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This is How AK-47s Get to Paris [despite the fact they're banned]
Daily Beast ^ | 11/15/2015 | David Axe

Posted on 11/14/2015 11:53:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Late Friday night in Paris, multiple gunmen opened fire on diners and concert-goers as part of what appears to have been a coordinated, city-wide terror attack that also included several apparent bomb blasts -- and which killed at least 129 people.

As bombs exploded and panic spread, one witness described assailants firing Kalashnikov-style assault weapons through the plate-glass windows of the Petit Cambodge restaurant in the north-central part of the city.

France outlaws most gun ownership and it's almost impossible to legally acquire a high-powered rifle such as an AK-47, so where did the weapons in the Nov. 13 terror attack -- not to mention the bloody January assault by Islamic terrorists on the Paris office of Charlie Hebdo magazine and the 2012 shootings by a militant in Toulouse -- come from?

The answer: Eastern Europe, most likely, where the trafficking of deadly small arms is big, shady business. And where local authorities find it difficult to intervene.

The French government and the European Union know they have a foreign gun problem. But as the chain of attacks illustrates, efforts to tamp down on the flow of weapons have, so far, failed to disarm terrorists.

French police reportedly seized more than 1,500 illegal weapons in 2009 and no fewer than 2,700 in 2010. The number of illegal guns in France has swollen by double-digit percentages annually for several years, Al Jazeera reported, citing figures from Paris-based National Observatory for Delinquency.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; france; isis; paris; parisattacks; terrorism
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To: SeekAndFind

“France bans most guns. So where did the Paris attackers get their assault weapons?”

Uh, the same place the Paris attackers got their bombs from despite the fact that ALL bombs are banned, namely, smuggled across the borders along with a flood of smuggled illicit drugs?

Wonder why the fool Democrat-PAC media doesn’t seem to be too concerned about the illegal bombs or the ILLEGAL alien terrorists, but seems concerned exclusively on the illegally smuggled guns, you know like smuggling guns is really something special?


21 posted on 11/14/2015 12:07:42 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Ah. That’s it. Maybe there should be a law to publish in French. Oh wait. They don’t care.


22 posted on 11/14/2015 12:08:18 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: rigelkentaurus

It’s the Leftist politicians that let them in and they are partying just like the Muzzies to celebrate this victory over the infidel.


23 posted on 11/14/2015 12:09:16 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

British Constable Colin Greenwood stated many years ago that there would always be enough guns for the criminal element.

I suspect the same thing is true for terrorists.


24 posted on 11/14/2015 12:10:04 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yeah, if those guns weren't properly registered, the shooters will be in big trouble.
25 posted on 11/14/2015 12:11:33 PM PST by sphinx
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To: TADSLOS
Not to mention every fishing boat from North Africa to Amsterdam and wide open Schengen borders up until now

Yeah. That too.

As I noted here the other day...was going through German immigration a month or so ago and a bunch of the Veiled Ones were next to me in a different line.

They all handed their passports to the officer - not one took off the veil. And he didn't ask.

They all got on the other side - now inside the Schengen perimeter - and all I could see were beady little brown eyes staring at me, and big wide veils and robes.

Thought about what might be under all that.

But no one knew or is allowed to know, because Merkel told her Aliens Polizei not to ask.

Maybe now we know.

26 posted on 11/14/2015 12:13:33 PM PST by Regulator
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To: SeekAndFind

France DOES NOT OUTLAW MOST GUN OWNERSHIP! Fully Automatic Weapons (AK47’s and the like) are not approved, but ordinary gun ownership is NOT heavily criticized.


27 posted on 11/14/2015 12:14:35 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Tzimisce

FRANCE DOES NOT BAN GUNS! This article is a bunch of CRAP!


28 posted on 11/14/2015 12:16:25 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: SeekAndFind

Blame anything before acknowledging the absolute failure of Multiculurism and all Leftist ideology.


29 posted on 11/14/2015 12:21:05 PM PST by The Toll
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
The only good news out of the Paris killings is that we did not have to listen to Obama telling the world that more gun control is needed.

Yet.

30 posted on 11/14/2015 12:22:48 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Men need a reason to shop. Women need a place.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A Kalashnikov on the street has a limited lifespan when you have a .308 on a roof.

31 posted on 11/14/2015 12:23:51 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Eddie01

Isn’t France a “gun safe” zone. I’m confused.
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This article and many others promulgate the outright lie that France is a gun free zone. I have owned and carried arms in France for almost thirty years. I hunt and shoot trap both in America and in France without problem. ENGLAND is very strictly controlled, but most think it is France, not England who has given up their gun rights. I can guarantee you, the FRENCH will NEVER allow themselves to be disarmed again. They remember WWII very well.


32 posted on 11/14/2015 12:25:32 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: rigelkentaurus

Most of the French agree with you. Their CURRENT politicians, however, too closely resemble ours!


33 posted on 11/14/2015 12:28:47 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: DiogenesLamp

That think just looks like a disaster waiting to happen, for the person pulling the trigger.


34 posted on 11/14/2015 12:29:42 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Mollypitcher1

From Breitbart-— http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/14/strict-gun-control-bans-impotent-terrorists-open-fire-paris/

France has all-out gun bans for certain types of firearms. For example, A Review of French Gun Laws (2012) shows that “ownership of fully automatic firearms [is prohibited] for civilians” under French gun control laws. Yet fully automatic weapons were the very kind used in the Charlie Hebdo attack.

And when it comes to semi-automatic firearms, a person has to go through the very kind of expanded background checks that President Obama and other gun control proponents would like to institute in the U.S. Those checks entail acquiring and maintaining “an active shooting club [membership]” and going to the range “at least three times a year.” They also include “seeing a doctor every year,” who declares one “physically and mentally capable of owning a firearm,” and filling out lots of paperwork.

Yet in the end, these gun controls appear as impotent against determined attackers as do gun-free zones in the United States. These laws create an uneven playing field, where the terrorist and criminal are armed, but law abiding citizens–even hundreds of them at a time–are soft targets for lawless men with bad intentions.


35 posted on 11/14/2015 12:30:05 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: catnipman

....and the statement that France bns most guns is untrue. I own guns in France just as i do here at home in the U.S.


36 posted on 11/14/2015 12:30:49 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: rigelkentaurus

Freedom can’t be for everyone can it?


37 posted on 11/14/2015 12:30:50 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm not disagreeing with the premise, but I want to challenge one of the misconceptions.

AK47s are not high-powered weapons. If they fired a full-power round, they'd not be assault rifles. (And they'd be a lot heavier, clumsier, and harder to control on full-auto.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_cartridge

An intermediate cartridge is a firearm cartridge that is less powerful than typical full-power battle rifle cartridges such as the United Kingdom .303 British, Russian 7.62x54mm, German 7.92x57mm Mauser or United States .30-06 Springfield, but still have significantly longer effective range than pistol cartridges.

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The first intermediate cartridge to see widespread service was the German 7.92x33mm Kurz used in the StG 44. Other examples include the Soviet 7.62x39mm used in the AK-47 and AKM series, and the .280 British round developed for the EM-2. The 5.56x45mm NATO cartridge is also an intermediate cartridge.

Note - the full-powered Russian round is the 7.62x54mm, the AK-47 uses the 7.62x39mm - a much shorter case, with less powder, generating lower pressures and significantly lower velocity.

You can characterize the AK-47 as rapid-fire, but you cannot characterize it as high-powered, because it simply isn't.

38 posted on 11/14/2015 12:32:11 PM PST by jdege
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To: SeekAndFind

Didn’t these guys watch Sons Of Anarchy? The guns come to the biker gangs through the Irish. The Sons sell them to black and brown.


39 posted on 11/14/2015 12:33:21 PM PST by Vermont Lt (I had student debt. It came from a bank. Not from the Govt.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ukraine is the world’s largest arms bazaar, legal AND illegal.


40 posted on 11/14/2015 12:34:22 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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