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SS United States faces the scrapheap
The Telegraph ^ | 10-08-2015 | Barney Henderson

Posted on 10/08/2015 11:22:29 AM PDT by NRx

Marilyn Monroe, JFK and the Mona Lisa all enjoyed the luxurious Atlantic crossing provided by the Titanic-sized SS United States.

But the famed liner, which still holds the speed record for a crossing between the US and Britain by a passenger ship, now faces its final journey - to the scrapyard.

The SS United States Conservancy organisation can no longer afford the $60,000 a month it costs to dock the ship on the Delaware River in Philadelphia, where it rests, empty and rusting.

The group had planned to turn the ship, which is nicknamed the Big U, into a real estate development for New York's waterfront, which was once the ship's home, but no investors have yet come forward.

Unless that changes by the end of this month, the group said, “we will have no choice but to negotiate the sale of the ship to a responsible recycler”.

Susan Gibbs, executive director of SS United States Conservancy, told the New York Times that the decision to seek bids from scrapyards was "excruciating".

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America's last surviving and greatest transatlantic ocean liner

1 posted on 10/08/2015 11:22:29 AM PDT by NRx
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To: NRx

Most unfortunate, but inevitable.


2 posted on 10/08/2015 11:29:03 AM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: NRx

So true on many levels.


3 posted on 10/08/2015 11:29:17 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: NRx

There were attempts to convert the staterooms on the SS United States into time-share condos in the early 1980’s.
Time and again investor groups looked various options for the ship-including a Queen Mary type hotel. But the ship was just too run-down to do anything. I believe there was also going to be a major expense in removing all of the asbestos on board.


4 posted on 10/08/2015 11:29:54 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: NRx
If I were a rich man ♫ yubeedo...
5 posted on 10/08/2015 11:29:55 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: PoloSec

I remember seeing it when we went to NYC when I was 8 years old. There three like her docked on the East River (I guess). Never thought of it again until I saw this.


6 posted on 10/08/2015 11:32:28 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Da Coyote
Any symbols of the United States are being relegated to the scrap heap by Obama. Nothing new.
7 posted on 10/08/2015 11:32:36 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

I just saw another article that says she may be moving to Brooklyn.


8 posted on 10/08/2015 11:38:04 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: KeyLargo

From another time.
There was a time when military families travelled across the Atlantic and Pacific in ships operated by the Military Sea Transportation Service. Army troops sailed fore and aft and higher ranks and families were quartered in tiny metal staterooms five deep in the middle of the ship.
I made six crossings of the Pacific in these ships, named for long dead Army generals. MSTS was known back then as “the Army’s Navy.”


9 posted on 10/08/2015 11:41:39 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: rockinqsranch

Titanic’s sister ship Olympic survived WWI but not the great depression, and in 1935 she was sold to the scrapyard. Heads of state including FDR wrote to Cunard Lines begging that the ship be spared. No dice, said Cunard, and Olympic sailed under her own steam to be broken up (stripped of her fittings which survive in London pubs).

IMO the SS United States because of its symbolic value should be towed out to sea and scuttled. A less ignominious end than the boneyard.


10 posted on 10/08/2015 11:42:17 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: NRx
That is what a cruise liner is supposed to look like.

Cool

11 posted on 10/08/2015 11:42:17 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: Maine Mariner
Time and again investor groups looked various options for the ship-including a Queen Mary type hotel. But the ship was just too run-down to do anything. I believe there was also going to be a major expense in removing all of the asbestos on board.

Ship is gutted, asbestos is removed, which really precludes the conversion to a hotel - there's nothing left of the original furnishings (or even the propellers, those were all donated...)

Problem with converting it into a time share is that stateroom bulkheads are part of the structure of the ship, it would take a major undertaking to re-structure the internal skeleton to support it. Without any of the furnishings, the attractiveness of a retro-cruise or hotel is gone and far too expensive to replicate.

It is a US flagged ship, so it'd be fine for use for domestic cruises, but the rooms are smaller than most desire, plus of the three sister ships which were converted, only one remains in domestic cruise service in Hawaii, and even that might be pulled by the end of the year.

It is not suitable for a floating museum as there's nothing to exhibit without pulling from the museums and collections that have the fittings...

Honestly, the only thing I can see this as being suited for is a floating university - it's gutted so converting it would be easy, the small rooms would work well for dorms, the common rooms would work well for classes, and shockingly, the engines are extremely well maintained. Aside from fitting out the ship, it would require making new props and it would be good to go.

Alternately, it could be fitted out as a floating immigration port to bring over all those 'refugees' from Europe, processing them during travel.

Anything else, really, just doesn't work.

12 posted on 10/08/2015 11:52:00 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

One of those MSTS ships was the Edwin D. Patrick, named for the 6th Inf Div commander killed in action in the Philippines. In Japan in 1957 we saw a family we knew embark on her in Yokohama. I was eight years old & when wellwishers threw gobs of ticker tape I thought all the tape would prevent the ship from leaving the dock!

Boarded it beforehand; there was very little on the ship that was not painted steel. She was not scrapped until 2010, amazingly.


13 posted on 10/08/2015 11:52:47 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: corkoman

Looks fast standing still - great shot


14 posted on 10/08/2015 11:56:35 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: NRx

How sad. When we were stationed in England in the early 60s my dad (USAF) came home from work one day shortly before we were rotating back stateside. He’d just been told that he had the choice of us flying back or going home on the SS United States.....yep, we came home on her. My dad and I had a ball; my brother and Mother suffered from seasickness most of the time. The most gorgeous sight I’d ever seen and probably will EVER see was sailing into NYC in the early morning hours and there stood the Statue of Liberty in all her glory! This was in early 1962!


15 posted on 10/08/2015 12:01:33 PM PDT by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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To: NRx
We have no POTUS yacht.

The one they had, the Sequoia, is now available for charter, but it has not been used as the Presidential Yacht since Nixon, IIRC.

This would be great for POTUS Trump to spearhead.

Restore all the midcentury retro fittings and posh interiors and make it the coolest Presidential yacht on earth.

It would be magnificent.

16 posted on 10/08/2015 12:15:37 PM PDT by caddie
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To: NRx
The SS United States is in too poor a physical shape to be refurbished. They should have scrapped the ship over a decade ago.
17 posted on 10/08/2015 12:24:49 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: NRx

The last of her generation of great ships, and holder of the Blue Riband.

A tragedy to see her go, but time stands still for no one, including the queens of the seas.


18 posted on 10/08/2015 12:31:11 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: NRx
Built in 1952 and designed for easy conversion to a troop ship if the need arose.
19 posted on 10/08/2015 12:54:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: NRx

If the ship had any other name it would have been scrapped 20 years ago. I’ve seen pictures of the inside of this ship and it is time to scrap it.


20 posted on 10/08/2015 1:35:06 PM PDT by Average Al
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