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Hurricane Joaquin
Wunderground/Noaa ^ | 9/30/2015

Posted on 09/30/2015 4:52:38 AM PDT by dirtboy

Just upgraded at 8am advisory.



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: florida; hurricane; joaquin
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To: dirtboy

Oh great. Another uninvited illegal invader coming to our shores......


61 posted on 09/30/2015 7:56:49 AM PDT by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: NELSON111
11 am advisory out - now forecast to make major hurricane strength and track shifted slightly westward:


62 posted on 09/30/2015 7:59:51 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Models are starting to come into agreement that Christie will get a chance for another Bromance moment with Idi Obama.


63 posted on 09/30/2015 8:00:34 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Why is the European Model always the best predictor? Why not the American Model? Do we now suck at everything???

Best Model is to find out where Jim Cantore has reservations.

64 posted on 09/30/2015 8:02:33 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: N. Theknow

Isn’t that the truth!


65 posted on 09/30/2015 8:05:17 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: dirtboy

The current NHC track is a compromise of two possible tracks....and the one that probably has the less likely chance of occurring. It’s either headed to NC/VA or out to sea (AKA the ECMWF). Tricky one to figure out.


66 posted on 09/30/2015 8:07:56 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111

I think they are giving some deference to the Euro model since it did such a good job with Sandy - but I don’t see how this goes so far east with such a large blocking high to the north. The Euro sees a coastal low developing to kick Joaquin to the east.


67 posted on 09/30/2015 8:10:38 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
>>>I think they are giving some deference to the Euro model since it did such a good job with Sandy - but I don’t see how this goes so far east with such a large blocking high to the north. The Euro sees a coastal low developing to kick Joaquin to the east.

Funny...I was just about to type the same thing...lol.

I listened to the conference call the NHC does and they are certainly giving deference to the Euro....but as you pointed out (which is what I was about to post), the EURO is putting some huge coastal low off the SE US....which IMO isn't going to happen. If you split the difference (which is what the ensembles are doing) then the EURO is still east of the GFS but it's much closer to the US. I just dont see two lows (AKA the EURO) off the US. If you look at it and then find a happy medium...then Joaquin is sitting SSE of Hatteras by Sunday.

So in essence the EURO is a slower GFS solution given a longer time spinning near the Bahamas with a hit on the mid atlantic by Sunday evening or so.

68 posted on 09/30/2015 8:18:21 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111
I think Joaquin is going to suck in what is left of 99L and that will close out the possibility of a coastal low that the Euro is seeing.


69 posted on 09/30/2015 8:29:42 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

This one reply is to all the superior PhDs that have spoken from Mt. Sinai. I own a property in Ocean City, MD., although I am not there now. I have been checking everything possible to get a bead on the storm’s direction. I drew my conclusion from:

A. Its current track is SW.

B. The local TV weather departments, the last I checked, are NOT hyping the storm as coming up the coast within the next 5 days. Rain, yes. Some wind, yes. Hurricaine, no.

If it turns out that y’all are right and I’m wrong, don’t celebrate too much, ‘cause you ain’t gettin’ no virgin. I’ve been wrong so many times in my days, it’s exhausting to think about it.

OTOH, I’ve seen so many forecasts turn out to be fizzles that they’re almost legend. I guess what we have here is a Mexican standoff. So all I can do is hide and watch and hope everyone comes through it unscathed.


70 posted on 09/30/2015 8:30:44 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Tucker39
B. The local TV weather departments...

LOL! I guess that settles the argument.

71 posted on 09/30/2015 8:34:54 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Tucker39
This one reply is to all the superior PhDs that have spoken from Mt. Sinai.

Get over yourself. We showed with historical storm tracks that your claim about hurricanes not making 90+ degree turns was dead wrong yet you persist in your ignorance. If you pay attention to your local TV forecasters, they will be saying there is a chance of local impact, but no certainty - which is why you see cones of uncertainty on the NHC forecast maps that get larger with each passing day. That is the nature of hurricane forecasting - pay attention to data, models and historical analogs, instead of pulling nonsense out of one's arse the way you have on this thread.

72 posted on 09/30/2015 8:38:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

How long before the media starts hyping ‘Superstorm Joaquin: the Sequel’? Glad I do not have cable...


73 posted on 09/30/2015 8:43:03 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: GOYAKLA

Jeanne was powerful!! Good thing it was a fast mover. It hit 2 weeks after (before?) Francis and I thought we were all headed to Oz.


74 posted on 09/30/2015 8:44:41 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: dirtboy

The Elena track in the Gulf was pretty wild. (1985)

And yes, a cold front is going to steer this ‘cane north and then the front stalls and may go stationary. NC and VA may be in for a good amount of rain.


75 posted on 09/30/2015 9:02:00 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: who knows what evil?

Sandy ended up living up to the hype. Hopefully the Euro model is right and Joaquin goes out to sea, because the mid Atlantic and New England are already going to have saturated ground from the heavy rains this week.


76 posted on 09/30/2015 9:05:08 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Tucker39

All the current track means is it’s the CURRENT track.

My concern is the farther west this goes, the greater the risk for the northern SC/mid NC coast, rather than further up.


77 posted on 09/30/2015 9:07:28 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: NELSON111
Distinct eye forming, I think Joaquin approaching Cat 2 intensity:


78 posted on 09/30/2015 9:08:25 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: cork

“Leaving Fri evening for a week on the Outer Banks. Haven’t had a vacation in 5 years. Me and Joaquin better not have a problem”

One of these hurricanes is going to someday take out the Outer Banks. And then the eco-system on NC will really change.

I would probably consider other plans and I would think if a hotel, that they would cancel on you.


79 posted on 09/30/2015 9:16:05 AM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: cork

Joaquin won’t have a problem but there are only so many ways to get off the OBX.

A traffic mess may be in your future. You may want to stay inland until Monday.


80 posted on 09/30/2015 9:20:33 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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