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Trump's National Lead Increases to 35.6%
PR Newswire ^ | 10-27-2015 | Press Release

Posted on 10/27/2015 10:03:40 AM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: glabbe

My problem with OAN is that they use that bogus polling out fit to “conduct” their polls. My understanding is that they don’t even own a landline telephone. That they merely plagiarize and massage other pollsters’ numbers and publish them as their own.

However, I also doubt the newest flash polls, that have Carson rampaging all over Trump in Iowa. The polling that takes place tonight and tomorrow, AFTER the debate, will tell a more accurate tale.


101 posted on 10/28/2015 4:14:22 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: smoothsailing

Thank you for the explanation! :^)


102 posted on 10/28/2015 8:52:24 AM PDT by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Tucker39

Pollster ratings - Survey USA gets an A. Gravis and Rasmussen get C’s.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/


103 posted on 10/28/2015 9:16:54 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Don Corleone

Market Consult had Trump at 40%, so this is the second confirmation that Trump is still not through “peaking early”.


104 posted on 10/28/2015 9:43:13 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: smoothsailing

I’d give Gravis an F. Their the frauds, from what I’ve read. They had Romney winning in 2012....because that’s what Rove, et al wanted to hear.


105 posted on 10/28/2015 1:32:12 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Tucker39

Alot of pollsters had Romney winning, IIRC.


106 posted on 10/28/2015 1:44:53 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Tucker39
I’d give Gravis an F. Their the frauds, from what I’ve read.

Where did you read they're a fraud? Got a link or a source name? The only source I've found other than you is a far left kook trash website that is wrong about everything.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/07/1141340/-Gravis-Marketing-Exposed-As-A-Fraud-via-Democratic-Underground

107 posted on 10/28/2015 4:12:03 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

I merely Googled Gravis and clicked some of the links. There’s some eye opening stuff there, including the claim that Gravis is just a couple of guys in a large closet. No organization. No phone bank. Nothing. They actually poll NOBODY. They plagiarize other pollsters’ numbers and cook them to arrive at whatever they think their clients want to hear. That’s why they had Rove, Romney, et al convinced that Romney was going to cream Obama in 2012. Check it out.


108 posted on 10/28/2015 5:37:35 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: smoothsailing

Normally I would be thrilled with this news about Trump’s increased percentages, except that this comes from OAN, which unless they changed sources recently, uses Gravis to do their polling. The sources I’ve read claim that Gravis doesn’t even DO any polling.

The claim is that they either plagiarize other pollsters’ numbers or pull them out of thin air, and then massage them to arrive at what they think their client wants to hear. Do a search of Gravis and follow the links that pop up. Satisfy yourself regarding Gravis.


109 posted on 10/28/2015 5:46:35 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Tucker39

My point is the only “sources” that are making the same claims as you are Daily Kos and Democrat Underground.

You don’t name your sources so I have nothing other than those two disgusting websites to back up your claim.


110 posted on 10/28/2015 5:53:17 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Tucker39

Interesting read:

http://humanevents.com/2012/10/21/leftists-attack-pollster-for-calling-romney-momentum-early/


111 posted on 10/28/2015 6:32:55 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

I agree with your opinion of Kos and DU. But why would THEY criticize Gravis for making the GOPe look bad? It seems to me they’d be happy about that.

No, they’re obviously angry because Gravis’ cooking the numbers made some of THEIR people look bad........and their claim that Gravis is pulling down serious money for basically doing nothing. They’re probably peeved about that.


112 posted on 10/28/2015 8:32:50 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Tucker39

So you accept their being “peeved” as the basis for your opinion of Gravis?

If, as you say, you agree with me about Kos and DU; how can you accept their opinion of Gravis, an opinion you push? It’s as worthless as they are.

I take it they are the source of your opinion, since you’ve provided no other, even though I’ve requested it several times now.

That’s mighty thin gruel, Tucker.


113 posted on 10/28/2015 9:00:35 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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