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The Establishment Lines Up Against Trump's Deportation Plan
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | November 12, 2015 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 11/12/2015 4:05:28 PM PST by Kaslin

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RUSH: On this program yesterday after the Republican debate, you know Trump was talking about Eisenhower and how he deported a million and a half, and I added to that news.

RUSH ARCHIVE: Trump was entirely correct to point out the history, what Eisenhower did. And I don't think Trump went far enough, actually. In reality, Harry Truman, another Democrat president, deported illegal aliens, over 3.4 million. Did you know that? You did not know about Harry Truman? Well, then I'm happy to be able to inform you.

RUSH: Last night, Trump was on The O'Reilly Factor, and the host, Ted Baxter -- sorry -- just had to do it -- Bill O'Reilly said to the Trumpster, "Believe me when I tell you, Mr. Trump, that was brutal, what they did to people, kick 'em back out of the country back then, I was there, and that was brutal what they did, the stuff they did was really brutal. It could never happen today."

TRUMP: We would do it in a very humane way. Let me tell you, Truman also sent 3.5 million people out. So you have to check on that, but Truman, before Ike, sent 3.5 million people out.

RUSH: Show prep for the Republican presidential field, right here, the EIB Network. It was a grand total of 6.4 million. But O'Reilly said, "You can't do that, it was brutal what happened back then, it was brutal. " Trump says, "Don't worry about it. We're gonna do it in a humane, compassionate way." You won't have to do it. If it were to ever happen, deportation were to ever actually happen, what nobody talks about is that there would be a commensurate number of illegal aliens who would leave on their own, not waiting to be found and deported.

So yesterday on the NBC News website, NBCNews.com, the correspondent Katy Tur spoke with Trump in Manchester, New Hampshire, about his immigration policy, and here's a little bit of how it went.

TUR: Eisenhower's 1952 deportation of illegal immigrants, that was at times anything but humane. They would drop immigrants off in the middle of the dessert, 88 died of heat stroke. Others were shipped off on cargo ships under hellish conditions. There was inquiries into those ships. How would your plan be different?

TRUMP: Very humanely done.

TUR: How?

TRUMP: Very important. It's a whole management thing. It's called good management, good management practices.

RUSH: I love this. I don't know, folks, I know he's not saying anything, I just love it, 'cause here you have this loaded-for-bear journalist. She's just loaded for bear. She's gonna take Trump out or she's gonna humiliate Trump so she's saying -- I don't know if you can hear all that because of the noise. But what she was saying, Katy Tur at NBC, "Eisenhower's deportation of a million immigrants, that was anything but humane. They would drop immigrants off in the middle of the desert, they died of heatstroke."

Trump said, "Yeah."

She said, "Others were shipped off on cargo ships under hellish conditions. There were inquiries into those ships. How would your plan be different?"

Trump said, "Very, very different. Very important. It's a management thing. It's called good management. Good management practices." He-he-he. Look, I know some of you are gonna be mad at me for not seriously parsing it. I'm sorry. Good management practices. (interruption) No, I'm not even gonna attempt to define what those would be. Stop saying "give them water." Snerdley is shouting in my ear here. No, no. "Just good management practices. Don't worry about it, Katy. Have you ever seen me screw anything up before? When I tell you we can deport these people, we can deport 'em, we can do it humanely. In fact, by the time I'm finished they're gonna be glad I did it. They're gonna asking to work for me. That's how humane it's gonna be." (laughing)

Snerdley is asking why is it considered impossible, why can't we do it? Well, because we don't know who they are. The first answer is they're in the shadows. Don't forget that. They're in the shadows. I know, it's bogus. But they're in the shadows, we don't know who they are, and they wouldn't come forward if we said that this was what we're gonna do. The next answer is the Kasich riff, they got families. They got children that are citizens, they were born here, their children are citizens, you just gonna take the father and the mother and you gonna kick 'em out? You can't break up families like that. You can't philosophize about this. You can't do that. You need executive experience to know how to deport people. You can't do it. They're saying it'd be inhumane, physically impossible to do.

And, by the way, then they come up with 500,000 a month. Jeb likes the number it's 500,000 a month you'd have to deport. Why? Who says you'd have to do it in one year? I mean, I admit we can't create more than a couple hundred thousand jobs a month, but how hard would this be, compared to creating jobs? The Democrats don't know how to do that. So, anyway, Newt Gingrich weighed in on this. This is On the Record with Greta Van Susteren last night, on the Fox News Channel. Greta said, "The base do not like illegal immigration. Donald Trump says, 'I'm gonna throw 12 million out, and I'm gonna build a wall,' and that's pretty attractive to them. But, Newt, is it possible?"

GINGRICH: I think that's, uh, not practical at all at a very human level. Imagine the number of churches that will become sanctuaries. Imagine the number of families in which half of them are American citizens born in the US, and now you're gonna go in and you're gonna become the party that destroys families? Look him in the eye and say, "Let's go to down and visit the school in your neighborhood or the church in your neighborhood or the store in your neighborhood, Donald, where you gonna walk in and I'm gonna point out the people you gonna uproot. Now, you really gonna do that in -- and the truth is, you're not."

RUSH: So basically what we're being told here, I mean, if you strip all of the emotion out of this -- which I know a lot of people don't like to do. But if you strip all of the emotion out of this, if the top 12 million taxpayers in America decided to break the law and stop paying taxes, would we suggest that we couldn't go find them and put them in jail or penalize them because we would be separating them from their families? This is the one instance... My point is, this is the one instance in law where everybody in the establishment comes up with excuses and reasons why it can't be enforced.

But if you have 12 million taxpayers, and they all get together and decide, "You know what? Screw the IRS! They're screwing us; we're just not gonna pay our taxes." Could we find them all? If we found them all, could we prosecute them all, and could we convict them all and put them in jail, and would we break up those families? And the answer is damn right we would! (snaps fingers) In a blink of an eye we would, 'cause it's the IRS, and nobody gets away not paying their taxes. I don't care what happens to your family if you get caught.

I don't care how long it takes. They're gonna find you, and they're gonna prosecute you, and they're gonna get whatever they can from you (unless you happen to call our great sponsor, Tax Defense Partners, but that's another stage). I'm just making the point here that in no other instance... Well, maybe not. There may be things I can't think of at the moment, but it really is phenomenal. Here in illegal immigration it's the one set of laws that we have that the entire establishment finds every way in the world not to enforce.

And then to further say, "You can't enforce it." Lynchburg, Virginia, Ben Carson yesterday held a press conference. During the Q&A, a reporter said, "Can you explain your position on immigration? Are you in favor of encouraging people here illegally to have a way to get citizenship or are you in favor of deporting those people who are here?"

CARSON: I propose that we give them a six-month period in which to register. If they don't register within that six-month period, they're criminals, and are treated as such. If they register in that six-month period, and they have a pristine record, and they wish to be guest workers in this country, they would have to pay a back tax penalty and they'd have to continue to pay taxes going forward. But they would no longer have to live in the shadows.

RUSH: Okay. So that sounds like the establishment plan, in a way. This doesn't quite go to amnesty like some of the others does.

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RUSH: Let me ask you a question. If the libs in this country, if the Democrats, if the left wanted to confiscate all the guns in the country, do you think you would hear any, "Nah, we can't find all guns! Are you crazy? It's crazy. We can't find the guns. Are you silly? There's millions and millions, hundreds of millions. We could never round up all the guns!" No. They'd go for it and they'd tried to find every gun in the country and they'd upset every law in this country to get every gun. If they got the go-ahead, they could find 300, 400 million guns inside of a month -- or they would certainly try, right?

I don't think there's any question. How many guns are there in this country? We're told there'd be no problem confiscating them. The left is not deterred at all by the numbers there. Now, when it comes to deportation, if anybody's ever really serious about it -- and I don't know that anybody really is. But if they were and if it is said, "There's no way!" If it's like Newt said, "You'd have to close the stores, the churches, separate families," all that, well, there are places we can go for guidance. We could ask the Mexicans how they do it.

We could go ask the Cubans. You know, we have a new relationship with Cuba. The Castros are experts at rooting out people they don't want there, and they have built plenty of prisons for 'em. The Castros, the Cuban communists had no trouble finding the people there that they don't want there or that they don't want roaming around there. We could ask the ChiComs. You know, they don't like the Tibetans, and they've made no secret about it. I mean, there's any number of places in the world that we could go to seek expert help, 'cause there are plenty of other countries that do it.

No, I'm just saying. You know, this is what I mean. I'm the mayor of Realville, and I do happen to react literally to things. So when people say things, I interpret what they say literally. I'm not gonna assume they don't mean it. I'm not gonna assume they're exaggerating. When somebody says something, I'm gonna believe they mean it. And if they say, "There's no way we could do it! We couldn't do it. We couldn't round up people. We couldn't find them! We couldn't separate the families." Well, there are people that know how to do it, and have been doing it for a long time. All we would have to do is ask them how they do it.

Then it's up to us.

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RUSH: Jeb Bush yesterday in Iowa, a campaign event, a Q&A with a reporter. "What did you think of Trump yesterday saying he would form a deportation task force to get people out of the country?"

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RUSH ARCHIVE: They're running as Democrats. Jeb and Kasich may as well have been espousing the Democrat Party position last night during the Republican debate, and they're wondering why things aren't working out.

RUSH: Okay, about what doesn't matter because what's next, ABC News then links Bush and Kasich and Hillary on Trump's deportation plan.

TOM LLAMAS: Mass deportation is a plan some of Trump's fellow Republicans call unrealistic.

KASICH: Think about the families, think about the children.

BUSH: Even having this conversation sends a powerful signal. They're doing high fives in the Clinton campaign right now when they hear this.

TOM LLAMAS: The Clinton campaign doing more than high fives. Taking to social media, tweeting the idea of tracking down and importing 11 million people is absurd, inhumane, and un-American. No, Trump.

RUSH: Point is, what did ABC do? They went out and they got Kasich and they got Bush and they lumped her in with Hillary, who's a Democrat, in order to oppose Trump, which is my point.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alieninvasion; aliens; amnestypimps; cheaplaborexpress; debates; deport; elections; establishment; gope; illegalaliens; trump; trumpwasright
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1 posted on 11/12/2015 4:05:28 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The establishment deserves a standing raspberry salute.


2 posted on 11/12/2015 4:07:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: Kaslin

Does it dawn on these establishment sell-outs that they have been in charge for 70 plus years?

Even Reagan was limited in what he could do by them.

Screw them and the albino donkey they rode in on.


3 posted on 11/12/2015 4:08:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: Kaslin

I like the idea of Americans refusing to file their taxes to see if the feds really have “no way” of getting off their butts.


4 posted on 11/12/2015 4:11:16 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik
I like the idea of Americans refusing to file their taxes to see if the feds really have “no way” of getting off their butts.

The Federales would have liens and judgements against your house, your car and probably your first born before you could say ooops.

5 posted on 11/12/2015 4:16:18 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin

The people who claim we can’t get rid of illegals through deportation claim we can get rid of guns through confiscation. Liberal logic.


6 posted on 11/12/2015 4:19:29 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I prefer “Cicero’s Unseemly Gesture”.


7 posted on 11/12/2015 4:20:12 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: Kaslin

Go, Trump, GO!! Screw the amnesty pimp’n traitors!!


8 posted on 11/12/2015 4:25:04 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Kaslin

Deportation is the only thing that can return Occupied California to the United States.


9 posted on 11/12/2015 4:26:22 PM PST by Pelham (A refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Kaslin

Perhaps a good starting place for deportations is the Washington elite. I say round them up, strip them of their US citizenship, and drop them in deepest, darkest Africa. If they can find their way back to our shores, we imprison them as criminal aliens.


10 posted on 11/12/2015 4:26:47 PM PST by euram
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To: Kaslin

If Carson gets the nomination, there will be a rush to the Border that will rival the one in Europe.

Just enforce e-Verify and a huge number will go home.

It is true American chauvinism to think that the majority who would go back to Mexico would be punished. Most go home in huge caravans at Christmas.

Mexico is a beautiful country and has a beautiful culture. Those children born here to illegal parents are also eligible for Mexican citizenship.

We can hlp them out humanely. We can have traceable visitation and temporary work visas. We can have liberal health care visas.

But, ever since the Clintons, America ha been losing the backbone of the founding of this country, the enforcement of the rule of law.

Better do so now or our country is a shadoe of the first 200 years.


11 posted on 11/12/2015 4:28:41 PM PST by amihow
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To: goodwithagun

“The people who claim we can’t get rid of illegals through deportation”

....include Dubya, Jeb, Rubio, Gingrich, Hannity, Medved, Hewitt... the whole treason lobby and their “conservative” mouthpieces.


12 posted on 11/12/2015 4:28:58 PM PST by Pelham (A refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Kaslin
Sign me up !!


13 posted on 11/12/2015 4:32:08 PM PST by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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To: maddog55

The trick is to catch the Juan by Juan.


14 posted on 11/12/2015 4:33:41 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

Good Juan !


15 posted on 11/12/2015 4:37:38 PM PST by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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To: VanDeKoik
I like the idea of Americans refusing to file their taxes...

Bush and Kasich wouldn't allow American citizens to refuse to pay their taxes. There's millions of us ... why aren't Bush and Kasich 'helpless' to stop us?

If millions of American citizens stopped paying their taxes - broke the law - Kasich would find his pair - - and Bush would stop being 'helpless'..

"YOU VILL PAY YOUR TAXES!" We know who they really are...

The RINO pair let illegals get away with stealing American jobs and keeping wages low because their BIG donors benefit from 'slavery lite' - oops, I mean illegals.

That's the sum total of their concern - their big fat corrupt donors.

16 posted on 11/12/2015 4:42:47 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: DoughtyOne

First order of business....

Make illegal entry a FELONY.
Make being in the country illegally a FELONY
Make using a fake/stolen SSN a FELONY

Punishment for above, deprotation as persona non grata, lifetime ban and cannot re-enter the US for any reason.

If they do return...execute them.

Give them 90 or 180 days from the passage of the act to get out.

Second is clarify birthright citizenship by statute. The children are already covered by their parents country of origin. They are therefore not citizens by definition.

Once the 90 or 180 days has expired, start rounding them up. We can dump them in Mexico City, and let Mexico figure out what to do with them.


17 posted on 11/12/2015 4:52:54 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk

Just about any plan that goes as far as yours is okay with me.

People in Mexico think we’re idiots for allowing what we do.

It’s time to grow a backbone and quit letting 95 pound weaklings kick sand in our face.


18 posted on 11/12/2015 5:07:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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19 posted on 11/12/2015 6:35:48 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: VanDeKoik

We could become ‘sanctuary tax payers’.


20 posted on 11/12/2015 7:15:10 PM PST by sgtyork
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