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El Faro owners say mechanical failure left cargo ship adrift amid Hurricane Joaquin
FoxNews ^ | October 06, 2015 | FoxNews

Posted on 10/06/2015 6:33:38 AM PDT by WhiskeyX

The owners of a cargo ship that disappeared Thursday with 33 people on board as Hurricane Joaquin raged said the ship's captain had planned to skirt the storm, but was prevented from doing so by a mechanical failure that left the boat adrift in the path of the power storm.

Phil Greene, president and CEO of ship owner Tote Services Inc., told the Associated Press the captain of the El Faro, whose name has not been released, had conferred with her sister ship — which was returning to Jacksonville, Fla. along a similar route — and determined the weather was good enough to go forward.

"Regrettably he suffered a mechanical problem with his main propulsion system, which left him in the path of the storm," Greene said. "We do not know when his engine problems began to occur, nor the reasons for his engine problems."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Russia; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: coastguard; elfaro; hurricane
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To: Yo-Yo

Given that submarines are called boats, the term may be more appropriate at this point.


21 posted on 10/06/2015 8:36:44 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: WhiskeyX

I saw a 1950’s movie like this where the owner of a ship wanted to get the insurance money. He failed to tell the captain or the crew about it.


22 posted on 10/06/2015 9:04:38 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: WhiskeyX

What were they doing sailing an old ship into a known hurricane?


23 posted on 10/06/2015 9:21:18 AM PDT by expat2
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To: dragonblustar

These guys had a bit of luck courtesy “Big John”

http://articles.philly.com/1999-09-16/news/25488832_1_aircraft-carrier-high-seas-rescue-flight-deck


24 posted on 10/06/2015 9:32:31 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: deport

Fedor said the ship was carrying 391 containers “so it had a lot of topside height to it where
the wind and waves could hit it” and that there were 294 trailers and automobiles below deck.
The part of the ocean where it sank is 15,000ft deep.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/05/missing-cargo-ship-el-faro-likely-sank-hurricane-joaquin


25 posted on 10/06/2015 9:36:43 AM PDT by deport
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To: Yo-Yo

Anything too big for one skilled sailor to handle solo is a ship. We still call them “boats” amongst ourselves.


26 posted on 10/06/2015 9:37:19 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: ErnBatavia

heard a sea lawyer on one of the talking head shows last night ... said that this one one of four identical sisterships built in 1975, two of which have already been scrapped .... this one had been retro fitted to add an additional 27’ of hull length, something which may have contributed to its breakup


27 posted on 10/06/2015 9:41:24 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: Cold Heart

Free moving water, worst case flooding in a large space like the engine room, destabilizes the ship. Wonder if wind buffeting allowed spray to force seals and fill containers on deck?


28 posted on 10/06/2015 9:42:26 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

Don’t know about containers taking water but apparenlty the ship was.

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Some water had entered through a hatch that popped open, but the captain told
company officials the crew was pumping it out.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/06/el-faro-cargo-ship-crew-hurricane-conditions-lifeboats


29 posted on 10/06/2015 9:50:05 AM PDT by deport
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To: Yo-Yo
I was in the Air Force, not the Navy, but as a day sailor, I'm pretty sure that the term 'boat' would not apply to the El Faro.

My brother was a "sewer pipe sailor" and made it clear that the only boats in the Navy were submarines. That may actually be appropriate for the El Faro as it went under in some very deep water near crooked island. The Coast Guard cutters located quite a bit of flotsam and an oil slick. The seas were one foot with a 12 knot wind. If they could have held out one more day they most likely would have survived.

Regards,
GtG

30 posted on 10/06/2015 10:06:06 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, but it's OK. They all know me here.)
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To: Maine Mariner

I agree.


31 posted on 10/06/2015 10:07:04 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Philippians 2:10)
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To: taxcontrol

All multi-decade ships are money pits. Oil fired steam turbine power-plant are “rare”. Comes with distilled water makers and oil fired boilers.


32 posted on 10/06/2015 10:16:45 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: deport
Some El Faro history via Wikipedia. Can't vouch for accuracy, etc.

Construction and earlier career

El Faro was built by the Sun Shipbuilding and Drydock Corporation in Chester, Pennsylvania,
in 1975 as Puerto Rico.[1] In 1991, the ship was renamed Northern Lights; two years later, it was
lengthened by 90 feet (27 m) at Alabama Shipyard, Inc.[1]

Originally operated by the Navieras de Puerto Rico Steamship Company, the Puerto Rico
hauled cargo to and from the U.S. East Coast for more than two decades.[citation needed] The
vessel was purchased by TOTE Maritime in Tacoma, Washington, renamed Northern Lights, and
placed in service between Tacoma and Anchorage, Alaska.[citation needed] Northern Lights
continued to steam between these two ports until the early 2000s, when the ship was chartered to the
Military Sealift Command of the United States Navy.[citation needed] The ship was later transferred by TOTE to
its subsidiary company Sea Star Lines and renamed El Faro. It then returned to coastwise liner
service between Jacksonville, Florida, and San Juan, Puerto Rico.[citation needed]

33 posted on 10/06/2015 10:23:13 AM PDT by deport
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Sister ship “Great Land” once suffered cracking of the hull while in service on the Tacoma to Alaska run.

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/business/2013/03/15/totes-ss-great-land-is-towed-away-to-the-ship-breakers-after-illustrious-tacoma-career/


34 posted on 10/06/2015 10:24:39 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

“Thousand footer” ore carriers crack hulls nearly every season on the run from Lake Superior down to Lake Erie.
There is a channel called the rock cut that can snag these big girls. There goes the captain’s bonus for the year...


35 posted on 10/06/2015 10:29:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: Ozark Tom

Note open areas on stern for RORO truck cargo access. Many ferry accidents attributed to rough seas are related to failure of these points.

http://memorieshop.com/Greatland/Swan-Island-2007.jpg

http://memorieshop.com/Greatland/index.html

http://memorieshop.com/Greatland/tote.pdf


36 posted on 10/06/2015 10:47:16 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: wardaddy; deport
Good guess, wardaddy:

"El Faro was built by the Sun Shipbuilding and Drydock Corporation in Chester, Pennsylvania, in 1975 as Puerto Rico.[1] In 1991, the ship was renamed Northern Lights; two years later, it was lengthened by 90 feet (27 m) at Alabama Shipyard, Inc.[1]"

37 posted on 10/06/2015 11:31:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: grania

At the point in time and location the storm wasn’t ‘unpredictable’; the ship pretty much sailed right into it or at least very close.

It wasn’t until later that the storm started on its veer-to-the-east path.


38 posted on 10/06/2015 1:34:30 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: deport; Travis McGee

Our sounding stopped around 500-1000 fathoms

Then it would just say MSD on the display

A country good old boy man of a man on the boat pondered that for a bit and declared it must mean Mighty Shittin Deep

He’s long gone but we still chuckle over that 30 years later

Bartlett and Yucatan trenches


39 posted on 10/06/2015 2:18:21 PM PDT by wardaddy (The establishment needs destroying)
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To: ErnBatavia

That makes sense. My office is near the harbor in Baltimore. When I first moved here, the El Faro was moored at the same dock for months. Later, I saw it moored at another dock for what seemed like months. I wonder if it was undergoing serious maintenance.


40 posted on 10/06/2015 3:57:33 PM PDT by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people)
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