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‘Pro-Israel’ J Street says Jews not indigenous to Israel
INN ^ | 10/25/2015, 3:53 PM | Ari Soffer

Posted on 10/26/2015 6:37:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: Lisbon1940

Do you grasp for a moment what these J Street cretins are supporting ? They would be happy to see the State of Israel wiped off the face of the Earth. That you are so quick to defend them calls into question what your agenda is.


21 posted on 10/26/2015 7:30:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Olog-hai

Israel is an ancient Jewish (Hebrew) Name. Hence, Hebrews (Jews) could be the ONLY indigenous people. Canaan on the other hand was populated by various Hamitic tribes until Israel came the Hamitic tribes either died, were displaced, or integrated with the Hebrews (Jews).


22 posted on 10/26/2015 7:32:32 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Olog-hai
Ironically, they're right for the simple reason that there is no such thing as an "indigenous" people anywhere in the world.

Indigenism is a form of nineteenth century European romantic nationalism (it was called "autochthony" back then) which held that each people emerged from the "sacred soil" of its own homeland.

Only one person in history has ever emerged from the soil: 'Adam haRi'shon (the first man). Eve emerged from Adam, and ever other human being who has ever lived has emerged from his/her mother.

Although the Garden of Eden is in some way connected with the holy city of Chevron (Hebron), the Jewish claim to 'Eretz Yisra'el has never been that they are "indigenous" to it. It is that G-d gave the Land to them exclusively.

The claim of Jewish indigeneity is just another excuse to avoid mentioning G-d or the Torah.

And btw, I realize this isn't the point J Street is making. I despise J Street and am for a Jewish (and Halakhic) Israel, but that must be based on G-d, not secular ideologies.

23 posted on 10/26/2015 7:35:55 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Look, they are liberal, not evil. We can oppose them politically without calling them Nazis.


24 posted on 10/26/2015 7:53:38 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Lisbon1940

Destruction of the State of Israel IS evil, sir or madam. That these are Jews supporting its destruction makes them WORSE than Nazis. Collaborationists who zealously assist and shove their fellow Jews right into the ovens.

That you can rationalize and defend their actions is evil.


25 posted on 10/26/2015 8:23:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Liberal Jews don’t favor the destruction of Israel, Herr Reichsmarschall.


26 posted on 10/26/2015 8:47:46 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Lisbon1940

Bullcrap. I stand with Israel, 100%. You stand and defend those who hate Israel and want her obliterated.

Shame on you.


27 posted on 10/26/2015 9:09:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Lisbon1940

BTW, I saw your little Nazi insinuation in my direction. Your hypocrisy is showing.


28 posted on 10/26/2015 9:11:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Lisbon1940

They are either Nazis or advocating the exact things Nazis would seek — while mouthing all sorts of lies about the Jewish people and history - just like the Nazis did in ww 2. You can know a tree by its fruit. — and some of the most Nazi- like people on earth are self- hating Jews, too. I say these truths to their faces when occasion requires and I do not apologize if they have Jewish names— no apologies — they learned precisely the wrong lesson from the Shoah and everything they advocate would create another one.. They need to be confronted and corrected and I have nothing to apologize for. Nothing whatsoever. They are not only nuts, they are self- destructive and they’re trying to drag millions of innocent people to the grave with them. They need to be stopped ASAP. . Best regards,


29 posted on 10/26/2015 9:23:39 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: traderrob6

True. George Soros was one.


30 posted on 10/26/2015 9:30:02 PM PDT by Jean2 (ox)
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To: Lisbon1940

Everything I’ve ever seen them advocate is evil to the core. Please don’t tell me they’re “liberals, not evil”. Even if we agreed that liberalism is not intrinsicly evil — an interesting discussion — these people advocate extremely evil things regularly and as their patent main purpose too. You can tell a tree by its fruit, they are very very very very very very evil people. ( if a few of their number are just naive “useful idiots” to their organization’s predominant evil agenda, I cent say. But even if so, the end result is the same evil evil evil ).


31 posted on 10/26/2015 9:31:57 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

My second cousin was killed by in the 1973 war. I stand with Israel at least as strongly as you do.


32 posted on 10/26/2015 9:39:10 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Lisbon1940

Liberal Jews may or may not support the destruction of the Jeeish homeland, some did in past years to be sure -—— and more to the point, we are discussing a particularly evil organization. Please don’t change the subject by fend ing that organization as just “liberal” (as you’ve already done in this thread) as somehow distinguished from evil as if your personal decision to Annoint some group as merely “liberal” somehow magically removes all possible evil from it. Sorry, but that dog doesn’t hunt. Evil is evil regardless of your opinion of the political leanings of anybody involved. Putting lipstick on the pig doesn’t make it stop oinking. And fyi some of most evil people in the world (including anti- Semites) have been liberal or “lost” or Athiestic Jews. You might say that when they go bad, they cen go very very bad indeed. Thank God most Jews haven’t but yes, evil is still evil.


33 posted on 10/26/2015 9:40:44 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: Lisbon1940

You stand with J Street and the anti-Zionist filth that want Israel gone. You insult those who call them out as the evil that they are. You defend leftism, that has the blood of millions of innocent Jews on their hands.

You are no supporter of Israel.


34 posted on 10/26/2015 9:49:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: faithhopecharity

This poster is unquestionably a troll. Its posts are vile and reek of hypocrisy.


35 posted on 10/26/2015 9:50:57 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: faithhopecharity

We probably agree that Hitler, Stalin, bin Laden, Pol Pot and some others of that ilk were evil. Are you saying J Street is in that league? If so, you are diminishing true evil and giving Hitler a pass. I happen to disagree with J Street’s political agenda, but they are just political opponents, not genocidal killers.


36 posted on 10/26/2015 9:53:06 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Lisbon1940

I don’t feel obligated to put j street in same class as hitler to point out how thoroughly evil their program is. But yes since you asked, j street pushes for everything it seems that would logically lead to the slaughter of another seven million Jews. The difference is j street doesn’t run its own gas chen ste, they would merely set the stage for other anti- Semites to do the killing. Not a very great difference to the innocent lives at stake, though. Murder is murder to the victims regardless of whether j street itself does the killing of if j street “merely” and “liberally” enables others to kill off the Jews. Evil is evil. It might even be said that at least Hitler was an honest Nazi —


37 posted on 10/26/2015 10:02:34 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You equate liberal Zionism to totalitarian Hitlerism. I guess Adolph wasn’t so bad after all.


38 posted on 10/26/2015 10:03:13 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Thanks. Yes I recognize you are correct. I did my best to respond to him but experience teaches such types seldom see the light. He’d be off my website by now - if I had a website - as its really destructive to let moles and trolls take over discussions. As it is, I did my best and now others will have to deal with it as best they can. Thanks


39 posted on 10/26/2015 10:06:25 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: faithhopecharity

You’re showing a lot more patience and restraint than I could.


40 posted on 10/26/2015 10:21:14 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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