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Ted Cruz has a point: The GOP base and donor base ....
WashPo ^ | 9/30/15 | Philip Bump

Posted on 09/30/2015 8:22:07 AM PDT by VinL

The people who show up at the polls, who elected you and me, and who elected this Republican majority," Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) said on the Senate floor Monday evening, "far too many of the Republican donors look down on those voters as a bunch of ignorant hicks and rubes."

Blocked from adding an amendment to a government funding bill, Cruz spoke for an hour about the problems within his party until he was eventually refused additional time to press his point.

The point about the disconnect between donors and the base, which was pointed out by CNN's Teddy Schleifer, neatly encapsulates Cruz's tenure in Washington and the value proposition he hopes to offer 2016 voters. Cruz expressed frustration at "show votes" that were intended to raise an issue important to the base but were expected to fail -- blaming the donor class for that strategy.

The crux of that argument is worth quoting in its entirety.

The billionaires who write the giant checks that fund President Obama and Hillary Clinton and the Democrats on that side of the aisle, they don't despise the radical gay rights movement or the radical environmentalist movement or all of the people that knock on doors and get Democrats elected. The simple reality is a very large percentage of the Republican donors actively despise our base, actively despise the men and women who showed up and voted you and me into office. I can tell you when you sit down and talk with a New York billionaire Republican donor -- and I have talked with quite a few New York billionaire Republican donors, California Republican donors, their questions start out as follows. First of all, you've got to come out for gay marriage, you need to be pro-choice, and...

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Musing with the notion that Cruz should announce that he won't seek re-election to the Senate because it's corrupted ---("came to DC to serve the people, but I'm unable to do so, because the US Senate is currently controlled by the special interests..."). Not saying he should-- just wondering how that would play out ---
1 posted on 09/30/2015 8:22:07 AM PDT by VinL
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To: VinL

Liberal elites play their base for fools... and that includes the gullible ones in the press.

It’s bad for us - but not as bad as it is for the liberal base...


2 posted on 09/30/2015 8:25:34 AM PDT by GOPJ ("The Lives of Others" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: VinL

Stay there and stick the shiv deeper.


3 posted on 09/30/2015 8:29:38 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (We must first defeat RINOs before we can even encounter a Democrat to fight)
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To: VinL

All I know is that I’m glad, very glad, that he’s there now even if his hands are tied to do nothing more than be a gadfly, a thorn in their side, and a Jeremiah to the corrupt thieves and liars in Congress. He’s there, he actually sees what they do and how they operate, whereas I can only use my common sense to come to the same conclusions, and he has a platform from which to call them out on it to the public, in public, which I don’t, so that at least if they’re going to be corrupt liars and thieves, they don’t get to hode and pretend that they aren’t such, and that they “did the best they could”, when all they did was showboat and then take the bribe/whatever to advance Hussein’s agenda, and to hell with the American people who put them there.


4 posted on 09/30/2015 8:31:00 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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The senate leadership would pat each other on the back, the diners would say well done, and the public would forget about him.


5 posted on 09/30/2015 8:31:28 AM PDT by etcb
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To: VinL
Musing with the notion that Cruz should announce that he won't seek re-election to the Senate because it's corrupted ---("came to DC to serve the people, but I'm unable to do so, because the US Senate is currently controlled by the special interests..."). Not saying he should-- just wondering how that would play out ---

The more good guys that bail only leaves us in worse condition - sometimes a good man has to wallow in the muck to fight the battles that need to be fought.

6 posted on 09/30/2015 8:31:29 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: VinL

While I don’t have any issues with billionaires doing well and earning lots of money, the simple fact is that they generally don’t have a clue about the world from our perspective.

While many of our founders were quite wealthy for their time, they lived in a world where they were in constant contact with all levels of society without filter. In fact many of our founders were virtually destitute themselves. That mixture of men made a wise conscious choice to build a nation without aristocracy in sole control of the nation.


7 posted on 09/30/2015 8:32:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: etcb

Diners - doners


8 posted on 09/30/2015 8:33:38 AM PDT by etcb
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To: cripplecreek

They surely know that all the dysfunction they support (sodomite “rights”, “mirage”, abortion, subsidised single motherhood, etc) hurts the “little people”, which is the majority of us, more than it hurts them. Charles Murray talks about this in his book “Coming Apart”.


9 posted on 09/30/2015 8:37:16 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Uncle Miltie; etcb; mrsmel; trebb

1. Almost certain he would seek reelection to the Senate in 2018– opponents will say he can’t get anything done for Texans. And Cruz doesn’t want to be an insider, anyway.

2. This presidential election goes to the outsider– He distances himself from the Senate, and tells the nation why an honest elected official cannot exist in DC.


10 posted on 09/30/2015 8:40:31 AM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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Sorry, the above post should read:

1. Almost certain he would NOT seek reelection to the Senate in 2018– opponents will say he can’t get anything done for Texans.

2. This presidential election goes to the outsider– He distances himself from the Senate, and tells the nation why an honest elected official cannot exist in DC.


11 posted on 09/30/2015 8:42:14 AM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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Sen. Cruz must sometimes feel like “A voice crying in the Wilderness”.


12 posted on 09/30/2015 8:42:39 AM PDT by teletech
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To: mrsmel

As ted Cruz has said of the political/media beltway types. They see our quaint parochial views in flyover country and think they know better than we do what is best for us. Its a typical progressive view held even by those who consider themselves to be conservative.


13 posted on 09/30/2015 8:46:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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And in the upper percentiles of wealth, most of them actually live by the “moral code”, though they may not call it that or see it as such, that they disdain to support for the entire country-they work, they marry before having children, they make sure their children get the best education they can buy, etc. It’s as if they know just what will create a class of peons and serfs, and cheerlead for that lifestyle, for the rest of us, while not practicng it themselves (they also make sure to live away from, and send their children to schools far away from, the “diversity” that they screech the rest of us need to embrace. When they “embrace” a token bit of diversity, it’s always one of the “talented tenth”, not one of the “dysfunctional ninety-ninth”).


14 posted on 09/30/2015 8:52:20 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: VinL

This is a vicious circle. The pubbies try to quietly vote for issues favored by the major donors, which alienates the voters who respond by withholding donations to the pubbies, which in turn causes the pubbies to become ever more beholden to the donor class. Even Ted Cruz’s own website calls for a 500% increase in H-1B visas.


15 posted on 09/30/2015 8:52:28 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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Musing with the notion that Cruz should announce that he won't seek re-election to the Senate because it's corrupted ---("came to DC to serve the people, but I'm unable to do so, because the US Senate is currently controlled by the special interests..."). Not saying he should-- just wondering how that would play out ---

Evil prevails because good men do nothing.

16 posted on 09/30/2015 8:52:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To turn and run is cowardly. to stand and fight, even against impossible odds, is what heroes do


17 posted on 09/30/2015 8:53:01 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: trebb

Indeed. I believe Burke had it right

The only thing necessary for triumph of evil is for good men to do NOTHING


18 posted on 09/30/2015 8:55:11 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: etcb

Or maybe you mean donors


19 posted on 09/30/2015 8:55:41 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: VinL

Personally, I believe that Cruz is God’s test to America. Will we get behind a man who is morally superior to most of the rest of the candidates, who is flawed, but whose conservative creds are the highest of all on the platform? I was upset at a couple of his votes, yes. However, when viewed along with the rest of the field, he is heads above them. Will we actually choose a man who is righteous or will we go for the one with the best media coverage? One who has recently come to his republican “values” but of which are still untested? For all we know, Trump, Florina and Rubio could be great at the debates because they are given hand-picked questions to make them look good. Cruz is almost ignored. WHY? Because they media do not want him to get an inch. He is a gentleman and yet he could take the rest of them down if it were a real debate and not a feeding frenzy.

I’d personally love to see more of the forums like the recent Values Voters forum, giving the candidates a chance to speak freely on the issues and give complete thoughts. These debates are intended to put forth the GOPe candidates and give them more opportunity. Yes, I know that Trump is not their cup of tea, but their aim is to make him look ridiculous in these. In a real debate forum, there would be equal time given to all candidates and all candidates would remark about the SAME issues, giving people a look at each candidate’s stand on the issues.

These are not real debates. We need to write the RNC and demand a change in the format. And, to demand that conservative forums be given a chance to host, as well. Questions should be garnered around the issues that republicans are concerned about and not questions the left are trying to hoodwink the right on. This is not right. I’m sick of the left controlling the narrative at every presidential debate.


20 posted on 09/30/2015 9:02:18 AM PDT by Shery (Pray for righteousness to be restored and for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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