Posted on 10/01/2015 9:42:44 PM PDT by tcrlaf
Most C-130 mishaps on take-off are due to shifting internal loads, payload not secured or loose, upon rotation the payload shifts to the rear of the aircraft thereby moving the CG way aft and the aircraft pitches up and is unable to recover.
Too early to know for certain, but I’d be very surprised if it was lost due to hostile fire.
Anyone can shoot down anyone with a well placed “magic BB”. . .but having said that, see Post 21.
Post 21.
I would agree with your fundamentals, an old classmate was a 130 driver and she is one tough bird
Unfortunately the GTA misslesthey have are the latest shoulder fire ones which tilt the table, dependent of course on location of the shooter at the time of downing. As a follow on to your shifting cargo it could be that evasive action related to AA or GTA missles shifted it and caused a stall and crash...
Just postulating, but NO response from Gov on yay or nay, swept under the rug...
Watch and See, threads are unraveling...
Agree. Too early.
The USAF will publish an initial report within 10-days and within 60-days the final will be published.
If shot down, we will know (people will talk if there are any tin-foil hats out there that feel a cover-up is in the works).
Side note (not a fight, an observation): it seems people always say females in the military that they know are “tough” “hard” or use any number of masculine terms to describe them. . .thereby providing acknowledgement that feminine qualities have no place in a warrior culture. . .that manliness reigns and females have to ACT like a man. . .while at the same time we see in media and popular culture manly warrior chest-thumping testosterone-driven aggression mocked while at the same time females in the military affect this same manly chest-thumping behavior/trait and are extolled. . .
So sad that Satan has set up rule in so many places that used to be Human and Admirable. Depressing, nauseating, miserable.
These Muslims are NOT extremists...they are practicing Islam according to Islamic teachings, according to Mohammed and the Koran, as well as Muslim Clerics and Political Leaderships...... From the Warlords of the Taliban in Apfghanitstan...to those fighting in Syria, Yemen, Libya, Sudan and other African nations ....to Israel, Sinai and Lebanon, Pakistan, Somalia ,Turkey, etc. etc. the list goes on all regarding Islams duty to subdue the nations and decclare them Islamic nations..... ISIS and ISIL and other terrorist groups are simply the Military arm of Islam.
Not one single country where Islam is has brought Peace?
They ruin everything their hands touch......but then considering who they follow it can be nothing else but that.
Remember, there are over 20,000 shoulder launched missiles in the region due to Hillary and Obama. Simple search will find multiple reports of that:
“Free for all: Up to 20,000 anti-aircraft missiles stolen in Libya”- The Daily Caller By Neil Munro - The Daily Caller
September 27, 2011 3:54 PM”
C-130 on approach or take off is a sitting duck.
Obama’s legacy gets another notch?
Just sayin’
Yup.
Don’t know yet.
"We know that ISIL, which emerged out of the chaos of Iraq and Syria, depends on perpetual war to survive. But we also know that they gain adherence(sic) because of a poisonous ideology. So part of our job, together, is to work to reject such extremism that infects too many of our young people. Part of that effort must be a continued rejection by Muslims of those who distort Islam to preach intolerance and promote violence, and it must also involve a rejection by non-Muslims of the ignorance that equates Islam with terror."
ps I think he means "adherents", but otherwise the English isn't too bad.
There is a youtube of the C17 (IIRC) that crashed leaving Bagram due to a load shift. Very dramatic, and the flight was doomed as soon as the shift happened.
The Herc is a solid performer, but crashes are not unknown.
The late night departure was due to fear of local Taliban and a possible shootdown attempt? Don’t know, but it will come out in the report if that was the case, and the cause of the crash as well.
Agree and with an odd tangental proof
Went on a dating site and took a manly I am king of my home posture, not quitre dripping with testosterone but damned close...
My mailbox exploded, around the world across cultures women professed they wanted Real Men, not the effeminate body shavers that the media promotes
Not just a few messages, all told more than 2000
Not bragging, it was Gods light in my eyes and acting as a Man should that they all comment on
Women outside the US want to be women, here in the US....regional at best
Can anyone tell me why the Taliban survived to see 2002 let alone 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015?
The Nazis only made it 3.5 years after we got in WW2.
If we aren’t gonna WIPE OUT these scum then it’s time to stop wasting lives and money and just cut out.
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