Posted on 09/29/2015 3:16:11 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
"On the northern border, in Syria, there has been unrest for four years now,” said Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon Tuesday. “Despite this, we have been able to keep this threat away from the residents of the Golan Heights and the North.
"We have been following a very clear policy,” he added. “In this matter, we are intolerant toward any breach of our sovereignty. There are other developments in Syria, as well, like the Russian presence and the Iranian presence. That is in northern Syria. But we made clear to the Russians that we have no intention of abandoning our ability to defend our interests. And I suggest that no one test us.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin sought to calm Israeli concerns over the deployment of Russian soldiers in Syria, telling visiting Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu his forces would act "responsibly," and noting the Syrian regime was in not fit state to attack Israel.
Netanyahu was accompanied on his trip to Moscow last week by his army and intelligence chiefs, in a rare step for an overseas visit. Netanyahu said he was determined to stop arms deliveries to the Hezbollah terrorist group that has been aiding Assad forces, and accused Syria's army and Iran of trying to create a "second front" against Israel.
Putin for his part said Russia's actions in the Middle East "always were and will be very responsible," and downplayed the threat by Syrian forces to Israel.
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But this is the very test that little triangle-shaped us has been trying hard to avoid since 1948. Direct Russian involvement in our quarrels with our neighbor is very very very bad. The Russians are no longer what they once were. And we are no longer as sparsely armed as we once were. But even so, Russia at its weakest is many times over stronger than Israel at its strongest, except for the G-d thing that we seem to have going for us.
Russian signal interception based in central Syria would eliminate the element of surprise from any aerial attack into Iran.
No, if they go they'll be total EMCON and very low.
And probably through Saudi airspace with a friendly wave from Riyadh.
The Israelis also have other means of delivering what needs doing in Iran, if necessary. Not to worry too much about any Russian radar, though of course the need for coordination is why Bibi and his IDF honchos rushed off to meet with the Russians....to avoid any unnecessary or accidental conflicts given the congestion of different forces (with differing assignments) in such a small area.
What would Russia do that would ‘test’ Israel?
I would be a lot more worried about a radical Islamist state on your borders than Russia.
ps: coordination with Russia is important... and what of the Chinese forces ??? not sure.........of that...........
....and what about the USA forces under their current political ‘command’...
and the Brits and French are bombing Syria too...
the place is getting awfully crowded with all kinds of military... and terrorist...forces
Syrua does not look like a promising vacation resort right now...
Israel, unlike Obamastan, stands up for itself.
ps: coordination with Russia is important... and what of the Chinese forces ??? not sure.........of that...........
....and what about the USA forces under their current political ‘command’... these seem to be the Wild Card everywhere in the region just now....????????
and the Brits and French are bombing Syria too...
the place is getting awfully crowded with all kinds of military... and terrorist...forces
Syrua does not look like a promising vacation resort right now...
In the local area, Israel is far, far stronger than Russia. All that Russia could do to Israel if push came to shove would be to nuke them - there are no other significant forces close by. Oh, and such wouldn’t go unanswered, so it is highly unlikely. Russia is definitely NOT the Soviet Union in terms of sheer numbers and strategic reach for conventional forces.
Truth be told, the chances of an altercation are pretty low - so long as the Russkies stick to attacking Syrian enemies of Assad.
What prospects are there for any successful mission, when it requires trusting Saudis and Russians?
From Rapture Ready Terry James article:
Is This Gog-Magog?
Zola Levitt and I were talking privately, and Zola was thoroughly exercised about the topic of replacement theology. Some mainline denominations were beginning at the time to adopt the rising theological position termed “progressive dispensationalism.” The “doctrine” put forward that Christ’s throne had been transferred to Heaven with the Lord’s sitting down at the right hand of His Father. Therefore, the Davidic throne (throne of King David,) was also transferred from an earthly throne to Heaven. This meant, according to the progressive dispensationalists, that Israel had, in effect, been replaced in matters involving God’s promises to the nation.
This was not much different than pure replacement theology, and Zola was about to address, as I recall, the Pre-Trib Research Center group at Dallas that December on this topic. Such once-conservative seminaries as Moody and Dallas Theological had begun to go strongly toward the progressive dispensationalist viewpoint.
Zola, as anyone who knew him will attest, was passionate like few others about Israel and God’s dealing with the Jews. I have never seen him quite so animated as during that conversation somewhere around the turn of the century, as I recall. He said that he and Dr. J. Vernon McGee had once “gotten into it” on a television program over whether Israel was back in the Middle East for fulfillment of prophecy. Dr. McGee held that while it was interesting that Israel had its nation restored after more than 1,900 years in its geographical homeland, he didn’t believe this meant that Israel was necessarily there for the final time. They could yet be put out of the land and return again at a later date.
This, of course, was like throwing a glass of gasoline on a raging fire. Zola said they really got crosswise. Zola held that Israel was there for the final time—for the wind-up of this dispensation (Age of Grace) and into the Tribulation. I told him that Dr. McGee knew the truth now, his having gone to be with the Lord at age 84 in 1988. Zola’s only comment was: “Well, I would hope so...”.
Boy! Would old Dr. McGee have done a 180 on his view of the situation, if he could suddenly be shown developments since getting his—as Zola would later say of his own impending going to be with the Lord—promotion to that magnificent realm. As a matter of fact, I sometimes have wondered if they have not again had their conversation, with both now being in complete agreement on the veracity of God’s Word in regard to His promises to His chosen people.
Every day that passes brings into focus that truth. Israel is like a laser pointer indicating with pinpoint precision that these must indeed be the closing days of this Church Age. Stage-setting for fulfillment of Bible prophecy, as we have pointed out many times, literally fills today’s geopolitical, socioeconomic and religious landscape. Culture and society aren’t just headed toward the cesspool—we have arrived in the septic tank.
The world’s economy is poised to implode, with those in charge of the Fed (Federal Reserve Bank) not knowing which way to turn. to raise interest rates will bring the world’s economy crashing down. To not raise interest rates means that dynamic exigencies as part of the intricately linked world monetary system will heat up even further, making the ultimate crash far worse than any in history when it happens.
The pope is traversing the world apparently spouting strange doctrinal changes in his Catholic system and sticking his papal nose in every free nation’s business. He seems to me in cahoots with the Marxist ideology espoused by those who are said to have mentored the current U.S. president.
Russia looks to be making alliances that will one day -perhaps sooner rather than later—form a coalition like that forewarned by the prophet Ezekiel in his Gog-Magog prophecy. Iran occupies the geographical area of ancient Persia. This Israel-hating state of satanic rage is Putin’s client-state, as is Syria—these and other nations of the Islamist sort prophetically destined to be part of a horrendous end-times event.
Specifically, we must ask whether the most recent movement by Vladimir Putin might be, in fact, the actual staging for this great conflict of Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39.
Those who hold to the likelihood that a Psalm 83 war will precede the Gog-Magog attack will say this cannot be the time of that great Ezekiel 38-39 conflict. I continue to respectfully disagree with the proposition that such an inner ring of nations as given in what I believe to be an Imprecatory prayer by God’s chosen nation in Psalm 83 indicates a separate military action. I continue to believe that the prayer offered in Psalm 83 will be answered powerfully and unequivocally by the God of Heaven with the all but total annihilation of the combined Gog-Magog forces of all surrounding nations who come against Israel.
That Russia has inserted itself into the Middle East in ways that trouble America’s top military generals goes without saying. The Russians have said they won’t hesitate to send a large contingent of ground troops into Syria if the request is made by the Syrian regime.
The AP reported September 17 that Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem said Damascus wouldn’t hesitate to ask for Russian troops if needed. At the same time he denied that Russian combat troops were already fighting in Syria. Proof continues to accumulate that the Russians are moving in to stay in the region. Many military and other intelligence officials are asking in television appearances what the build-up means. Ezekiel, we remember, said some would be asking the same question as the Gog-Magog invasion began to take shape.
One respected intelligence advisory writes the following.
The Russian military deployment to the Bassel al Assad air base in Latakia, Syria, is continuing at a rapid tempo, Stratfor can confirm. Previous imagery of the airfield, taken Sept. 4, showed significant engineering works underway. New imagery from Sept. 15, provided by our partners at All Source Analysis, reveals the completion of several large concrete aprons that were previously under construction. A large amount of Russian military equipment has also arrived at the airfield. A battalion-sized Russian contingent now appears to be located at the base, along with artillery and attack helicopter support. Several large Russian transport aircraft are also visible on the runway and the nearby ramps. (Stratfor, “Russia fortifies its position in Syria,” September 17, 2015)
With American fighter jets and other military assets in the same general area, there is growing concern that an incident of dangerous sort could happen whether by accident or by instigation. The Russian and American officials have been shown to be engaging in meetings over developments in the war-torn region.
Are we seeing the beginning of a Russian build-up for the fulfillment of the Gog-Magog assault?
I’m of the opinion that this is indeed a point in the staging for that prophesied war. Just what point is anyone’s guess.
My own thinking is that the Gog-Magog assault will take place some time after the Rapture of the Church. This is because this will be a world-shaking, cataclysmic event. Many other lands besides just this region will be affected. This war, in my view, will take the world out of the business-as-usual state that Jesus prophesied will be prevalent at the time He next intervenes into human history in a catastrophic way. Judgment will fall, the Lord said, that very day, just as in the days of Noah and the days of Lot (again read Matthew 24:36-42 and Luke 17: 26-30).
We see developing a sure signal that the Tribulation period is fast approaching. It it time for believers to work hard to bring as many of the lost into God’s family as possible. At the same time, we must remember to lift up our heads and keep looking up!
Putin said that Israel must not respond to any attack by Iranian forces on the Golan. The Iranian are intent on setting up forward positions on the heights - one Iranian general was killed several months ago in this process.
‘Errant’ Syrian arty shells landed on the Israeli side of the Golan and Israel responded by rocketing the Syrian Arty base. Putin did not like that interference in his Syrian plans - whatever they are. Putin seems to think a major Iranian military presence on the Golan Syrian side is a desirable objective - Israel disagrees.
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“Putin said that Israel must not respond to any attack by Iranian forces on the Golan.”
I don’t believe Putin ever said this to Bibi. Proof please.
"Accidentally" violating Israel's borders, "mistakenly" targeting Israeli assets, "coincidentally" getting between Israel and enemies that she's pursuing...you know, "innocent mistakes" like those. Also, violating Israel's stated red line of giving advanced antiaircraft weapons to Hizballah and the like.
Radical Islamists have been with us for a long time. They are predictable and defeatable because they are predictable. Have a provocateur get them into a lather and have them charge precipitously at a well-defended border, and start mowing them down. When it occurs to them that Allah is not with them at the moment, they will run scared s@#$ with their tails between their legs, and that’ll be that until the next time.
Russia, however, is not so easily dealt with. They have a serious military, not only well equipped but well disciplined and led by real generals, not frothing-at-the-mouth Imams. If they are determined to cook our goose, we had better watch out.
Slim to nil.
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