 3:31:20 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Finny
And if you read his ‘Art of the Deal’ you would find his father gave him nothing except expert advise and taught him how to manage money and how to become successful, and the money his father loaned him, he paid back with interest...he inherited nothing....

I like Trump because of who Trump is, I like the fact he is for AMERICA and for AMERICANS first, he isn't in this for any self gain, he's self funding, and he doesn't plan on taking his salary, already said he was donating it to the Vets...which he loves by the way, he is out spoken, he is for immigration, he is for the border wall, he has 4 plans out now, he is always going and doing, he has taught his family what a dollar means and they are very very successful as is he, his wife is a beauty, and the man has ‘common sense’ and has a way to know what is right and what is wrong...he wants jobs in America for American people and will go after them, he will get rid of obumacare and let us be able to afford healthcare, he is for social security and medicare, he will get rid of common core which is stopping our children from learning the proper common sense way...

Yes Trump is more than the man for the Oval Office and I will vote for him, and I support him 100% and I will fight to the end for him to get to the Presidency to save America!!!

TRUMP=An AMERICAN FIRST!!!

32 posted on 11/17/2015 3:32:19 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: entropy12
You won't hear the word "DEPORT" standing alone from me either because I live on the front lines. Trying to deport every illegal Mexican alien will result in bloodshed and horrific cultural divide, and frankly, I'd be torn as to what side to take because I've known a lot of Mexicans who are more honest and have a better work ethic than a lot of Americans. I've worked side-by-side with them.

Illegals from third-world countries are here because our GOVERNMENT-CAUSED minimum wage for a non-skilled bottom-rung job is enough income to feed whole families in their home countries, where many live in cardboard box villages.

Add to that freebies such as education, medical care, supplemental housing, and other entitlements, GOVERNMENT-CAUSED attractions that bring them here and keep them here. Remove those purely excessive GOVERNMENT-CAUSED attractions, and a whole lotta illegals will leave, as in "self deport." Sure, deport illegals who are caught red-handed, I'm all for that, but going on a mission to root them out and forcefully deport them WILL result in bloodshed. Again, I live here on the front lines and have all my life; illegal Mexicans have been here for decades; it is only until relatively recently (minimum wage, increase in government tax-funded handouts) that they have been considered a real problem.

Cruz is a level-headed Constitutionalist with an impressive track record of learned experience (he has argued before the Supreme Court nine times, he was a Supreme Court clerk before that, among other things). He's not perfect, but he is a politician guided by a political compass that is like my own and like the Founders'.

You have never seen a successful businessman whose primary goal wasn't to grow and make prosper whatever business he ran. If you want government to grow and prosper, vote for a businessman president.

Seeing as how government is the primary cause of most of our problems (as Reagan said, government isn't the solution to our problems, government is the problem), I will vote for a limited government Constitutional conservative politician for president.

You should, too.

33 posted on 11/17/2015 3:42:27 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: hoosiermama
I can believe those stories. Jerry Brown is also said to be a helluva nice guy, very generous, a straight shooter, and honest. I believe those stories too because I trust their sources.

Just the same, obviously Brown would make a lousy president. Trump, nice guy and great patriot that his is, lacks an essential political compass. He's a wild card that I bet will end up betraying conservatives in a big (if well-meaning) way if he got elected and one had better perceive his marked moderate tendencies before casting the ballot. Heed my tagline.

34 posted on 11/17/2015 3:48:22 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Finny

“You won’t hear the word “DEPORT” standing alone from me either because I live on the front lines. Trying to deport every illegal Mexican alien will result in bloodshed and horrific cultural divide, and frankly, I’d be torn as to what side to take because I’ve known a lot of Mexicans who are more honest and have a better work ethic than a lot of Americans. I’ve worked side-by-side with them”

Lets dissect that paragraph:

The fact that you live on the front lines is not cogent to anything other than your unfortunate geographical location.

The illegals are here “illegally” which means they are not supposed to be here. Deporting them is part of our standing immigration laws. It will not create blood shed or cultural divide. The illegals already do both. When they are gone we will have less bloodshed and cultural divide.

The fact that you know illegal Mexican aliens and admire them does not make them any less illegal or any less deserving of deportation. They need to go home.


35 posted on 11/17/2015 3:59:39 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: entropy12
Slight clarification: Again, I live here on the front lines and have all my life; illegal Mexicans have been here for decades; it is only until relatively recently (minimum wage, increase in government tax-funded handouts) that they have been considered a real problem.

Actually, illegal Mexicans have been part of the California scene for generations, as far back as the folks I know can remember (my family on both sides of my Mom is going on its 7th generation of native-born Californians). Illegal Mexicans only became a serious problem in the past 25, 30 years. The problem isn't the illegal Mexicans, the problem is EXCESSIVE GOVERNMENT LARGESS that they come here now in enormous numbers to take advantage of.

36 posted on 11/17/2015 4:00:45 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

SEE MY POST 36. Get a grip.


37 posted on 11/17/2015 4:01:19 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
They need to go home.

Sure they do, but thinking MORE government is going to do it is a big mistake. Especially mass deportation round-ups. Sure, deport the illegal when he's caught on a jobsite, at the sight of a car accident, or applying for a driver's license, that goes without saying. Deport them pronto!

I'm just telling you that thinking aggressive mass deportation is going to work without enormous negative consequence, is naive. There are better ways to accomplish the same ends.

38 posted on 11/17/2015 4:07:30 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
...unfortunate geographical location. ...

To you, maybe, but I consider myself fortunate. I hate Mexican food (I grew up eatin' the damned stuff), but I have come to love Mexicans in general. I hate their paternalistic culture where the church/government is expected to take care of everybody, but I love, love, love their deep family values, their generosity, their patriotism (yes, patriotism -- I have seen whole multi-generation Mexican families stand up, hush their children, and put their hands on their hearts at the playing of the national anthem at local sporting events many times), their work ethic, their loyalty, and their honesty, their love of fun and firecrackers and fiestas --

-- I have been very fortunate. I've also been to Georgia so I have something to compare it to! *ducking* ;^)

39 posted on 11/17/2015 4:13:56 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Finny

Well I love Mexican food and my BIL who lives near us is 101% Mexican from El Paso since before the Alamo. He wants all illegal Mexicans deported. The sooner the better.


40 posted on 11/17/2015 4:17:10 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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