Pope Francis' Speech To Congress Didn't Mention Abortion, Gay Marriage By Name

Huffington Post ^ | 09/24/2015 | Jaweed Kaleem

[right way right]

A Communist Pope is as bad as a Muslim President.

[jacknhoo]

And, boy-o-boy, it certainly is driving the Liberals crazy...especially the liberals of religion who deny the Catholic church is the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic church.

Its sad to watch them as the seek in every way for the smallest justification that their liberal stance on Christianity be proven correct not by their thousand upon thousands of strayed errant churches or by their billions upon billions errant “personal” interpretations of scripture and dimwitted beliefs concocted in their own minds by their own spirits, but by none other than the Catholic Church’s authority itself. Where’s their authority?

And what’s truly promising at the same time is the fact that they’re still so insecure in their own stances...in their own half-baked doctrines, that the main focus of their so called “personal” relationship with Jesus is based on what the Pope of the Catholic church says and does, and not on what they say and do and believe. So, there is still promise and hope that others witnessing their weakness and floundering will see it for what it is and turn to the true authority on earth.

[ealgeone]

History is replete with "bad" popes (notably those from the 15th and 16th century) who used the papacy as an instrument to acquire power and wealth for themselves and their families; however, they DID NOT teach dogmatic error.

If they were espousing the false narrative of the catholic Mary they were.

If they were espousing you can lose your salvation they were.

[wagglebee]

JPII spent his whole life FIGHTING COMMUNISTS.

Now we have a communist as a pope.

Excellent observation!

[Lucky9teen]

Pope Francis’ Speech To Congress Didn’t Mention Abortion, Gay Marriage By Name

Never mind that, as the biggest “Christian Leader” in the World, you’d think he’d mention Jesus Christ, at least once. But, nope.

[xzins]

Just out of curiosity, did JPII appoint Francis as a bishop? If so, then someone misguided him badly. How does that information come to a pope on the best people to appoint?

[catfish1957]

Yep. Final Score ~ Marxist Ideas 1. Jesus 0

[xzins]

Yes, there is that.

[Lucky9teen]

And is it me, or did anyone listening to him speak, expect him to say "It's a-me, Mario!"?

I have to say, the few clips I've seen of him speaking, remind me of another progressive with an annoying whiny, voice, that drones on and on....Harry Reid.



Meanwhile, I say Dope Francis can take his message and shove it. I've heard about all the progressive bullcrap I can stand from our own government and it pisses me off that a supposed Christian Leader, comes to OUR country, blathering on about things that are not relevant to bring souls to Christ, nor are they relevant to what's going on in the world.

Christians, Jews, Catholics all over the world are being slaug...htered. Radical Islam is on the march, stomping out those who don't convert. Babies are being murdered by the millions. Religious Freedom is under attack. And does he speak to these important things? No. His priority is Climate Change, Environmentalism, Wealth Re-Distribution. He lives in the most secure city with the strongest immigration policy and he has the nerve to tell America, the place that takes in more immigrants than any other country in the world, and does more to help other countries and citizens all over the world, MORE than any other country in the world, that we need to do more and take in more immigrants??

Screw you Dope Francis. You and your little Dope mobile too.

[wagglebee]

Yes, he was appointed as a bishop and later a cardinal by JPII.

Popes rely largely on the advice of others in appointing bishops, and presumably the less "important" a diocese is considered the more attention it is given (though this is just conjecture on my part). However, I would think that popes are much more personally familiar with those who are elevated to cardinal.

Nevertheless, how a person appears is generally not the same as who they really are.

According to rumors, Francis was nearly elected in 2005 and ALL of the cardinals that elected him two years ago were appointed by either JPII or Benedict.

[Borax Queen]

Every Catholic I know, including me, thinks this guy is a Communist. My parents do too, and they escaped from a Communist country. The guy has a very evil, full-of-deception, look when his eyes flash. I try not to watch him at all, but he’s been plastered all over every channel lately. I wouldn’t be surprised to see horns growing out of his head.

[P-Marlowe]

I fear that the Catholic Church has taken one giant step left with the election of this guy to Pope and it isn’t going to stop with global warming, income inequality, corporate greed, and immigration. I see a softening of the moral stands on Homosexuality and abortion on the horizon.

Soon there will be no church of any significance that will not have surrendered to the dark side on those issues.

I liked Benedict. I felt that he stood strong for the Church and church doctrines. I don’t understand why he would have stepped down unless there was a lot of political pressure from the people who elected this guy.

I’m not Catholic, but if I was, the election of this Pope would have shaken my faith to the core.

[ecomcon]

Pretty weak tea.

[ecomcon]

Francis certainly doesn't seem interested in any personal power or wealth, but he has almost certainly embraced the modernism so wonderfully refuted by Pope Piux IX and Pope Saint Pius X.

It is easy to claim disinterest in power and wealth when people do as you say, and you are secure in all things.

[ecomcon]

Jackass of the free world, and apparently the pope wears a dress. Who knew?

Both of them feckless.

[trisham]

What a disaster.

[wagglebee]

As I mentioned yesterday, the Church has had some HORRIBLE popes in the past. The popes around the time of the Reformation were among the most greedy and corrupt men of the era (cardinals then were almost exclusively the sons of wealthy nobles), popes used their office to enrich and empower themselves and their families, the term nepotism comes from popes granting offices and favors to their nephews or even their own sons. Luther's 95 Theses had a lot more merit than many Catholics would like to admit.

But, despite this, popes like Alexander VI and Leo X weren't making dogmatic pronouncements that were inconsistent with Church teachings (Exsurge Domine simply ignored Luther's condemnation of papal corruption).

What we have now is a pope who isn't seeking wealth and secular power, but he IS contradicting centuries of Church teaching, especially the condemnation of modernity and communism that earlier popes made.

I see a softening of the moral stands on Homosexuality and abortion on the horizon.

Soon there will be no church of any significance that will not have surrendered to the dark side on those issues.

The Bible makes it quite clear that things will get VERY BAD in the End.

I liked Benedict. I felt that he stood strong for the Church and church doctrines. I don’t understand why he would have stepped down unless there was a lot of political pressure from the people who elected this guy.

The moment I saw the news that Benedict was resigning I knew that something was horribly wrong.

[trisham]

I don’t see anything good happening in the immediate future. I haven’t wanted to criticize the pope, but it’s reached a point where he seems to be...I’m not sure what.

[wagglebee]

There is one other thing that has been bothering me about the Pope's speech:

The Pope is technically a head of state, but first and foremost he is a RELIGIOUS LEADER and that means that he should be speaking about matters of faith and morals, not matters that are strictly political.

Abortion and homosexuality are moral issues that are clearly condemned in the Bible and, until very recently, condemned by all Christians. Yet the Pope ignored this.

Abject poverty (by this I mean third world people living on pennies a day, not American welfare recipients with 60 inch TVs and luxury SUVs) and hunger are certainly moral issues and Christ made it clear that we are to help these people. However, the Pope failed to mention that much of the world's poverty is caused by political corruption and that much of this corruption comes from regimes that the Pope seems to embrace.

Climate change IS NOT a moral issue, it is a political ploy with no basis in science. Were it to be established that mankind has a role in weather patterns, it MIGHT become a moral issue but would more likely be a scientific issue. Mankind's sinfulness resulted in the Flood, but there was NOTHING that man could do once it came; God used the weather to punish sin, He DID NOT use it to punish technological advancement.

[trisham]

Exactly right!