Posted on 10/06/2015 7:53:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
The Carr brothers case heads to the US Supreme Court Wednesday.
The justices will hear oral arguments about whether or not the two Wichita men convicted of murdering five people should have had their death sentences overturned by the Kansas Supreme Court.
Jonathan and Reginald Carr received the death penalty during their 2002 trial in Sedgwick County.
Last year, the Kansas Supreme Court ruled the two brothers should have been given separate trials, and threw out their sentences. Now, the state is asking the nation's highest court to decide their fate.
"There's only about 100 cases that are chosen each year by the Supreme Court, and there's probably more than 10,000 people that apply," said former Sedgwick County DA Nola Foulston, who prosecuted the case. "Making it to the Supreme Court shows these cases are very important."
Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt will represent the state before the high court in Washington DC.
Foulston says she'll be following what happens from Wichita.
"The two outcomes would be the case would be reversed and remanded," Foulston said. "Then on the other side of that, if the Supreme Court says we don't see a problem, it will be left in the same position it was, which was to either re-try the case or not employ the death penalty."
Regardless of what happens, Foulston says the Carr brothers have no chance of being released. When the Kansas Supreme Court overturned the death penalty, it upheld a single capital murder conviction for each of them.
"They're not going anywhere," Foulston said. "The best outcome, if all things fall apart, is they'll still be in prison."
Foulston says it will take a few months before the Supreme Court makes its ruling.
The justices will also hear arguments Wednesday on the Sidney Gleason case. Gleason was convicted of capital murder and sentenced to death for the 2004 shooting deaths of two people in Barton County. In July 2014, the Kansas Supreme court upheld Gleason's convictions, but reversed his death sentence.
Didn’t they torture poor white couple over the course of hours and HOURS, using fire, amputation and rape..?
This case is huge and covered up.
It sounded like something a Hutu would have done to a Tsutsi.
I think this was as beastly and sordid as anything I’ve read from the Holocaust or Cambodia and NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT IT.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Massacre
In fact, the wiki listing does omit the most shocking aspects of the case.
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The Carrs initially scoured the house for valuables. H.G. learned of Befort’s intent to propose marriage to her when the Carrs discovered the engagement ring he had hidden in a can of popcorn. After the search, the Carrs forced their hostages to strip naked, bound and detained them, and subjected them to various forms of sexual abuse, including rape and oral sex.[7] The brothers forced the men to engage in sexual acts with the women, and the women with each other. They drove the victims to ATMs to empty their bank accounts, before taking them to a snowy deserted soccer complex on the outskirts of town. There they shot the five execution-style in the backs of their heads. The Carr brothers drove Befort’s truck over the bodies and left them for dead.
H.G. survived her head wound at the soccer field because her plastic barrette deflected the bullet. After the killers left, she walked naked for more than a mile in freezing weather to seek first aid and shelter at a house. Before getting medical treatment, she reported the incident and descriptions of her attackers to the couple who took her in, even before the police arrived.
The Carrs had returned to the friends’ house to ransack it for more valuables, and while there killed H.G.’s dog Nikki, which was muzzled. The next day the police captured the Carr brothers. Reginald was identified by both Schreiber and the dying Walenta. The District Attorney said that, based on evidence in the case, the Carrs’ motive was robbery.[1]
With the help of HG’s testimony at the trial, the Carr brothers were convicted of nearly all 113 counts against them, including kidnapping, robbery, rape, four counts of capital murder, and one count of first-degree murder. Reginald Carr was convicted of 50 counts and Jonathan Carr of 43. They were each sentenced to death for the capital murders, as well as to life in prison, with decades to serve before being eligible for parole.[4] Their cases were appealed.
It’s because of a drug addled judge that this case was covered up. He should be serving time beside them.
No, that was a different case.
These two scum broke into a house (town house, I think), beat the 6 people inside, raped the women multiple times, forced all of the victims to perform sexual acts on each other, robbed them of money, took some of the victims to ATM machines and forced them to withdraw money, and finally stuffed them into a car, drove them to a deserted field, shot them all, and then drove over them with the car. Five people died, but the sixth survived.
Oh, and then they went back to the house and stole TVs, other electronics, and jewelry.
I don’t understand how they could NOT get the death penalty.
Regards,
PS: I’m pretty sure they killed at least one other person that night, before they went to the house.
I don’t understand how they could NOT get the death penalty.
Because they are Sons of Obama. no other reason.
Well, you’re right about that, Gasshog.
Regards,
The Founders and their immediate offspring would have taken out this particular trash before the week was out, after they'd been captured.
Instead, The GBGLACJM blows giant piles of taxpeasant money "achieving justice".
This is just the legal system tax ticks rubbing our noses in their power.
These two monsters definitely deserve the death penalty. It is horrible that they have been allowed to live this long.
I think they also murdered a cellist from the Wichita Symphony.
Just for context, Kansas hasn’t executed anyone in fifty years. We don’t really have a death penalty...just death row till you die of natural causes.
Yes, that’s right. The poor woman was a cellist. Thank you.
Regards,
You were correct!
I was thinking of the KNOXVILLE Massacre, which was almost as horrible, and had some common characteristics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
If its a disgusting, heinous, mind-bogglingly filthy crime, it probably happened in Wichita.
We do in Kansas. Wichita is our city of evil. I won’t go there except to see my husband’s aging cousins and then only on Sunday afternoon.
You answered your own question.
The only thing to decide is whether they should be executed by machete or fire - or both.
Savages. I think this case was on the Investigative Discovery channel...
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