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There Is Nothing The Police Can Do Because Of Open Carry Laws
captainsjournal.com ^ | 11/10/2015 | Herschel Smith

Posted on 11/10/2015 8:05:44 AM PST by rktman

Earlier this week, we shared new reports about the investigation into Noah Harpham, who police say shot and killed three people before dying in a gun battle with officers. A neighbor, Naomi Bettis, said she’d called 911 after seeing Harpham with a gun but was told there was nothing police could do owing to open carry laws; see our previous coverage below.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; mumunists
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Another metro heard from. You don't like guns, don't have one. You don't want to see a gun, don't look. How did these pansies survive childhood? As to the Colorado Springs incident, Dean Weingarten already laid that line of BS to rest in an earlier post.
1 posted on 11/10/2015 8:05:44 AM PST by rktman
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The problem wasn’t so much that he was carrying, it’s that nobody else was.


2 posted on 11/10/2015 8:15:51 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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It’s a lie, the police were already rolling before they told here open carry was was not in and of itself a crime.


3 posted on 11/10/2015 8:17:04 AM PST by thorvaldr
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Pretty much the scenario Dean laid out. From the 911 transcripts but you know that doesn’t mean a thing to the antis.


4 posted on 11/10/2015 8:18:23 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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5 posted on 11/10/2015 8:19:44 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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How do you conceal-carry a rifle?


6 posted on 11/10/2015 8:27:35 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Just because some one has a gun out in the open does NOT mean they are a legal CCW permit carrier. Any drugged up criminal will do stupid things like waving a gun out in the open and begin shooting people.

A true CCW carrier will have theirs holstered. Unless they need to use it. TN is a open carry state, we don’t have this kind of stupidity with legal Carriers.

Its the stupid criminals in Memphis and Nashville that are the problem. And the LIBERAL judges that let them out on bond, bail, or probation, or early prison release.


7 posted on 11/10/2015 8:30:09 AM PST by GailA (If You don't keep your Promises to Our Troops, thu won't keep them to anyone. Ret. SCPO's wife)
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This is why we should just allow concealed carry.
That way you won’t freak any dummy out thinking there’s about to be a mass shooting because a gun is present. They jump up and start firing all on their own, you know.


8 posted on 11/10/2015 8:35:05 AM PST by fruser1
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I’d rather see open carry adopted everywhere. The left and anti-gunners want guns hidden to make it seem as if they’re something about which we should be ashamed. Americans should be proud of their heritage and their right to be free to carry a firearm for personal protection.

Until we get away from this sissified mentality that guns are evil, we’re going to continue to have scared little sheep among the populace. This is why America has turned into a third-rate political shithole.


9 posted on 11/10/2015 9:03:52 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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I love how whenever some people discover some facet of life that has escaped infinite regulation, they’re scandalized and automagically assume it’s a problem.


10 posted on 11/10/2015 9:07:21 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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but was told there was nothing police could do owing to open carry laws

That's not true. The whole tape of the first call is up on Youtube. The 911 operator did a great job.

11 posted on 11/10/2015 9:09:06 AM PST by PAR35
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“How do you conceal-carry a rifle?”
Saw off the barrels and put it under the truck seat. ;-)


12 posted on 11/10/2015 9:13:23 AM PST by rhoda_penmark
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Someone should tell Nervous Nellie that it has nothing to do with open carry; those who carry concealed can do the same thing.

Tens of millions of Americans do it every day.


13 posted on 11/10/2015 10:37:31 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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Saw off ALL the barrels?


14 posted on 11/10/2015 10:49:12 AM PST by Misterioso (Altruism is a sin.)
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Typing = bad.


15 posted on 11/10/2015 11:37:33 AM PST by rhoda_penmark
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“How do you conceal-carry a rifle?”

With a limp.


16 posted on 11/10/2015 11:44:34 AM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: GailA
Just because some one has a gun out in the open does NOT mean they are a legal CCW permit carrier. Any drugged up criminal will do stupid things like waving a gun out in the open and begin shooting people.

A true CCW carrier will have theirs holstered. Unless they need to use it. TN is a open carry state, we don't have this kind of stupidity with legal Carriers.

ANY permit or registration requirement or any law limiting carry is a clear infringement upon our rights as recognized in the second amendment. Anyone who should not be armed should not be running around loose.

17 posted on 11/10/2015 12:48:28 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Brandishing is still against the law - OC implies you are NOT brandishing, ie pointing or threating with the rifle. Dollars to donuts, this guy was in fact brandishing/menacing with the rifle vice OC during the first 911 call. It's tougher with long guns, but 911 operators should be and in most cases are trained to distinguish between simple open carry and brandishing.

If your hands are on the gun in public and the muzzle is pointed anywhere but the ground, LE has every reason to grill you at gunpoint.

18 posted on 11/10/2015 1:06:41 PM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: JimRed

I agree, but our ancestors let the liberals get away with the first set of gun control laws, with out challenging them in the USSC. Now we have the crappy system we now have.

Tennessee is a Open Carry State, but it is pure stupidity to wave a gun around in public.

2nd Amendment is all the permit we need. Not all people should be allowed guns...criminals for one or the mentally ill or illegals.


19 posted on 11/12/2015 7:03:29 AM PST by GailA (If You don't keep your Promises to Our Troops, thu won't keep them to anyone. Ret. SCPO's wife)
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Not all people should be allowed guns...criminals for one or the mentally ill or illegals.

Nothing in the second amendment denies the criminal or the crazy the right to self defense. Anyone who should not be armed should not be running around loose.

20 posted on 11/12/2015 7:47:01 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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