Posted on 11/02/2015 3:56:03 PM PST by CaptainK
Ben Carson has surged into the lead of the Republican presidential race, getting support from 29 percent of GOP primary voters, according to a brand-new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
That's the highest percentage any GOP candidate has obtained so far in the survey.
Carson's 29 percent is followed by Donald Trump at 23 percent, Marco Rubio at 11 percent, Ted Cruz at 10 percent and Jeb Bush at 8 percent. These findings are similar to a New York Times/CBS poll released last week, which also showed Carson in first place in the national GOP contest.
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Cruz does not come off as fake or rehearsed at all. You’re thinking of Rubio and Fia-RINO. How do you rehearse his great debate answer that was stitched together out of a specific reaction to several questions that were asked that night?
Nobody gives a crap about what a candidate’s father or mother or brother said. If all they have on Cruz is a quote from a relative, he’s in like Flynn.
For all Trump’s fight, he’s performed very weak in the debates. Someone else always outshines him. He’s shown a remarkable lack of flexibility in expanding his rhetoric to new questions and themes. He’s stuck on “build the wall” and “take jobs back from CHI-na.” You’ll get an exact repeat of Obama vs. Romney in the debates minus the first debate that Romney won. And Trump’s off-color comments appeal only to a certain segment of the conservative base, not the independents and moderates, who by definition aren’t looking for that kind of “red meat.”
Cruz will win the general election handily. He’s a Reaganesque speaker and debater with a whip-smart intellect that can handle whatever unexpected topics and issues might arise. He’s been staunchly opposed to the Obama agenda every step of the way, which is what voters hungry for a change will respond to.
It requires me to sign in, which I have no intention of ever doing.
The ones who gave us Rick Santorum, Huckabee, and now Ben Carson certainly are. They're the dumbest of the dumb. Totally shallow, empty, and only worried about appearance. Not to claim that these people are really Christians though. Rick Santorum wasn't even an Evangelical, and Mormon Mitt got most of their support as soon as he won the nomination.
The poll was 400 GOP primary voters. What does that mean? Registered voters? Likely voters?
But you can bet this is the poll the pundits will run with. In a way, this is Trump’s own fault. I’m not saying I believe this poll, only that he has done nothing but talk about his polls at each and every town hall, rally and interview. Several people emailed the campaign and asked him to stop - w2hich he didn’t. So, the media and haters found a way to try and bring him down. Like I said, I’m a Trump supporter, but I callz ‘em as I seez ‘em.
plus...im sorry...but hes just plain weird.
Googling “Ben Carson -poll” results in nothing but negative stories. Here are the links from the first few pages of results:
http://nypost.com/2015/10/30/the-ben-carson-secret-that-democrats-cant-bear-to-face/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-raised-october_56367bc3e4b0c66bae5cc72b
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ben-carson-gop-front-runner-lists-debate-demands
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/01/van-jones-ben-carson-bewilders-most-black-democrats-video/
Someone PLEASE explain how coverage like this results in a NATIONAL poll bounce? A national poll bounce normally requires some significant good coverage, big speech, policy statement etc...Carson has NONE OF THAT, no big news stories, no 60 minutes interviews viewed by millions of people etc... but keeps rising in the polls. Remember, this is a NATIONAL poll. It takes a lot of positive coverage to move that needle.
It makes no sense. If reality is a guide, when things make no sense it’s because we are missing part of the picture.
Carsons rise hurts Trump. Hurting Trump is what the GOPe wants. Would YOU really out it past them to fix a few numbers? Round up here, down there, interpret poll answers in “creative”ways to get the outcome they want? Well, would you?
I don’t put it past them. Not at all.
You don't serve your own candidate well, by putting down the supporters of the others.
Here are some Trump quotes from the article:
“I’m quite liberal and getting much more liberal on health care” (1999)
the U.S. should consider a single-payer health system like Canada’s government-run plan...That system “helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans,” -His book, The America We Deserve
...called ObamaCare a “filthy lie” and “total catastrophe”? (2015)
“I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun” (2000)
opposed the flat tax offered by Steve Forbes in 2000, writing in his book that “only the wealthy would reap a windfall.”
gave $20,000 in 2006 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee to help elect a Democratic majority in the House and make Rep. Nancy Pelosi speaker
Trump said Republicans need to back comprehensive immigration reform “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country.” (2012)
The list goes on and on, but I will stop there.
The majority of polls have him consistently winning each and every one of them, even one you showed me.
And Trump’s off-color comments appeal only to a certain segment of the conservative base, not the independents and moderates
Trump is leading with independents and moderates! You get more clueless with every assertion.
Cruz will win the general election handily. He’s a Reaganesque speaker and debater with a whip-smart intellect
Cruz is a pretender who will be exposed as having opportunistic positions on immigration, voting for the Corker bill, voting for fast track, before declaring himself opposed.
Cruz does not come off as fake or rehearsed at all.
Take a look at this blogger who happened to interview Cruz. He talks about how Cruz "was talking like a normal guy," but then went straight into his robotic spiel once the camera came on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiFKtC6a9do
Mind you I don't have any studies for this, but, the reaction is certainly not off the wall.
Nobody gives a crap about what a candidate’s father or mother or brother said.
They will when they see Cruz getting hands held on him by these folks as they "pray" for him to have this anointing. Cruz's appeal is already limited. It will become even moreso once he comes off like a nut.
Notice how nothing in your list has happened any time recently, even though you falsely claimed that Trump was switching positions every day or having spokesman giving false or contradictory signals.
"Jeb Can Fix It" or "Make America Great Again". Which one makes you feel proud of your country?
If the thought comes into your head to vote for Carson in the primaries, I recommend sitting and drooling in the corner instead. It will be more productive and helpful for the country.
I forgot to say: They're hypocrites, I do not like them, and won't like them even if they vote correctly. I know them of old. I've been pissed at them since Rick Santorum, and when Franklin Graham removed Mormonism from the cult-catagory on his website just because Mitt Romney was running.
I would only note that all the Carson stories you cite (I did not click on them, by the way) are from left-wing sites. What ever happened to the expression, “if you are drawing flak, it means you are over the target?” When I cited the middle of the road WSJ to a fellow Trump-supporting freeper on this thread, he seemed to take it almost as an insult that I would use them as a source.
So I’m not sure that getting the Huffington Post’s panties in a wad over Carson is necessarily a bad thing. But as I’ve said also, I am perfectly receptive to Cruz, too.
Anyone can write anything.
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