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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 25 October 2015
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 25 October 2015 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/25/2015 4:59:25 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: norwaypinesavage

From what I’ve read and seen there was a stand down order


121 posted on 10/25/2015 8:31:23 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon ok)
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To: rodguy911

Sheryl Attkisson on again on CBS.


122 posted on 10/25/2015 8:33:18 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

No, but he was standing on tippy toes, feverishly tapping his heels tugether.


123 posted on 10/25/2015 8:34:42 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: rodguy911
I forget if Hillary was asked why Gen. Ham was asked to stand down. Who asked him and why.And, when he decided to ignore that order he was relieved of command in less than a minute by his #2!!Who was behind all that!!??

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I came across some interesting info/analysis/links via Allen West's website .... he's not your usual Conspiracy Theory type of guy so I think the info he is pointing to is likely credible or partly credible per his thinking. I will put all links down at the bottom for your reference, including West's.

Per the info, the Zero Footprint gun running operation was covert .... Ham didn't even know of the CIA annex ... FEST was called off because they would have uncovered the covert operation if they had made it to Benghazi. Many if not all of the pieces fall into place .... most if not all of the "why" questions answered.

One more thing - I was HOPING the gun running would come up in the hearing. When Pompeo started asking those questions, Hilly's body language changed, IMO. She got very still, her face was an inscrutable mask, her voice dropped and there was very little inflection .... Pompeo's questions were very dangerous territory for her. Frankly, I think he knew the answers already from closed-door testimony. Also, she didn't outright deny knowing Marc Turic (arms dealer) but claimed a 'recall' problem .... I think that was a lie with all that is going on with him (being prosecuted).

Ok - here are the links .... and one regarding Marc Turic as well - it is all WELL WORTH reading and a real eye opener when you see what was going on.

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From:
The Benghazi Brief – “Operation Zero Footprint” – What We Know About The Benghazi Mission, And Subsequent Attack…

The entire weapons operation was labeled “Operation Zero Footprint”. The intent is outlined in the operational title – to leave no visible record of U.S. involvement in arming the Libyan “rebels”. No visible footprint.

We know from congressional inquiry Ambassador Chris Stevens had asked for more security in the months prior to Sept. 11th 2012. Requests sent to the State Dept that were denied.

We also know that NO MARINE DETACHMENT was ever put in place to defend the Benghazi Mission.

We also know the Benghazi Mission was initially, and mistakenly by media, called “a consulate”, or a “consulate outpost”. But there was no State Dept record of any consulate office in Benghazi.

All of these seeming contradictions can be reconciled with the simple understanding that this “Mission” was unofficial. Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

Why were security requests denied? Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

We know from General Carter Ham (AFRICOM Commander now retired) the Department of Defense was not even aware the State Dept was operating a mission in Benghazi during 2012. Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

How could Hillary Clinton, Charlene Lamb, or Patrick Kennedy approve or request a marine security detachment knowing the entire mission around Benghazi was covert? Such a request would have travelled outside the small group of State/CIA insiders. The request would have gone to DoD. Short answer, they couldn’t.

Hence the disconnect between what seemed to be obvious and/or simple questions and the inability to accurately discuss in the public venues of congressional inquiry.

To the public Chris Stevens was a U.S. ambassador, a diplomat. To the folks inside the State Dept and CIA, Chris Stevens was a U.S. Ambassador, AND a CIA operative coordinating covert arms sales.

Even after death the public face of Chris Stevens, the official role, was able to be discussed. The covert, or unofficial role, was not. Again, we see the disconnect between inquiry that could be answered, and inquiry that could not be answered. Many irreconcilables surface because of this intelligence role – even through today.

The second role of Stevens, the covert and CIA aspect, still causes problems for people trying to understand the “why not” questions. The broader public asking why have we not seen, or heard from the survivors of the attacks?

The short answer is, we have not – but the intelligence community has.

Twice some of the survivors have given testimony to congress. The problem for the public is that those hearings are closed door, classified, intelligence hearings – led by Chairman Mike Rogers and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Again, go back to the beginning of Operation Zero Footprint and you see the congressional Intelligence Gang of Eight were fully aware of the intents.

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The links in this section & the one in the section above w/excerpts were the ones pointed to by Allen West:

Allen West: Operation Zero Footprint: The bombshell truth about Benghazi?

(Update Part III): “Operation Zero Footprint” – What We Know About The Benghazi Mission and Subsequent Attack…

CIA Operation “Zero Footprint”, Qatar, Benghazi and The Connection To Ahmed Abu Khattala – The Real Motive For The Obama Administration’s Recent Arrest…

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Marc Turi: Arms dealer: Obama DOJ prosecuting me to protect Hillary

POMPEO: There was an e-mail that was from Mr. Blumenthal and (inaudible) before that, also discussing the same situation. Do you know who Mark Turrey (ph) is?

CLINTON: No, I don't recall that I know who that is.

POMPEO: He was a private trafficker in weapons. He was working with Mr. Stevens and attempting to develop an authorization with the State Department so that he could in fact deliver those weapons into Libya. Does that -- any of that ring a bell to you?

CLINTON: No, it does not.

POMPEO: So you never saw the e-mail that was from Mr. Stevens to -- I think it went to Mr. Sullivan, where he says to Mr. Turrey (ph), this is Mr. Stevens now, says to Mr. Turrey (ph): "Thank you for this information" -- this information about his attempts to get authority to ship arms into Libya. He says, "Thank you for this information. I'll keep it in mind and share it with my colleagues in Washington. Regards, Chris." Actually, "regards, Chris Stevens."

CLINTON: I -- I don't know anything about that specifically. I do know that you're referring to a document, and if you are, could you tell us what tab it's at?

POMPEO: Yes, ma'am. I'm not certain it's in there as a tab, but I'm happy to provide it to you.

124 posted on 10/25/2015 8:37:24 AM PDT by Qiviut
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To: Alas Babylon!

Maybe it will turn out to be a huge mistake, and Trump will be a megalomaniac who becomes the Caesar of America, but...


Give me Caesar vs the current Nero, who not only fiddles while we are ablaze but grins knowing he set the fires


125 posted on 10/25/2015 8:38:32 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Darn I missed it how did she do


126 posted on 10/25/2015 8:40:51 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon ok)
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To: rodguy911
From what I’ve read and seen there was a stand down order

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't "Patches" Kennedy...not that it matters he's not authorized to give that order. Early on in her fraudulent "testimony" Hitlary claimed only the President could give that order.

(Hello?)

127 posted on 10/25/2015 8:41:34 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: rodguy911

Pretty good segment on the murdering criminal invaders.

Check your local listings, you may still be able to catch it.


128 posted on 10/25/2015 8:44:11 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Alas Babylon!
OK, I redid this into a picture. Hopefully, it looks better:

All polls are from Real Clear Politics latest averages except Tennessee, which only has a straw poll. Now, keep in mind that Alaska, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Wyoming do not even have Trump as a candidate! (Why???)

I would not doubt that Trump leads in them, if an accurate count is done.

What this data REALLY tell us?

That Trump is incredibly strong!

Look at three hugely politically disparate states: Alabama, Massachusetts and Nevada. Trump leads is huge in all three. That really says something.

129 posted on 10/25/2015 8:52:59 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: rodguy911

She also had a segment with Robert Laszewski (google his name) reporting on the 9 state ObamaCare exchanges that have gone broke.

The report dealt with “adverse selection” where any insurance arrangement needs a lot of healthy people to sign up to pay the claims of the relatively few sick.

With the high premiums/poor coverage aspects of ObamaCare....It ain’t happening.

In other news, I also see 24 states suing ObamaCare for damages...that’s a lot of states.


130 posted on 10/25/2015 8:54:31 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: jjotto

Well, LOL, this is about when people hear the news about “who won”. Do you think no one will be talking about the winner and losers of the Iowa caucus on February 2nd???


131 posted on 10/25/2015 8:55:28 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks for that summary. Saved my TV from having something thrown at while watching Chrissy do his protect the Fox line/Hilly, We need Bush rope a dope


132 posted on 10/25/2015 8:58:13 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Diogenesis
You deserve it!


133 posted on 10/25/2015 9:00:25 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Qiviut

thanks very much its going to take me awhile to go through all this


134 posted on 10/25/2015 9:13:13 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon ok)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

This has always been the problem with Benghazi whenever you think you’ve got to the source to the real story something else comes up


135 posted on 10/25/2015 9:14:47 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon ok)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Obamacare is working out exactly like the regime wanted nothing but sheer chaos from one end to the other


136 posted on 10/25/2015 9:16:37 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon ok)
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To: rodguy911

Sorry it’s such a long post & so much info. Even Allen West said it would take some to get through it. I’ve been wallowing around in it for a couple of days now & still need more time with it. :-) The one thing I do know is that Hilly/Obama & a list of other people in government should probably be dancing at the end of a rope for high crimes & treason.


137 posted on 10/25/2015 9:20:36 AM PDT by Qiviut
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To: bray

Once Bernie Sanders caved during the debate...by not caring about Hillary Clinton’s e-mail investigation and crime...he handed her the Democrat nominattion!! For the hapless Sanders...His fifteen minurtes of fame are over!!! What a traitor to his loyal base!!! He died politcally, overnight!!!


138 posted on 10/25/2015 9:29:59 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party!!!)
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To: rodguy911
This has always been the problem with Benghazi whenever you think you’ve got to the source to the real story something else comes up

Good!

I want more and more stuff to come up until the entire RAT-crime syndicate is implicated and discredited. The RATagandists claiming "nothing new" came out of the recent hearings are, of course, lying, knowing most people didn't watch the entire thing.

Did you know about the 600 or so requests from Stevens for additional security, and that the Hildabeast "got none of them"?

Did you know that Sid Vicious Blumenthal (who was denied employment by Obama) was in constant email communication with Cankles, feeding her classified information, seeking to feather his own nest, in order to do business in Libya, while Ambassador Stevens didn't have her contact information?

Didja know that on the very day, she told Chelsey and the Egyptian Prime Minister that she knew it was an alkida-like terrorist attack, and then went on for days, with the families, and on national TV (Susan Rice) and to this day saying she believes it was "the video"?

Every one of those security breaches is a separate criminal offense...and we have freaking Woody Bobward claiming she committed no crimes?

Get him off the air and into a home for gawdsake!

< /rant>

139 posted on 10/25/2015 9:42:48 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Sounded to me more like he was talking $3000, not $700.

Nope, it's $2000 per year into an HSA of which at least one-third has to go to health-care insurance premium. People can contribute more to the HSA if they want. And if they have the money. So tell me where one can get any sort of heath insurance for $700 a year?

Then there's HRPs to control costs.

The idea that they'll control costs is fantasy, and unless the government is going to mandate that employers provide HRPs then they are even less helpful.

140 posted on 10/25/2015 9:46:33 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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