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Donald Trump's wild claim: Unemployment is 42%
CNN Money ^ | September 28, 2015 | Heather Long

Posted on 09/28/2015 5:47:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Fiddlstix

LOL.....true ;-)


21 posted on 09/28/2015 6:02:16 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Vendome

Yep, the labor participation is awful....but a lot of folks not working are retired, living off investments, ss, etc. The 5% is absurd from the government, but the 42% is based on a misunderstanding of what labor participation rate means.


22 posted on 09/28/2015 6:02:32 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: SamAdams76
BTTT

You are 100% correct! You said:

I just got done watching the entire event this morning when Trump announced his Tax Reform plan and took Q&A.

Trump did say that the 5-6% being touted by the government was a joke (and I think we all agree there). Trump said that he thought it was closer to 20%.

So Trump said it was more around 20% - not 40%!

23 posted on 09/28/2015 6:04:36 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: SamAdams76

I just watched it too and I agree with you. The baked and cooked low unemployment numbers they trot out are pure bs! Trump has a common sense approach. It is so refreshing! Win Trump Win!


24 posted on 09/28/2015 6:06:01 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every unemployed person who heard him mention a possible 42% figure said to themselves “I believe it!”

It’s the stupid 5.1% number that they don’t believe.


25 posted on 09/28/2015 6:11:59 PM PDT by Bobalu (See my freep page for political images.)
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To: LibWhacker

Although pushing 70, I am technically employable, but living on ss, a small pension, and my dh. Neither of us wants to contribute any more than unavoidable to the current rgm. Given a more encouraging dc set, things could change.


26 posted on 09/28/2015 6:12:48 PM PDT by Bethaneidh
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To: dp0622
Unemployment is at 5.1 percent and HOW MANY people are on food stamps? welfare? housing assistance?

should be slashed dramatically compared to 6 years ago...

It's all a bunch of lies.


27 posted on 09/28/2015 6:15:46 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Quibbling. Lead pipe cinch the REAL unemployment figure is a lot closer to 42% than it is to 5%.


28 posted on 09/28/2015 6:17:11 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Karl Spooner
We are only 20 trillion is debt. What could possibly be wrong?

My understanding is that we have 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities on top of that 20 trillion in acknowledged debt.

29 posted on 09/28/2015 6:17:39 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Those charts are the stuff of nightmares!!


30 posted on 09/28/2015 6:18:44 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Thank you for referencing that article 2ndDivisionVet. As usual, please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"On Monday, he claimed he'd seen numbers that show America's real unemployment rate is as high as 42%."

The article’s title doesn’t necessarily compliment Trump’s claim.

31 posted on 09/28/2015 6:19:36 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yeap. That is the way it works in Illinois too.


32 posted on 09/28/2015 6:22:14 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump said it’s around 25% or thereabouts on CNN tonight.

The real unemployment rate is certainly not 5.1%.


33 posted on 09/28/2015 6:23:52 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Amendment10

There are also only 11 million illegals...yeah that’s the ticket, 11 million, and not one more.


34 posted on 09/28/2015 6:24:31 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

42% is extreme and rhetorical - even if Stockmans explanation is, well, some sort of explanation.
5.1% is simply misleading. This works only as a tracking number vs recent history, and the metric is obsolete as there has been a big change in labor force participation. This change in labor force participation makes this old unemployment metric entirely useless as it is not comparable with the situation in, say, 2000 or 2006.
Conversely, CNN Money is also being deliberately disingenuous here -
“There’s a valid, but different, conversation to have about the trend that more and more American adults aren’t working. It was expected that the number of American adults in the workforce would decline as more Baby Boomers reached retirement age.”
This is entirely false, and it is well known to be false by every expert on the labor force. The decline in labor force participation skews young, not old. There has been no decline in over-55 labor force participation, and whatever mook they dragged in knows that very well.


35 posted on 09/28/2015 6:24:55 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, if you count government “workers”, that’s probably a pretty accurate number...


36 posted on 09/28/2015 6:31:17 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Over 55 labor Force participation
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LNS11324230
No change during the recession.

25-54
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LNU01300060
Still declining ! What recovery ? The peak was @ 1999-2000 and never got back to that. Note, that this kept rising through multiple recessions - women working explains most of that.

16-24
http://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/LNS11324887Q;jsessionid=683DE9B4C714291A8102BA764782CAD5.tc_instance6
This all is not a recent phenomenon, particularly the fall in youth employment, but the latest recession has been particularly bad and there is no evidence of a recovery.
Obama is not entirely to blame, there are things going on here that predate him, but he hasn’t helped.


37 posted on 09/28/2015 6:38:18 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Karl Spooner
Yeap. That is the way it works in Illinois too.

This is what happens when you let someone govern according to the Chicago Mafia. I mistakenly assumed back in 2008 that Obama was going to get his @$$ in a ringer for trying that Chicago criminal crap on the Federal level.

I simply didn't realize how much in the tank the media are, and how willing they were to turn a blind eye to the criminality of their Chocolate dildo.

When this regime is over, there needs to be enacted laws which destroy this current incestuous relationship between Media and government. Everyone that enabled this bastard needs to end up in prison.

38 posted on 09/28/2015 6:40:04 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: dp0622
Those charts are the stuff of nightmares!!

That is what the last seven years have been.

39 posted on 09/28/2015 6:40:52 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They put out the # they want you to see


40 posted on 09/28/2015 6:48:23 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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