Sheriff to Announce South Carolina Deputy Ben Fields to Be Fired: Sources

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[Calpublican]

It looked like she flipped her chair over trying to pull back and resist.

All I believe is the problem is from the home. I’m a lot older than you and I did not try to pull anything at school. If I had, when I got home my scary mother would have tried to kill me.

[pfflier]

It always works out that way. The sensationalists show the edited video but we don't hear the whole story for several days or even weeks.

The most predicatble part of that is it's always obummer's children and a white cop. No agenda there...

[SoFloFreeper]

Where is the police union? I wouldn’t blame EVERY COP on the force for walking off the job.

Ridiculous.

Leon Lett, or whatever your name is, you’re being cowardly. Good luck enforcing law with a noodle for a spine.

[freedumb2003]

>>I want to know more facts. I also want to know exactly what school officials are supposed to do with an insolent student who refuses to comply with orders.<<

According to the Police Chief (?) at his press conference, the problem was not putting his hands on her. The problem was tossing her across the floor.

He should have taken her straight down and cuffed her there.

I think it is too difficult to know what he was thinking when the cop tossed her. He should not have been fired.

[Prov1322]

Growing up, I recall kids being smacked with rulers and slammed against walls by staff for insolent, albeit non-violent, behavior - _both_ of which quickly stopped as order & deference were quickly restored.

We must've been "taught" by the same group of the Sister's of St. Joseph. They were enforcers of discipline first and sort-of teachers, second...

Our classes had 50 kids in them with one nun and no aide, assistant, nor security. They were security. Didn't learn much but were were disciplined.

[Prov1322]

Growing up, I recall kids being smacked with rulers and slammed against walls by staff for insolent, albeit non-violent, behavior - _both_ of which quickly stopped as order & deference were quickly restored.

We must've been "taught" by the same group of the Sister's of St. Joseph. They were enforcers of discipline first and sort-of teachers, second...

Our classes had 50 kids in them with one nun and no aide, assistant, nor security. They were security. Didn't learn much but were were disciplined.

[Prov1322]

Growing up, I recall kids being smacked with rulers and slammed against walls by staff for insolent, albeit non-violent, behavior - _both_ of which quickly stopped as order & deference were quickly restored.

We must've been "taught" by the same group of the Sister's of St. Joseph. They were enforcers of discipline first and sort-of teachers, second...

Our classes had 50 kids in them with one nun and no aide, assistant, nor security. They were security. Didn't learn much but were were disciplined.

[Stingray51]

For the record, I did go to the link and nothing I saw there changed my conclusion that the police officer used excessive force. I think a police officer, especially a strength-training / football coach, ought to be able to get a girl like that out of the classroom without the professional wrestling moves. And in my opinion that is what he should have done. It is not anti-cop, pro-BLM, anti-discipline of students or anything else other than my own conclusion upon watching the videos. Apparently, a lot of Americans and Freepers agree with me. I am just as conservative and tough on crime as anyone on this forum and I still think the force was excessive.

[Prov1322]

On multiple threads in the past 24 hours+ I have seen multi-posts of the same response. Wondered why...now I know.

I attempted to reply and received the dreaded "Malware" alert page, so I dutifully went back-forth and then gave up, thinking that I could not reply while FR was under this attack.

My apologies to all for the multi-posting reply.

[Political Junkie Too]

The girl was told to leave the class. Refusing to do so was an act of criminal trespass.

Criminal trespass? That can't be right.

Is she a student there? If she were not there, it would be truancy. If the teacher asked her to go to a detention room and she refused, it would be a school disciplinary action, but not criminal.

-PJ

[circlecity]

Any time you are on someone else’s property, whether originally as an invitee or not, and refuse to leave when asked you are committing criminal tresspass

[Fury]

I think it was a good firing. He violated department policy regarding their use of force continuum.

[The_Media_never_lie]

I think it was a good firing. He violated department policy regarding their use of force continuum.

You are entitled to your opinion.

Had the officer been black, the action would NEVER have been reviewed.

[SoFloFreeper]

Nope, why deny the kids an opportunity to learn? To clear out the room for this brat would be wrong.

Truly, children refusing to obey LEOs is a big big problem.

[freeandfreezing]

Your answer says it all. You are grasping at straws to defend your prejudice. I guess you can't answer what you would feel about a kid with different skin color who also protested against or disputed her school's actions.

And since I'm not playing the race card, I guess you just lost by your own law.

Have a nice day.

[Political Junkie Too]

Schools are different. Unless expelled by the district, the student by law must be there unless picked up by a parent or guardian. The minor student cannot be pushed out mid-day onto the street by a teacher with no guardian to receive the student. And I don't think criminal would be down to the specific room.

-PJ

[circlecity]

"And I don't think criminal would be down to the specific room. -PJ"

Why not? I think such a refusal to obey would also constitute disorderly conduct.

[Political Junkie Too]

Because the student has a right (and legal expectation) to be in the building. A room with a sign that says "Teachers Only," or "Authorized Personnel Only," or "Chess Club Only" are only school rules, not criminal law passed by representatives of the people.

You can’t arrest a child for not obeying a teacher. And a police officer should not be wasting his time enforcing a teacher's classroom rule, turning it into criminally disobeying him. Unless he's enforcing a duly passes law, it's called abuse of authority under color of law.

-PJ

[publius911]

This occurrence is so rare as to be irrelevant.

Clarity is critical.
And ignorance is bliss.

Are you referring to the feral hoods in the classroom?
Or the feral hood getting her comeuppance?

Neither is rare by any means.

Both happen daily...

[publius911]

This is simple, cell phones should never ever be allowed in the class room.

I thought of that, but that requires every teacher to be familiar with cell phone jammers. They do exist, and they work.

However, I don't know their effect on any wireless communications the school computers might use.