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What happened to John Boehner hasn’t happened in a century. No one knows what comes next
washingtonpost.com ^ | 9/30/15 | Jeffery A. Jenkins and Charles Stewart III

Posted on 09/30/2015 9:44:07 AM PDT by cotton1706

John A. Boehner’s resignation from the House, and thus the speakership, comes in the midst of a leadership struggle not seen for a century. The last time a sitting speaker was challenged by his own party was in 1910, with a revolt against Joseph G. Cannon (R-Ill.).

As scholars of the history and development of the speaker as an elected position in the House (see our book and previous Monkey Cage posts here and here), we are interested in how Boehner’s exit will affect the Republican Party and the House. Most observers have asked two questions: •Will Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) succeed Boehner as speaker? •Will the 40 of the most conservative Republicans who wanted Boehner out try to control the speakership, either now or at the start of the next Congress?

We think another set of questions also should be asked: •Is Boehner’s resignation the beginning of the end for the system that has guided the election of the speaker since the Civil War? If so, how will speakers be chosen in the future? And how would that affect the role of Congress in national affairs?

These additional questions are important, because Boehner is stepping down in the shadow of a formal challenge staged within his party.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections
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THIS is why they're scared. Because those in Washington move in a pre-determined, outcome-known, carefully-choreographed world.

Things are happening that they didn't plan on their big chessboard, and they don't know what to do!

1 posted on 09/30/2015 9:44:07 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

I still think that someone has some really nasty dirt on Bonehead. And they wanted him out.


2 posted on 09/30/2015 9:45:30 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: cotton1706

Leadership in the GOP is going to remain unsettled until the Leadership’s agenda matches up to the opinions of a majority of voters in the GOP, and the American people. Unfortunately for the GOPe, there are just too many informed voters that realize that the GOP is now lead by a bunch of lying, corrupt cronies. The next one up may be McCarthy, but he may not last as long as an Italian govt if he doesn’t change the agenda.


3 posted on 09/30/2015 9:48:19 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: cotton1706

Jeffery & Charles, Shut up!

It does not happen often enough. The concentration of power is the problem.


4 posted on 09/30/2015 9:49:04 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: cotton1706

[[No one knows what comes next]]

Sure we do- they will hire John Boener light by hiring the California rino to take his place- and everything will be just the same as it’s always been


5 posted on 09/30/2015 9:50:46 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

Exactly


6 posted on 09/30/2015 9:56:18 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

McCarthy’s ongoing affair with a married Congresswoman hit today. May axe his chances


7 posted on 09/30/2015 10:01:56 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: cotton1706

I read the entire article.

A complete waste of time.

Kevin McCarthy will be the next Speaker.

His district is quite heavily Mexican-American.

Figure it out.


8 posted on 09/30/2015 10:03:33 AM PDT by onyx
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To: rstrahan

Lord, hear our prayer.


9 posted on 09/30/2015 10:05:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: cotton1706

“THIS is why they’re scared. Because those in Washington move in a pre-determined, outcome-known, carefully-choreographed world. “

Sort of like organized crime.


10 posted on 09/30/2015 10:09:40 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: cotton1706

A: Another RINO scalp for our wall, if they don’t understand yet.


11 posted on 09/30/2015 10:10:21 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (We must first defeat RINOs before we can even encounter a Democrat to fight)
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To: Bob434

Exactly. McCarthy is a Boehner mini me.


12 posted on 09/30/2015 10:20:46 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: onyx

Not at all a waste, great history background.
The money quote:
“Since the Civil War, electing a speaker has relied on the majority party buying off dissident factions, either with policy concessions or powerful House positions. “
And that is exactly what is inclined to happen here. If not then the Dem/RINO alliance Boehner led will continue- to the detriment of all Republicans no matter who is Speaker.

More importantly, it explains Boehner’s disastrous tenure: HE WOULD NOT COMPROMISE, HE WOULD NOT GIVE CONSERVATIVES EITHER POLICY CONCESSIONS OR POSITIONS.
The media narrative is the opposite of course.


13 posted on 09/30/2015 10:28:07 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: cotton1706

Actually the Washington Post is next - we want their editor to resign... (just kidding - thought I’d pull their chain)


14 posted on 09/30/2015 10:37:04 AM PDT by GOPJ ("The Lives of Others" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: rstrahan

Remember reading something while back about this - is there new info??


15 posted on 09/30/2015 10:43:51 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: cotton1706
The last time a sitting speaker was challenged by his own party was in 1910...

Really? What about Newt Gingrich in 1977?

From Wikipedia:


In the summer of 1997 several House Republicans attempted to replace him as Speaker, claiming Gingrich's public image was a liability. The attempted "coup" began July 9 with a meeting of Republican conference chairman John Boehner of Ohio and Republican leadership chairman Bill Paxon of New York. According to their plan, House Majority Leader Dick Armey, House Majority Whip Tom DeLay, Boehner and Paxon were to present Gingrich with an ultimatum: resign, or be voted out. However, Armey balked at the proposal to make Paxon the new Speaker, and told his chief of staff to warn Gingrich. On July 11, Gingrich met with senior Republican leadership to assess the situation. He explained that under no circumstance would he step down. If he was voted out, there would be a new election for Speaker. This would allow for the possibility that Democrats, along with dissenting Republicans, would vote in Democrat Dick Gephardt as Speaker. On July 16, Paxon offered to resign his post, feeling that he had not handled the situation correctly, as the only member of the leadership who had been appointed to his position—by Gingrich—instead of elected.

And who was it that led the aborted challenge against Gingrich?

-PJ

16 posted on 09/30/2015 10:47:21 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: cotton1706

Newt was challenged for Speakership by Bob Livingston between sessions in 1998.


17 posted on 09/30/2015 11:07:29 AM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: fwdude

“I still think that someone has some really nasty dirt on Bonehead. And they wanted him out.”

That’s a given. Also, I think having the Pope, (such as he is) there in Congress, maybe made him think it was a “go to Jesus moment” for him.


18 posted on 09/30/2015 11:09:16 AM PDT by kiltie65
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To: cotton1706

The soon-to-be-former Speaker can open a Speakeasy near Capitol Hill and do what he really excels in doing...


19 posted on 09/30/2015 12:41:41 PM PDT by Skybird
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Newt was challenged for Speakership by Bob Livingston between sessions in 1998.

Do you remember what happened to Livingston?

20 posted on 09/30/2015 4:08:06 PM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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