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Putin Crushes BBC Smartass - Must Watch, much more than this...
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Posted on 10/10/2015 11:14:50 AM PDT by 100American

From comments to video "Putin has stepped in to put everyone in their place. To maintain Assad in power in Syria, remove the US sphere of influence in ME and Ukraine and to stop the US Israel alliance's plan to destroy ME nations and send millions of refugees into Europe. Putin is so smart and so smooth. He is stopping the one world order boys in their tracks."

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alexistsipras; astroturf; concerntroll; crimea; donetsk; europeanunion; fakeamerican; france; germany; greece; nato; paidrussiantrolls; putinobama; putinsbuttboys; russia; syria; syriza; ukraine; unitedkingdom; vladtheimploder; war
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To: Cold Heat

You admit there is no declared policy; yet you infer the existence of such a policy. At the same time, you admit that the US may well be making flights with nuclear weapons on board “secretly,” in contravention of the inferred policy, which makes it a distinction without a difference.

Anyway, I guess we have exhausted the topic.


61 posted on 10/10/2015 2:14:21 PM PDT by marvel5
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To: marvel5

I am trying to BBQ some chicken so forgive my delays and short replies..

As to Putin’s possible lying, Yes it is possible and could be even absolutely correct.

You see, Putin’ s recent attempts to gain territory in the arctic regions, has now been backed up by on the ground military deployment and they are of course armed.

His incursions into the Ukraine and most certainly followed by more, will need a deterrent.

to protect that deployment, and considering the fact that he is a bit over extended in his supply lines and available aircraft at the present time, which is being rectified, he needs to have a excuse to fly nukes on his airspace cap for the deployment to get the most out of what he has and have a reasons for the US or anyone else to match his military deployment.

Shrewd guy....but just a KGB thug in reality.


62 posted on 10/10/2015 2:29:48 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: marvel5

Maybe you should stop blindly trying to give Putin credibility here and start worrying about your own ass.


63 posted on 10/10/2015 2:31:04 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: marvel5
You admit there is no declared policy; yet you infer the existence of such a policy. At the same time, you admit that the US may well be making flights with nuclear weapons on board “secretly,” in contravention of the inferred policy, which makes it a distinction without a difference

That's just peachy...I tell you that our policies are classified and then you keep bombarding me with "where's the link" bull hocky.

I have at length explained why there is no link or links, except to what is public and that is enough for a extrapolation.

I really hate the idea that if war were to break out between the US and Russia, (and it likely will) that I will have you on our side.

64 posted on 10/10/2015 2:38:22 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

From a man who presumably has a little more - shall we say -
familiarity with and credibility as concerns the KGB than you presumably do:

Vladimir Putin — yes, he was an officer of the intelligence services, but he was not a KGB investigator, nor was he the head of a camp in the gulag. As for service in foreign intelligence, that is not a negative in any country — sometimes it even draws praise. George Bush Sr. was not much criticized for being the ex-head of the CIA, for example.”

“Putin inherited a ransacked and bewildered country, with a poor and demoralized people. And he started to do what was possible — a slow and gradual restoration. These efforts were not noticed, nor appreciated, immediately. In any case, one is hard pressed to find examples in history when steps by one country to restore its strength were met favorably by other governments.”

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prize Winner for Literature, author of “The Gulag Archipelago,” now required reading in Russian schools.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/spiegel-interview-with-alexander-solzhenitsyn-i-am-not-afraid-of-death-a-496211.html


65 posted on 10/10/2015 2:42:52 PM PDT by marvel5
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To: Cold Heat

Our policies are classified but you know what they are. Keep a lid on it then.


66 posted on 10/10/2015 2:46:38 PM PDT by marvel5
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To: marvel5

I’ll repeat what I said in posts 61 and 62.

I ask you to leave Obama out of this picture because he’s just a temporary occupant of the whitehouse, and look to the history for the last 100 years.

Look at what Germany did under the Hitler regime who took advantage of populism and the German pride.

I don’t see anything different here. It’s was anticipated long ago that this would eventually be the end game....

Have a nice day...


67 posted on 10/10/2015 3:00:14 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

Same wishes to you. I enjoyed exchanging thoughts. Nothing personal.


68 posted on 10/10/2015 3:02:11 PM PDT by marvel5
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To: Cold Heat

Putin is not fooling me. I understand why the sanctions were placed there. My argument is my argument and it has nothing really to do with anything Putin said. It has to do with history, with things we have said in the past, and with resolving conflicts in rational and honest ways. The view I expressed is my own.

As for your comment. Who moved first, NATO or Putin? NATO has been expanding and Russia has been complaining for a long time. We just did what we wanted because we thought Russia wouldn’t respond. Actions have reactions. The Ukraine action was directly related in that Ukraine chose to join the EU, an action that usually leads to eventually joining NATO. Russia has been watching it happen for a long time. They made no secret of their concerns for their own national security. We stopped caring what they think once the Soviet Union fell. Why? Were we lying to them?

If you want to ascribe the worst intentions to Putin then please tell me why his actions all look like responses to the expansion of NATO and NOT like efforts to reestablish the Soviet Union? People are siding with Putin because people against him appear dishonest and appear to be stuck on viewing Russia in an ancient hatred like Arabs view Jews rather than viewing real facts.


69 posted on 10/10/2015 4:20:41 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

NATO is doing the right things, in my view. Generally speaking, but they lack the leadership they once had.

We know from experience over decades that if you let up on Russia no matter who (or is it whom) is in charge, that they will take advantage of it.

The problem that you see now is due to a split between NATO and Obama which has led to a confused foreign policy and a vacuum that Putin is exploiting. This is why he is moving on multiple fronts simultaneously. As is China...

You are reading it as a reaction to US interferences, so that is what he wants you to do and see. He is exploiting Obama and the confusion in NATO has also weakened Western Europe.

China is moving in their sphere, Russia is moving in theirs and both intend to flip the global player roster.

The other old guard Marxist countries are also moving to consolidate power and line up for a eventual confrontation that is sure to occur.

Obama at least has kept his word..he has changed everything, but not for the good of this country. Not for us. All he has done is to upset the power balance. It’s akin to a reactor without the control rods.

We will end up the piñata for the party, when it occurs..

We will reap what he has sewn.

As will the rest of the world as a new order takes the place of the old..


70 posted on 10/10/2015 5:15:37 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: SteveinSATX
Putin ........he’s upset that his goal to spread communism is kept in check...

Who, exactly, is keeping Putin in check? We don't have the credibility, desire or ability to keep anybody in check. Especially the Russians.

71 posted on 10/10/2015 5:24:43 PM PDT by submarinerswife ("I still have a steadfast rule: touch a kid sexually and you deserve a bullet.")
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To: marvel5

Your enthusiasm for Putin scares me.


72 posted on 10/10/2015 5:26:55 PM PDT by submarinerswife ("I still have a steadfast rule: touch a kid sexually and you deserve a bullet.")
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To: submarinerswife
Your enthusiasm for Putin scares me.

It's hard to imagine that there are Americans who swoon for Putin. Putin has become so desperate that he feels compelled to align himself with Assad and the Iranians. This is a guy whose buddies shot down a commercial airliner and then looted the crash site.

I think that there are some Americans who for some reason reflexively take the side of any screwball leader who opposes the USA. They've always been around. Jane Fonda was the best example when I was young, but every generation has them.

73 posted on 10/10/2015 5:36:15 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Cold Heat

I think things are getting dangerous, too, but mainly because we and NATO have encouraged it. Reagan said “We do not distrust each other because we are armed, we are armed because we distrust each other...” He worked to build trust even as that trust had to be verified. The more we now push a renewed attitude of suspicion and distrust the more both sides will rearm and form enemy alliances. We used to listen to the USSR because they were strong. Now we scoff at Russia because we have viewed it as weak, or at least weaker. That seems rotten to me. As the winning side of the Cold War, it is our place to calm their fears more than the other way around.

Thank you very much for your very well worded explanation. The split between NATO and Obama is something I will research further. It still does not change the perspective of Russia, the perspective that we are part of NATO and NATO is expanding toward Russia, not the other way around. I would not call that an exploitation of weakness. I would call that a response to reality. Should he not be vigilant about potential military threats to Russia’s boundaries?


74 posted on 10/10/2015 5:59:19 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

It was Kosovo that poisoned the well, we were in the process of bringing Russia into the fold, but our stupidity in Kosovo confirmed the fears of the hardliners in Russia that the US wanted to dominate the world.


75 posted on 10/10/2015 6:03:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: marvel5

I was a USAF Nuclear Weapons Specialist.

Google is your friend.


76 posted on 10/10/2015 6:09:13 PM PDT by G Larry (Vote Hillary! Pro-Abortion Socialist)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

OK......From my perspective, as I said, NATO generally has done the right things, but they really have done very little. Most everything they have done is verbal banter.

The reason for that is that they are not getting leadership and support from DC.

What is it that you object to. Unless it was the “talk” about placing a military assortment of tanks a weapons in one of the border states on the Russian border, as a reaction to what Russia was doing in the Ukraine.

While they has issued a number of ...ummmm....intentions to get the attention of Putin, they have done very little and are pretty much totally dependent on cash and support from Obama and that has not been forthcoming, which is part and parcel of the entire problem.


77 posted on 10/10/2015 6:13:06 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: 100American

God bless who? Mr. KGB? May God, in his wisdom, DAMN Mr. KGB.


78 posted on 10/10/2015 6:15:28 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: dfwgator

That’s only if you think that Russia was seriously considering joining NATO....

Not that I disagree that our interferences in Kosovo/Serbia was a bad call...

I think we all knew that at the time...

Russia tried like hell to get a piece of that action on the ground and was rebuked fairly forcibly and I am sure it still stings a bit.


79 posted on 10/10/2015 6:18:21 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: marvel5

Following Operation Desert Storm, the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the de facto end of the Cold War, President George H. W. Bush and Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney directed SAC to take all bomber and refueling aircraft and Minuteman II ICBM’s off of continuous nuclear alert on 27 September 1991[85] and placing said aircraft on quick reaction ground alert.[86]

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Air_Command<


80 posted on 10/10/2015 6:18:34 PM PDT by G Larry (Vote Hillary! Pro-Abortion Socialist)
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